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There's nothing like celebrating National Day with a little racing between an SUV and an MPV. A white Honda Odyssey was spotted going toe to toe with a silver Mercedes GLA200 along the TPE expressway on Monday (Aug 9). The video starts off with the white Honda in the lead, as the driver recklessly switched into the camcar lane. Footage from the rear of the camcar showed that both cars were initially speeding along the expressway, with the silver Mercedes desperate to outrun its fellow counterpart. With the Honda quickly gaining speed, the driver of the Mercedes decided to resort to overtaking the camcar on its left - a really dangerous move given that all vehicles were travelling at a relatively high speed. As both vehicles zipped in and out between other cars on the road, it was tough to judge who won the race. Netizens' reactions Who really won this race? --- Thinking of selling your car? sgCarMart Quotz guarantees the highest selling price for your car. We’ll even give you $100 cash if you find a better offer elsewhere! Get a free quote to find out how much your car is worth today!

This thread is for sharing of car model not available in Singapore. It is not necessary that the car must be something exotic, very rare or for that matter, cost you an arm and leg (well, every car here cost us an arm and leg already...) I still remembered in the early 90s (during the pre-internet era), when I made my first overseas trip to Europe, I was like a mountain tortoise, staring at every car model on the street, and spending half of my photo films shooting nothing but just "rare" cars that I have never seen in Singapore, hahaha OK, let me start the ball rolling, and these few are high on my list (and many more to come)... BMW X1 LWB. I am a sucker for LWB model, as the additional leg room in the rear make the car feel a class high than standard wheelbase model. BMW 5 Series LWB. Who will need a 7 Series if we can have this model... 3rd Generation Honda Accord (JDM). I am also a fan of pop up headlight... Honda Odyssey (USDM). This make it a very good competitor to the Alphard and like... Kia Grand Carnival. Another great looking full size MPV... 2018 Buick Enclave Avenir. A direct competitor to the highly acclaimed Mazda CX9...

