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Dear all, I just have news that new NIRO will be launching on 3rd week of Sept 2022. The indicative pricing is $169,999 for SX hybrid model. The model should be now waiting for LTA to approve for sale. Seem nicer than previous facelift. Wonder if I should wait for Ioniq 5 to launch or go for this new NIRO. 🤔 I’m stuck in thinking to change hybrid or EV. 😅 what about you guys?

Dear Mycarforum members, We are from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. Refer to Kannan92 post on their terrible experience with Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, we would like to reply to the fellow community here in the forum and Kannan92. We are also aware that from the Google reviewer Sajivani Thanabal and Kannan Vijakumar leave a very BAD review in our company profile. We will reply to the Google review when we claim our account back as we are not active in Google. During our Chinese New Year Celebration on 13/02/24, Customer came to view the car with her husband in the afternoon. They test drive the car during the viewing. In the evening, she came back again with her husband and father-in-law to test drive the car again. After they test drive the car, She want to confirm the purchase of the car and placed a deposit. Yes, we did mention to her that we will touch up the paintwork as agreed. 1) We inform her that we will touch up the painwork when she collects the car. We inform her that the car is serviced by Agent. Last serviced by Agent is October 2023. The car come with Agent warranty till June 2025. As for the loan, Alan have informed her that we will do the loan application under HL Bank at 2.78% interest rate for her as we have loan commission. She agreed before she sign the sales agreement. We also given her a discount of $1300 from the advertised price at the point of sale. 1) 1 week later after she signed the sales agreement, she changed her mind. She wants to do the loan by herself as she claimed that DBS will give her a rebate of $300. We wish to highlight 1) The car is in good working condition. Customer came to test drive the car twice on 13/02/24. The car come with Agent warranty till June 2025. 2) She agreed that Oasis car will submit the loan application as our company get the loan commission. We hope that customer understand that when she wants to place a deposit and sign the sales agreement. It mean that she want to reserve and purchase the car. When both buyer and seller signed the sales agreement, that mean both parties need to follow what is agreed. Oasis Cars Pte Ltd have fulfil what we promised in the sales agreement but she do not want to submit her loan documents for the loan application. We receive an email from Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE) on 28 Feb for her complaint. We have explained and reply the same to CASE. We also extended the deadline to 04 March for our company to submit loan application under DBS for her but she still refused to submit her loan documents. From Google reviewer Kanna Vijakumar, They have purchase a Kia Niro from salesman Gary from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection). I am glad they are happy with their Kia Niro and the exceptional service. Since she is so satisfied with SDAS. I hope customer can check with Gary from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection). If a Customer purchase and signed a sales agreement with Loan for a car from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) After 1 week the customer changed her mind and decided to apply her loan by herself to get the $300 rebate. 1) Do SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) allow without any penalty? 2) Is that any penalty if the customer back out a deal? Oasis cars is a small company registered in 2014. We take in all the cars without any finance for the past 10 years. Because we didn’t borrow any money from the finance company, we do not need to pay any interest. We passed all the savings to our customer. It also explained why we can do immediate transfer of ownership when customer come to collect their car. If customer is worry about the condition of the car, she can request to send to Agent for an inspection. Collection of the car and transfer of ownership can also be done in Agent showroom after verify all the issue. Oasis cars Pte Ltd do not have any hidden costs or charge her any admin fee. We rely on the small profit on the cars, loan commission, insurance commission to pay our employee salaries and overhead. It is very common that the used cars dealers in Singapore submit the loan application for customer to earn the commission. For humanity and reason, we hope customer can be fair to Alan. If customer want to changed her mind and decide to change from Peugeot 3008 to Kia Niro. Please do not try to break other salesman rice bowl. To reserve a car for customer, we need to pay for the carpark and depreciation of a vehicle. $2000 deposit is barely enough to cover for the reservation. Some company may even sue the customer if he/she break a contract. SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) is a very good company and we hope that you can continue support them for your future purchase of vehicle. Hope for everyone kind understanding. Thank you very much. Oasis Cars Pte Ltd

Wonder what the possible pricing will be... Launching during next month's car show... http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=14442 If it is about Vezel or Qashqai pricing... Maybe can sell like hot cakes...?