Consumer Reports’ New Annual Auto Reliability Data Reveals Safest Bets and Riskiest Choices Among New Vehicles Lexus achieves top spot among automakers in auto reliability brand ranking with Mazda, Toyota, close behind. Buick continues as the most reliable domestic brand--and the only one in top 10. https://www.consumerreports.org/media-room/press-releases/2021/11/consumer-reports-new-annual-auto-reliability-data-reveals-safest-bets-and-riskiest-choices-among-new-vehicles/ Release date 11/18/2021. YONKERS, NY — Eight of the top ten most reliable brands are from Asia, and only one--Buick--is a domestic, according to the latest Annual Auto Reliability data from Consumer Reports (CR), the nonprofit research, testing, and consumer advocacy organization. But there were some positive indicators for the domestics, too, as American models topped seven vehicle categories--an unusually strong showing. The 2021 Auto Reliability Report is based on data collected from CR members about their experiences with more than 300,000 vehicles in the annual surveys. The survey findings were announced at an online news conference before the Detroit-based Automotive Press Association today. Owners reported everything from transmissions needing replacement after as little as 5,000 miles to display screens that required hardware replacement and misaligned tailgates and doors. "With new-car prices at all-time highs and a shortage of vehicles on dealers’ lots, it’s more important than ever to consider reliability when you invest in something new,” said Jake Fisher, senior director of auto testing at Consumer Reports. “Buying a reliable vehicle can help ensure that you’ll be able to hit the road when you need to, and not worry about getting stuck waiting on parts for repairs.” Other highlights from CR’s influential annual report include the following: Despite their complexity, hybrids and plug-in vehicles are among the most reliable models. High-end electric-powered Sport Utility Vehicles are among the least reliable vehicles, but NOT because of their relatively simple powertrains. Complex electronics are their Achilles Heel, at least for now. Some Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, and Toyota models continue to have problems due to technologically advanced, and complex, transmissions. CR’s auto statisticians calculate reliability ratings for every major mainstream car, minivan, SUV, and truck on the market, even ones that are brand-new and redesigned for 2021. To do so, the team analyzes annual CR member surveys data on a model’s reliability history, calculating the brand’s overall reliability and, if applicable, the reliability of models that use some of the same components. Consumer Reports’ analysis of new-car reliability is a key element of CR’s Overall Score, which is a holistic measure of a vehicle’s quality designed to make it easy for consumers to quickly find the best cars, SUVs, and trucks to suit their needs. The Overall Score also includes road-test performance, owner satisfaction survey results, whether a vehicle comes with key active safety systems, and results from crash tests, if applicable. “The pandemic is creating a scramble for consumers as they face a reduced supply of new cars and significantly higher prices. That's why it's more important than ever that people get trusted help finding safe, secure, and reliable vehicles,” said Marta Tellado, President and CEO of Consumer Reports. “Our annual reliability reports, combined with our comprehensive auto testing, can empower consumers with the trusted information to make better purchases and navigate this unusually difficult marketplace.” Eight of the 10 Top Brands are from Asia Of the top ten most reliable automakers, eight are headquartered in Asia, with Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota in the top three spots respectively. Historically, Lexus and Toyota have regularly been at the top of CR’s brand rankings for reliability. That’s an especially noteworthy accomplishment for Toyota, which has a wide array of different nameplates in the survey--13 in all. Mazda, which was the top brand overall last year, falls to second place. Mazda’s above average overall performance was marred by the Mazda3 small car, which has average predicted reliability due to problems with its climate system and in-car electronics issues. Mazda has a conservative design approach with shared platforms and similar components, which helps it to produce reliable vehicles overall. Mazda has also stuck with its dependable six-speed automatic transmission while other automakers use more complex ones with eight or nine ratios or continuously variable transmissions, some of which have proven troublesome. All Lexus models score average or better for reliability in CR’s report. The Lexus GX SUV is the most reliable new vehicle overall this year; owners reported no problems for the three model years that CR analyzed in the brand rankings. The UX is Lexus' only average model. Third-ranking Toyota has only one model scoring below average, the Corolla Hatchback; CR’s members reported issues that required a transmission replacement or rebuild. The RAV4 remains average mostly because of problems filling the fuel tank on some versions. The Tacoma and the redesigned-for-2021 Sienna are both also average; the Sienna showed some power equipment problems. Both the RAV4 Prime and Venza, new for 2021, are well above average. Infiniti ranks fourth overall, an admirable improvement of six spots this year. The Q50 sedan remains impressive and the troublesome QX50 SUV improved to average. Buick is the most reliable domestic brand, coming in at fifth place overall. The Encore and redesigned Envision are both well-above average, and the Encore GX is above average. Surprisingly, the Enclave drops to below average, with transmission, drive system, and blank in-car electronics screen issues. High Rankings for Several Domestic Models Mark Signs of Improvement for U.S. Manufacturers Models from five domestic brands, Buick, Chevrolet, GMC, Chrysler, and Ford, take the top spots in seven categories--an unusually strong showing. They include: Buick Envision (Luxury Compact SUVs) Chevrolet Trailblazer (Subcompact SUVs) Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD and its twin the GMC Sierra 2500HD (Full-sized Pickups) Chrysler 300 (Midsized/Large Cars) Ford Bronco Sport (Compact SUVs) Ford Mustang Mach-E (Electric SUVs) Ford Ranger (Midsized Pickups) CR’s data also shows that hybrids and plug-in vehicles are among the most reliable models even though they have unusually complicated drivetrains. These vehicles include the Honda Insight, Kia Niro and the Toyota Prius, Prius Prime, RAV4 Prime, and Venza. One likely reason for their reliability is that most of these are well-established models that haven’t seen radical changes over the years. Even the new-for-2021 Venza uses a tried-and-true powertrain. The analysis also shows that fully-electric SUVs are among the least reliable vehicles. They include the Tesla Model X and Y, Audi E-Tron and Volkswagen ID.4. All have a high rate of problems in areas other than the electric powertrain. Some of these problems include climate controls, in-car electronics, and power equipment. Honda Ranks Sixth in Brand Rankings Honda ranks sixth among brands, down one from last year, with the Insight scoring