Hello People, can I ask those who have a KIA NIRO HYBRID or KIA cars with similar dashboard, where and how do you mount your phone onto Magsafe phone holder/charger centrally around the dashboard so as to avoid over heating(making use of cool air from aircon vents), as opposed to the usual way of mounting near to A pillar? have seen those holders with air con vent clips but are they secure when car is moving. Also saw some with design for clipping onto or suction to rear of dashboard. Does phoen stay cool?

Consumer Reports’ New Annual Auto Reliability Data Reveals Safest Bets and Riskiest Choices Among New Vehicles Lexus achieves top spot among automakers in auto reliability brand ranking with Mazda, Toyota, close behind. Buick continues as the most reliable domestic brand--and the only one in top 10. https://www.consumerreports.org/media-room/press-releases/2021/11/consumer-reports-new-annual-auto-reliability-data-reveals-safest-bets-and-riskiest-choices-among-new-vehicles/ Release date 11/18/2021. YONKERS, NY — Eight of the top ten most reliable brands are from Asia, and only one--Buick--is a domestic, according to the latest Annual Auto Reliability data from Consumer Reports (CR), the nonprofit research, testing, and consumer advocacy organization. But there were some positive indicators for the domestics, too, as American models topped seven vehicle categories--an unusually strong showing. The 2021 Auto Reliability Report is based on data collected from CR members about their experiences with more than 300,000 vehicles in the annual surveys. The survey findings were announced at an online news conference before the Detroit-based Automotive Press Association today. Owners reported everything from transmissions needing replacement after as little as 5,000 miles to display screens that required hardware replacement and misaligned tailgates and doors. "With new-car prices at all-time highs and a shortage of vehicles on dealers’ lots, it’s more important than ever to consider reliability when you invest in something new,” said Jake Fisher, senior director of auto testing at Consumer Reports. “Buying a reliable vehicle can help ensure that you’ll be able to hit the road when you need to, and not worry about getting stuck waiting on parts for repairs.” Other highlights from CR’s influential annual report include the following: Despite their complexity, hybrids and plug-in vehicles are among the most reliable models. High-end electric-powered Sport Utility Vehicles are among the least reliable vehicles, but NOT because of their relatively simple powertrains. Complex electronics are their Achilles Heel, at least for now. Some Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, and Toyota models continue to have problems due to technologically advanced, and complex, transmissions. CR’s auto statisticians calculate reliability ratings for every major mainstream car, minivan, SUV, and truck on the market, even ones that are brand-new and redesigned for 2021. To do so, the team analyzes annual CR member surveys data on a model’s reliability history, calculating the brand’s overall reliability and, if applicable, the reliability of models that use some of the same components. Consumer Reports’ analysis of new-car reliability is a key element of CR’s Overall Score, which is a holistic measure of a vehicle’s quality designed to make it easy for consumers to quickly find the best cars, SUVs, and trucks to suit their needs. The Overall Score also includes road-test performance, owner satisfaction survey results, whether a vehicle comes with key active safety systems, and results from crash tests, if applicable. “The pandemic is creating a scramble for consumers as they face a reduced supply of new cars and significantly higher prices. That's why it's more important than ever that people get trusted help finding safe, secure, and reliable vehicles,” said Marta Tellado, President and CEO of Consumer Reports. “Our annual reliability reports, combined with our comprehensive auto testing, can empower consumers with the trusted information to make better purchases and navigate this unusually difficult marketplace.” Eight of the 10 Top Brands are from Asia Of the top ten most reliable automakers, eight are headquartered in Asia, with Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota in the top three spots respectively. Historically, Lexus and Toyota have regularly been at the top of CR’s brand rankings for reliability. That’s an especially noteworthy accomplishment for Toyota, which has a wide array of different nameplates in the survey--13 in all. Mazda, which was the top brand overall last year, falls to second place. Mazda’s above average overall performance was marred by the Mazda3 small car, which has average predicted reliability due to problems with its climate system and in-car electronics issues. Mazda has a conservative design approach with shared platforms and similar components, which helps it to produce reliable vehicles overall. Mazda has also stuck with its dependable six-speed automatic transmission