well-above average. The CR-V, Accord, and Ridgeline score above average and the remaining models are all average. Both the Passport and Odyssey have improved, though owners still report issues with the infotainment system freezing and power equipment. Some Odyssey owners also report problems with the sliding doors. Subaru comes in seventh overall. The Crosstrek is well-above average, and the Legacy, Impreza, and Forester are above average. However, the Ascent still has subpar reliability. Acura's rank is eighth overall. The TLX has exhibited impressive reliability in its first year after a redesign, and the redesigned 2022 MDX has above average first-year reliability after below-average reliability with its previous generation. The RDX improves from below average to average, though it still has ongoing issues with brakes, power equipment, and in-car electronics with the display screen freezing and needing hardware replacement, and software updates failing. Nissan improves this year, moving up to ninth place--mostly because of older models including the Rogue Sport, Murano, and Leaf, which show impressive reliability. Mini rounds out the top 10, making it the highest-ranked European automaker this year. Mini only has two models in the survey, the Cooper Countryman and Cooper/Clubman, and jumps 13 places in the standing. The jump is mainly attributed to its Cooper Countryman's outstanding reliability. Hyundai falls four positions this year to rank eleventh. The redesigned Tucson is well-above average, and the Sonata and Palisade are also above average. The Kona Electric and freshened Santa Fe are below average, with, respectively, battery pack and electric drive motor problems, and transmission and power equipment issues. Kia drops three to 19th place this year, with transmissions being the brand's weak spot. The eight-speed dual clutch transmission that is used with the turbo engine in the redesigned Sorento is problematic. Owners of the Soul, Seltos, and Forte report a problem-prone CVT that could require replacement. The Niro Electric improved and the Telluride remains outstanding. Genesis’ reliability is suffering as the brand rapidly grows with new models. While the G70 has improved to average, the new GV80 SUV scores well-below average due to infotainment screen and drive system problems. Four Domestic Brands are Midpack Domestic brands are midpack or below--Chrysler at 12th, Chevrolet at 14, Cadillac at 16th, and Ford at 18th. Jeep, Tesla, and Lincoln took the three bottom ranks. Chrysler has just two vehicles in the survey--the 300, which has outstanding reliability, and the Pacifica minivan, which is well-below average due to issues including the transmission and sliding doors. Chevrolet models spread across almost the entire range of CR’s reliability scale--some excellent and some subpar. The new Trailblazer SUV and the Trax are both excellent. After years of respectable reliability, the Bolt EV dropped to below average, due to battery problems and electric drive failures, among other issues. The Silverado 2500HD and Blazer are above average. Others, including the Corvette and redesigned Tahoe, are well-below average. GMC's rank dropped because of similar problems as twin models from Chevrolet. The Sierra 1500, Yukon, and Canyon are all below- or well-below average. GMC’s only above-average vehicle was the Sierra 2500HD. Cadillac improved six spots this year, helped by the reliable XT5 SUV. The XT6 and XT4 are below- and well-below average, respectively. Ford is showing improvement this year, with the new Bronco Sport, Mustang Mach-E, and Ranger all at the top of their classes for reliability. But the redesigned F-150 scored below average, as did the Escape. Both the Mustang and the Explorer are well-below average. Ram drops the most in CR’s brand ranking this year, sliding twelve spots to 21st. While the Ram 2500 and 1500 are both average, the 1500 Classic (the previous generation 1500) has well-below average reliability marked by problems with brakes, emissions systems, engine, and power equipment. Jeep ranks 26 and among the bottom three brands. The company’s most reliable model last year, the Gladiator, fell below average. The Cherokee and Wrangler are both below average. The Wrangler has issues with the drive system, in-car electronics, and, like the similar Gladiator, with the steering and suspension. The Cherokee has in-car electronics and some transmission issues. Tesla, with four models in the survey, is unchanged at second from last. While Tesla’s Model 3 has average reliability, the Model Y still has body hardware issues with the tailgate and door alignment, paint defects, and multiple other problems. The Model X and Model S both have body hardware, climate system, and in-car electronics problems. All Lincoln models have below-average reliability, with the Corsair and Aviator being well-below average. They, along with the Nautilus, have transmission, in-car electronics and power equipment problems. Mixed Bag for European Models Porsche ranks midpack at 13, down two from last year. The Cayenne and Macan have average and above-average reliability. Audi is unchanged at 15th. The A4 and A5 remain above average, and are joined by the A6 and Q5. The Q7 is average, but the Q3 has below-average reliability. The Q8 and E-Tron, both well-below average, continue to have drive system and power equipment issues. BMW is in 17th, down four. The X5, 3 Series, 5 Series, and X3 all have average reliability, but the redesigned 4 Series has subpar reliability due to power equipment problems. Volvo is 20th overall, down one. The XC90 continues to score well-below average, mostly due to issues with brakes, climate system, and body hardware. The S60 dropped to below average this year also because of multiple issues. The XC40 is average and the XC60 is now above average. Mercedes-Benz is in 23rd, down two from last year. The only reliable model is the GLC. The E-Class fell to below average and the GLE remains well-below average, with numerous power equipment, climate system, in-car electronics, and some engine problems. Volkswagen is at 24th overall, up 1 from last year. While the Atlas and Jetta improved to average reliability, the Tiguan and the new ID.4 EV are both subpar. For more information on CR’s 2021 #CRCarReliability findings, visit CR.org/reliability or follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @consumereports. About Consumer Reports Annual Auto Reliability Surveys The latest Consumer Reports Annual Auto Reliability Surveys, gathered information from the organization's members on more than 300,000 vehicles from model years 2000 to 2021. Members filled out online surveys in the spring and summer of 2021. CR’s reliability predictions are based on overall reliability for the past three model years, provided the vehicle has not been redesigned. One or two years of data will be used if the model was redesigned in 2021 or 2020. CR bases its reliability analysis on data gathered from CR members each year about problems they had with their vehicles in the past 12 months. CR’s team of statisticians and survey researchers, then analyzed trouble areas and created an overall reliability score for each model and year. Serious problem areas that can lead to expensive repairs are more heavily weighted. More information can be found at www.CR.org.