while other automakers use more complex ones with eight or nine ratios or continuously variable transmissions, some of which have proven troublesome. All Lexus models score average or better for reliability in CR’s report. The Lexus GX SUV is the most reliable new vehicle overall this year; owners reported no problems for the three model years that CR analyzed in the brand rankings. The UX is Lexus' only average model. Third-ranking Toyota has only one model scoring below average, the Corolla Hatchback; CR’s members reported issues that required a transmission replacement or rebuild. The RAV4 remains average mostly because of problems filling the fuel tank on some versions. The Tacoma and the redesigned-for-2021 Sienna are both also average; the Sienna showed some power equipment problems. Both the RAV4 Prime and Venza, new for 2021, are well above average. Infiniti ranks fourth overall, an admirable improvement of six spots this year. The Q50 sedan remains impressive and the troublesome QX50 SUV improved to average. Buick is the most reliable domestic brand, coming in at fifth place overall. The Encore and redesigned Envision are both well-above average, and the Encore GX is above average. Surprisingly, the Enclave drops to below average, with transmission, drive system, and blank in-car electronics screen issues. High Rankings for Several Domestic Models Mark Signs of Improvement for U.S. Manufacturers Models from five domestic brands, Buick, Chevrolet, GMC, Chrysler, and Ford, take the top spots in seven categories--an unusually strong showing. They include: Buick Envision (Luxury Compact SUVs) Chevrolet Trailblazer (Subcompact SUVs) Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD and its twin the GMC Sierra 2500HD (Full-sized Pickups) Chrysler 300 (Midsized/Large Cars) Ford Bronco Sport (Compact SUVs) Ford Mustang Mach-E (Electric SUVs) Ford Ranger (Midsized Pickups) CR’s data also shows that hybrids and plug-in vehicles are among the most reliable models even though they have unusually complicated drivetrains. These vehicles include the Honda Insight, Kia Niro and the Toyota Prius, Prius Prime, RAV4 Prime, and Venza. One likely reason for their reliability is that most of these are well-established models that haven’t seen radical changes over the years. Even the new-for-2021 Venza uses a tried-and-true powertrain. The analysis also shows that fully-electric SUVs are among the least reliable vehicles. They include the Tesla Model X and Y, Audi E-Tron and Volkswagen ID.4. All have a high rate of problems in areas other than the electric powertrain. Some of these problems include climate controls, in-car electronics, and power equipment. Honda Ranks Sixth in Brand Rankings Honda ranks sixth among brands, down one from last year, with the Insight scoring well-above average. The CR-V, Accord, and Ridgeline score above average and the remaining models are all average. Both the Passport and Odyssey have improved, though owners still report issues with the infotainment system freezing and power equipment. Some Odyssey owners also report problems with the sliding doors. Subaru comes in seventh overall. The Crosstrek is well-above average, and the Legacy, Impreza, and Forester are above average. However, the Ascent still has subpar reliability. Acura's rank is eighth overall. The TLX has exhibited impressive reliability in its first year after a redesign, and the redesigned 2022 MDX has above average first-year reliability after below-average reliability with its previous generation. The RDX improves from below average to average, though it still has ongoing issues with brakes, power equipment, and in-car electronics with the display screen freezing and needing hardware replacement, and software updates failing. Nissan improves this year, moving up to ninth place--mostly because of older models including the Rogue Sport, Murano, and Leaf, which show impressive reliability. Mini rounds out the top 10, making it the highest-ranked European automaker this year. Mini only has two models in the survey, the Cooper Countryman and Cooper/Clubman, and jumps 13 places in the standing. The jump is mainly attributed to its Cooper Countryman's outstanding reliability. Hyundai falls four positions this year to rank eleventh. The redesigned Tucson is well-above average, and the Sonata and Palisade are also above average. The Kona Electric and freshened Santa Fe are below average, with, respectively, battery pack and electric drive motor problems, and transmission and power equipment issues. Kia drops three to 19th place this year, with transmissions being the brand's weak spot. The eight-speed dual clutch transmission that is used with the turbo engine in the redesigned Sorento is problematic. Owners of the Soul, Seltos, and Forte report a problem-prone CVT that could require replacement. The Niro Electric improved and the Telluride remains outstanding. Genesis’ reliability is suffering as the brand rapidly grows with new models. While the G70 has improved to average, the new GV80 SUV scores well-below average due to infotainment screen and drive system problems. Four Domestic Brands are Midpack Domestic brands are midpack or below--Chrysler at 12th, Chevrolet at 14, Cadillac at 16th, and Ford at 18th. Jeep, Tesla, and Lincoln took the three bottom ranks. Chrysler has just two vehicles in the survey--the 300, which has outstanding reliability, and the Pacifica minivan, which is well-below average due to issues including the transmission and sliding doors. Chevrolet models spread across almost the entire range of CR’s reliability scale--some excellent and some subpar. The new Trailblazer SUV and the Trax are both excellent. After years of respectable reliability, the Bolt EV dropped to below average, due to battery problems and electric drive failures, among other issues. The Silverado 2500HD and Blazer are above average. Others, including the Corvette and redesigned Tahoe, are well-below average. GMC's rank dropped because of similar problems as twin models from Chevrolet. The Sierra 1500, Yukon, and Canyon are all below- or well-below average. GMC’s only above-average vehicle was the Sierra 2500HD. Cadillac improved six spots this year, helped by the reliable XT5 SUV. The XT6 and XT4 are below- and well-below average, respectively. Ford is showing improvement this year, with the new Bronco Sport, Mustang Mach-E, and Ranger all at the top of their classes for reliability. But the redesigned F-150 scored below average, as did the Escape. Both the Mustang and the Explorer are well-below average. Ram drops the most in CR’s brand ranking this year, sliding twelve spots to 21st. While the Ram 2500 and 1500 are both average, the 1500 Classic (the previous generation 1500) has well-below average reliability marked by problems with brakes, emissions systems, engine, and power equipment. Jeep ranks 26 and among the bottom three brands. The company’s most reliable model last year, the Gladiator, fell below average. The Cherokee and Wrangler are both below average. The Wrangler has issues with the drive system, in-car electronics, and, like the similar Gladiator, with the steering and suspension. The Cherokee has in-car electronics and some transmission issues. Tesla, with four models in the survey, is unchanged at second from last. While Tesla’s Model 3 has average reliability, the Model Y still has body hardware issues with the tailgate and door alignment, paint defects, and multiple other problems. The Model X and Model S both have body hardware, climate system, and in-car electronics problems. All Lincoln models have below-average reliability, with the Corsair and Aviator being well-below average. They, along with the Nautilus, have transmission, in-car electronics and power equipment problems. Mixed Bag for European Models Porsche ranks midpack at 13, down two from last year. The Cayenne and Macan have average and above-average reliability. Audi is unchanged at 15th. The A4 and A5 remain above average, and are joined by the A6 and Q5. The Q7 is average, but the Q3 has below-average reliability. The Q8 and E-Tron, both well-below average, continue to have drive system and power equipment issues. BMW is in 17th, down four. The X5, 3 Series, 5 Series, and X3 all have average reliability, but the redesigned 4 Series has subpar reliability due to power equipment problems. Volvo is 20th overall, down one. The XC90 continues to score well-below average, mostly due to issues with brakes, climate system, and body hardware. The S60 dropped to below average this year also because of multiple issues. The XC40 is average and the XC60 is now above average. Mercedes-Benz is in 23rd, down two from last year. The only reliable model is the GLC. The E-Class fell to below average and the GLE remains well-below average, with numerous power equipment, climate system, in-car electronics, and some engine problems. Volkswagen is at 24th overall, up 1 from last year. While the Atlas and Jetta improved to average reliability, the Tiguan and the new ID.4 EV are both subpar. For more information on CR’s 2021 #CRCarReliability findings, visit CR.org/reliability or follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @consumereports. About Consumer Reports Annual Auto Reliability Surveys The latest Consumer Reports Annual Auto Reliability Surveys, gathered information from the organization's members on more than 300,000 vehicles from model years 2000 to 2021. Members filled out online surveys in the spring and summer of 2021. CR’s reliability predictions are based on overall reliability for the past three model years, provided the vehicle has not been redesigned. One or two years of data will be used if the model was redesigned in 2021 or 2020. CR bases its reliability analysis on data gathered from CR members each year about problems they had with their vehicles in the past 12 months. CR’s team of statisticians and survey researchers, then analyzed trouble areas and created an overall reliability score for each model and year. Serious problem areas that can lead to expensive repairs are more heavily weighted. More information can be found at www.CR.org.