Haha you are bad. But that bend is an exception of all the expressways in SGP that i have ever expericned. I happen to have chance to drive both merce and Odyssey on that same stretch from time to time, the merce had no feel of that problem at all but was quite obvious on the two diff odyssey models that i owned. So i believe the poorer road holding cars are more susceptible to skiding there.

Another facelift, for a 6 year old model... The sensor activated sliding door look interesting, and will be good if it work as intended.

So many questions left unanswered ? While I applaud for this movement that pull the plug on illegal starex kind of vehicles, What if own vehicle like odyssey, alphard or Serena needs to bring 3 gen of family members across, the elderly also need to disembark and walk or queue through immigration??

There is a saying that goes like this: "If you are not angry when you drive, you are the one making others angry." It is true to a certain extent, except that it is more towards being annoyed than being angry. However, for this particular taxi driver, he may have taken that quote a bit too far. Watch the video below to see how he expresses his anger towards a fellow motorist: Warning: The following video features plenty of Hokkien vulgarities, voice cracking and inaudible shouting. Watch it at your own risk! What Happened? The incident occurred along Jalan Sultan. Apparently, the Honda Odyssey driver cut from the extreme left to the extreme right lane (taxi driver's lane) without checking and almost caused an accident. The Honda driver's behaviour angered the taxi driver, which prompted the taxi driver to honk him. Unhappy at being honked at, the Honda driver stopped in the middle of the road, impeding the path of the taxi driver. Subsequently, both drivers alighted from their cars, and they began to exchange a series of glorious expletives. Below is a brief and translated version of their confrontation: A Mere Coincidence? IMO, the taxi driver ain't no angel either. It feels as if he was out to pick a fight with the Honda Odyssey driver for cutting into his lane. And somehow, there wasn't any footage of the Honda driver performing what the taxi driver claimed he did. That's a bit too coincidental, isn't it? Netizens' Comments Seems like the taxi driver was seizing the opportunity to vent his frustration on the Honda Odyssey driver. Sorry, I snickered at this comment. @Honda Odyssey driver Pls upload your dashcam footage. ======== Receive a $10 PayNow for every submission we publish on Facebook! Simply WhatsApp us ➡️https://bit.ly/3c6JERA

Talking about gearbox conversion, there was a RB Odyssey that managed to fit an Integra manual gearbox few years ago. Till today, I have no idea how that fella managed to do it and get approval from LTA ("supposedly" approved by LTA)

You left handed? I had one similar one from Odyssey many years back. Best putter I ever owned, great for long puts, straight puts, but breaking puts need a lot of feel with it, like have to sleep with it that kind of feel. Good buy, you will love it.

Looks like quite an old Odyssey.

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I have no impression on how a 2004 odyssey looks like, so curious and ask Mr Google. 😂 Actually i always find odyssey quite a spacious MPV car.

So you were Odyssey fan, bought two Odyssey back to back. 😂

I think car prices in year 2000/01 were quite expensive, i paid 135k for a new Odyssey, in 2016 i sold it off and bought another new odyssey for 95k(less than 100k). It was at that point that i told myself i was foolish to pay 135k for a new car, and i vowed not pay more than 100k for a new car anymore, and the spell stays till now, i have been driving COE car 😜😜

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Actually 170k km cannot consider premature failure , depending on probability. The mileage might have likely been tweaked before as well. But gear box problem no big deal, can be fixed easily, just that it is a slightly more costly. My odyssey kong out at 220k km.

My 14 year old W212 had this intermittent rattling noise from the front when decelerating to about 40kmh to 20kmh, it will happen when engine is heated up. The rattle noise sounds like a rotating mechanism knocking or marbles hitting some metal walls. The problem is difficult to troubleshoot due to the intermittent nature of the noise and only when the car is moving . I have to highlight that I am one who will not save on maintenance, so it is not due to lack of servicing. Let me share the trouble I have to go through to nail the cause, or at least, I believe the mechanic have found the cause. It started off with the intermittent noise, to rule out some of the possible causes and guess work, I want to highlight that I have replaced engine mounts , transmission mounts, belts , tensioner, cam adjusters, timing chain etc, even the drive shaft bearing and bracket was replaced. Most of those mentioned items were replaced as part of wear and tear or as preventive maintenance along the way during various servicing schedules till my car has reached 200k km now, except for the drive shaft bearing and bracket , it was the one that I told my workshop to replace it as part of problem isolation. I also asked the mechanic to check if there was metal parts like heat shield or exhaust that may come very close to contact with other metal or mountings, but there was none. 2nd workshop Since the first workshop couldn't pin point the problem, I asked another of my regular workshop, the mechanic heard the noise and told me could be auto transmission and he will have to open up the autotrans and service the whole unit, I was not convinced that it could be the autotrans but I could not fault the mechanic since he had only heard the noise for the first time. I told him more likely to be the engine and asked if he could check the valve lifter etc, but he didnt think so. 3rd Workshop To validate the findings form the 2nd workshop, i sent the car to an autotrans specialist that i repaired my Odyssey gear box before to get a 2nd opinion, incidentally, the car came up with a engine check light when we rev the engine hard during the test drive, he had also heard the noise. He told me my ECU was having problem after reading the code from OBD. Again i was not convinced the noise can be caused by ECU, I didnt want to speculate why the engine check light first. I check the error code when i reached home, it was indicating cylinder 4 having fault. 4th workshop Not convinced with the autotrans specialist, I sent my car to another autotrans and engine specialist workshop, the guy heard the noise, check the code, he didnt know what happen, asked me to leave the car with him. After the next full day, he told me he could not find the problem, I asked him to open the engine block to check, look out for hairline cracks, valve lifters defects etc, he asked me if i was sure that I wanted to open the engine block, i told him to proceed. Another day had gone and he said still no fault found, I was a little panic then, I told myself cant be so complicated or bad luck. Fortunately, on the 4th day, he told he he found the knocking, it was due to a piston that was slightly loosen and was knocking against the cylinder. With that, I was more convinced with the finding, at least it was likely the cause of knocking and it explained why only when the engine was heated up. Those who know about engine would know what happen next, the engine will have to be overhauled. He told me that will need at least 5k, but that was not my concern, I am hoping that the problem could be resolved once and for all. My experience indicates one thing, one needs to have some car knowledge in order to drive an old car, otherwise, otherwise one maybe taken for a ride by workshops. Not that they will cheat but the problem is when they only get to see or hear a problem for once, their diagnostic and conclusion may not be accurate, especially when a problem is intermittent, the owner who drive the car everyday have to provide feedback accurately, take the input from mechanics and decide if the findings make sense. Now on the workshops, one may think that I anyhow find a workshop to diagnose a strange problem, no i did not, all the workshops that i engaged are not fly by night workshops, they are reputable and very experience workshops , just that the problem i had was unique and more difficult to troubleshoot. The repair should be done by mid to late next week, I really hope the problem could be resolved and I personally think so. Meantime I have to be contented with my Altis.🤣