Both also not available, Stonic and K3 Cerato are remove from SG market. The cheapest is now 1.6L Niro Hybrid also $166K to the most expensive being the EV9. Time have change, now $150K - $180K only get B&B car, last time before Covid can get flagship model. I am waiting for 1.6L Kia Sportage Hybrid to come SG but after 3 years nothing yet and Korea already facelift in 2024.

Niro EX and SX owners, so far how the DCT dry clutch holding up?

I really like their 2024 KIA Sportage 1.6L hybrid, but it never come Singapore at all. My dad still got the old mindset in 2024 that Korean car like KIA and Hyundai more difficult to maintain and not much resell value when selling perhaps 6-7 years time later compare to Toyota as he drove Honda and Toyota throughout his life. I told him downgrade the car as he tiring soon no need to drive such a big car with high installment and road tax. So I recommend him KIA NIRO Hybrid SX or Hyundai Avante Hybrid but of course cannot compare with current PI 2.0NA Toyota Harrier SUV that we had now. He never even test drive these Korean brand before, die die don’t want these 2 Korean brand then say Conti expensive + high maintenance fee and he dislike Mazda. Not much choice left, I told him then you go test drive the 2024 1.6L facelift Toyota Corolla Altis which also around $150K as we looking for new car these few months as the new 2.5L Harrier Hybrid cost $235K, wth $235K for a Toyota is really sucks.

Planning to buy a used Niro with 3.5 years left (2017). Stated miles is around 120k km. Anything I should take note of? Tried to ask C&C for latest servicing and warranty records but they are unable to provide it at all. Really like the feel to drive it and the FC is good because I drive a lot daily. Most importantly I'm worried about potential hybrid battery failure. Not sure if anyone can share their experience on battery failure. Thanks in advance!

Planning to buy a used Niro with 3.5 years left. Stated miles is around 120k km. Anything I should take note of? Tried to ask C&C for latest servicing and warranty records but they are unable to provide it at all. Really like the feel to drive it and the FC is good because I drive a lot daily. Most importantly I'm worried about potential hybrid battery failure. Not sure if anyone can share their experience on battery failure. Thanks in advance!

Anyone waiting to collect their new niro hybrid? How long is the waiting time?

Was deciding between Kona, Niro and Honda HRV and went with the new Kona. It's taller than Niro, has more boot space and more safety features with the base GL model. Also prefer the Kona look over Niro, wife also the same. Been driving for a couple of weeks averaging 23km/l on eco mode, very quiet and comfortable. My previous car was a 2008 Suzuki swift sport manual so this car is a new experience for me and so far so good, the after sales is pleasant as well (had a cosmetic defect which they rectified in a few hours I sent in).