Now Taller and Wider and with sliding door , anyway this is the JDM version not the US version , now it really look like the US version. Probably will come to our shore end of this year.

Enjoy reading- A GROUP of intrepid Singapore motorists are showing that you do not need airplanes to travel the world - just four wheels, a gung-ho spirit and cruise control. Singapore permanent resident Daniel Ma from Malaysia and his wife, Singaporean Hew Shiau Wei, drove from India to South Africa in their off-peak Singapore-registered Hyundai Matrix car, a journey that took more than nine months. That was a mere jaunt in the big scheme of things, though. The adventurous pair, both 29, started in August last year and recently completed an extreme road trip which covered 43,500km and 24 countries. Their India to South Africa trip was just one leg of it. During their odyssey, they encounted huge potholes in India and swindlers in Egypt, and drove alongside grazing giraffes on desert roads in Kenya. The car-crazy couple are among an increasing number of Singaporeans and residents here taking the road less travelled - well, for a driving holiday at least. The Automobile Association (AA) of Singapore, which organised a 23-day road trip from Singapore to Lijiang in China last September, said it is experiencing a jump in the popularity of road trips among their members. The motoring association regularly organises road holidays to Malaysia, with more than 400 of its members taking part last year. Its spokesman said: 'Driving holidays have become more popular as members have become more adventurous and road savvy and do not want to be constrained by a fixed itinerary.' She added that these people 'prefer to have more control over time' and 'enjoy sights and places of interest that are not ordinarily covered in normal itineraries'. http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Drivers/St...607-220711.html

Brake fail or fainted? He went striaght at a T junction? This odyssey is 3 model before the current one, about 20 years old.

Referring to non Contis.. That time it was clear, compact MPV = auto default to Stream or Picnic. Full size MPV = Odyssey, Estima and Grandis. Alphard not that common yet.

Year 2003 onwards, the Pininfarina designed Matrix was a hit. Tuscani was selling in good numbers for a Korean coupe. Picanto was pretty popular too. That said, I love the 90s and 2000s car models and culture. Engines are good, a new car most likely came with a new gen engine, cars look different from each other based on segments (like a Civic and Accord looks completely different) Product differentiation was clear too. A Hatch is a hatch. A Sedan is a sedan.. small medium and large. The Wagon, Coupe, Roadster are lifestyle choices. SUVs and MPVs were not really common then. I believe it’s the RAV4 that kickstarted the mainstream SUV. MPVs like Grandis, Odyssey and Estimas were comfortable people movers. Now, almost every car is an SUV which to me is just a jacked up and upsized hatch. Why do we need so many variations that differs in sizes incrementally? Looking at you Audi, Q1 Q3 Q5 Q7. And a coupe can be a sedan, even SUV is a coupe. Faintz.

I know picnic, quite a popular MPV back then but find this car not as 'big' as odyssey. The renault espace got a bit impression, the design of this car looks weird and think not common on the road.