Niro's interior definitely look better and classy than kona. Kona has some fake speaker lookalike portion beside the meter display My vote will still go to Kona as the torque for Niro is really low (almost half of kona)

I think it is comparable with NIRO, but if you read the thread abt NIRO, I think KMC has better after sales services. Anyway Kia is the "child" of Hyundai, so all the goodies will go to Kia first. This is my 3rd Hyundai... hahaha... so ya...

U can call some ADs and check for those popular bnb models like sienta, altis, niro etc to verify yrself. My guess majority bought 6-8NG packages during Motorshow else why many bids and yet coe drop.

For Vantage's Peugeot e-2008, it has a lower servicing cost over 10 years vs the petrol 2008. For C&C's KIA Niro EV, it has a higher servicing cost over 10 years vs the hybrid Niro. May I know what kind of servicing C&C is doing to their KIA Niro EV? 😅

Actually i thought Kia Niro cabin space feels bigger than Kona. Kona does look abit bigger outside.

Kona exterior design still not as ugly as ioniq 6 la. I find ioniq design looks weird. Not doubts Niro looks nicer as compared with hyundai.

I superficial one. I just find Niro have a nicer look. hahahaha.

@kobayashiGT Not too sure about the specs, but Kona definitely feels much more spacious. Rear seats were also alot more comfortable for my wife, which was a determining factor. Test drove both in a day and generally prefer Kona. the base model for Kona also had more stuff as compared to niro base model. Another factor was the sales service at Kia, so bad when i went down recently. no time for you and one of them gave a very bad impression but maybe because busy. Hyundai, though busy at least smile smile. For info, i drove a kia cerato previously and was good nonetheless (servicing etc).

Is the KONA comparable with Niro?

So weird sgcarmart is showing the price Ioniq 5 - catA and B no decrease in price Niro EX - Decrease by 5k Niro Hybrid (Highest Trim) - Increase by 6k (?? dun even y increase) All other cat A decrease by 2-5K When COE increase, all increase per COE but when decrease only a percentage BYD Atto 3 - all decrease per coe

Yap cannot sell anyway. They focus on Niro hybrid/EV

In the early hours yesterday morning, right when many of us would have been waking up and getting ready to go to work, those on the Kranji Expressway were thrown into a panic when this accident occurred: How did it happen? The scenario went like this: the motorcyclist was just going straight ahead. At the far left, some other cars were shifting lanes, moving to the right: Disaster strikes. Unfortunately, the Kia Niro (immediate closest) to the motorcyclist made a rash and foolish decision--- to swerve abruptly. This gave the motorcyclist about approximately a second to react, which wasn't enough, of course. Cue the imminent collision. It didn't stop there, as the force of the sideswipe was strong enough to propel the motorcyclist into the flank of another car ahead; its second collision. The tumble onto the hard tar road was inevitable: Oh my god! Our hearts dropped when seeing this. Thankfully, help arrives. Upon seeing the accident that had just occurred, Good Samaritans also on the road slowed down, or stopped their vehicles to offer assistance. The motorcyclists had slowed down to help a brother in need. The one closest to the fallen rider was also seen trying to lift the heavy motorcycle off of him. Divided opinions. There was an outpour of differing opinions online. Some commentators deduced that the cars were ultimately at fault. Some shared the same sentiment, but with a slightly different take: But it was agreed that the sudden lane change far left had caused the crashes. Yes, we think so too. There were also some less-than-helpful comments, bordering on nasty: Including this Come on man. Was not the biker's fault that he got into an accident. Not cool. Hasty driving has consequences. It is hard to pinpoint and assign fault exactly, but we can say that the abrupt lane change definitely was the direct cause of the motorcyclist collision happening. It is depressing and unfortunate to see the spate of motorcycle accidents as of late, especially the recent Simei lorry incident that sadly claimed the life of another motorcyclist (Rest in peace). We urge all our readers to always stay vigilant and safe on the roads, and we hope this motorcyclist gets better soon. ========= Be the first to get the latest road/ COE news and get first dibs on exclusive promos and giveaways in our Telegram SGCM Community. Join us today!