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This Phaeton,is a failure Worldwide,that time in 2001,VW wanted to make a VW & match with Mercedes Benz S-Class,BMW 7 Series & their Own Group Audi A8,it never really sold well,even in Germany,i still went for it's Launch in Singapore at the Esplanade,when VW just took over from Peter Kwee's Hand.

Would a VW Phaeton be considered uncommon? At first glance, I actually thought it was a Chrysler 300C. 😅 Might have been the big wheels and flared wheel arches...

Volkswagen is giving it's slow-selling Phaeton flagship another chance at life with a mid-life facelift. Set to be revealed at the 2010 Beijing Motor Show, the updated Phaeton features new technologies. The cosmetic changes up front include a more chiseled design with bi-xenon headlights complete with LED running lights and a new grille. At the rear end, changes are limited to the new light units and a restyled bumper. The redesigned alloy wheel round off the exterior updates. Moving on to the interior, a new steering wheel and instrumental panel are joined by fresh trim finishes and the option of Google Maps on the RNS810 satellite navigation system. The updated Phaeton will be available with a choice of two wheelbase options, two back seat versions (three seats / two individual seats) and four engines including a V6 FSI petrol with 280HP, a V8 petrol with 335HP, a range-topping W12 petrol with 450HP and a V6 TDI diesel producing 240HP. The 2011 Phaeton will go on sale this August.

At the Transparent Factory in Dresden Volkswagen produces one of the finest automobiles in the world: the Phaeton. The limousine's quality and comfort (four-wheel drive and air suspension as standard) set a unique benchmark. Volkswagen, the most successful carmaker in Europe and China, has now made the Phaeton even more perfect. The company's new flagship is being unveiled for the first time at Auto China 2010 (27th April to 2nd May) in Beijing.

You know, I don't think I've ever seen a Phaeton on the road. And don't know anyone driving one, either. Also, noticed that it's not listed under sgcarmart anymore. Sooooo...? Anyone can answer my question? It's like mythical beast, or something.

Yup this morning.. multiple of small group.. those super big phaeton normally on Saturday where those AMDK come out play.. Their speed is much higher.. their legs longer and more powerful so i ride only Sunday! whahahhahaha..

Was at Autovox today... Am I slow? Anybody else noticed? Spotted 2 covered ones in the compound... and 1 gleaming black one inside the warehouse thingy Other interesting finds... New Renault Megane 2.0L version Hmmm.......

May be a repost, but anyways, something for you VW lovers to be proud of. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1837641

Something that can please owners who might have some form of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, is Volkswagen's new Self-leveling center wheel caps. For those who don't know what they do, these Dynamic Volkswagen Hub Caps, as Volkswagen calls it, allow the Volkswagen badge “to stand freely within the item, meaning that the roundel is always the correct way up, no matter the speed of the car or the position of the wheel". According to Volkswagen U.K., these caps are described as “deluxe items” that add “a touch of super-luxury to compatible models.” On the topic of models that can use it, it is ironic that the wheel caps are not suitable for the luxury models such as the Touareg and Phaeton. That said, owners of the Up!, Polo, Lupo, and T-Cross can’t use them either. Price wise, they cost around S$263 a set and owners of cars that can fit them can order them through U.K.'s Volkswagen Retailer Network. This is not the first brand nor car to have such a feature as Rolls-Royce has been using them for quite a long period of time. “If you’re after a touch of that super-expensive segment on your Volkswagen, or if you just want to quell the niggling irritation of badges pointing in different directions to one another, being upside-down or not being perfectly horizontal when parked, then these are definitely for you,” explains James Woolfe, Accessories and Merchandise Product Manager at Volkswagen U.K.

Saw a Phaeton this morning! Old model though so not a W12 unfortunately. Pardon the quality as it's a screengrab from dashcam https://imgur.com/dAFmu0J https://imgur.com/R65sQsF

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/89538/new-vw-golf-mk8-to-be-lighter-greener-and-more-practical Pics in the Link above. New VW Golf Mk8 to be lighter, greener and more practical Exclusive: Volkswagen Golf Mk8 to lead the brand's dieselgate fightback Last summer’s diesel emissions scandal rocked the motor industry and shook the VW Group. Damage to the brand’s reputation and loss of customer confidence have been hard to quantify in recent months, but the consequences are set to be huge – and they’re likely to impact on the next-generation Golf, revealed in our exclusive images. Volkswagen has hatched a masterplan to save 1billion Euros per year, while making a clear commitment to electromobility and a new generation of ‘clean’ diesel engines. • Best hatchbacks on the market right now Various all-electric VW projects are in the pipeline, with a new Phaeton and Microbus concepts spearheading the brand’s emission-free future. On top of that, the German giant will now take a closer look at other areas of the business that it thinks can return significant savings – both financially and environmentally. Top of that list is the next Golf. The current Mk7 car is available in several shapes and sizes, with power ranging from small turbo petrols to hot diesels and plug-in hybrids. There’s even an all-electric e-Golf, capable of up to 118 miles on battery power alone. Although the Mk7 will get a mild facelift this year, the new car – due in 2018 – will build on this. It’ll be more practical, more powerful and, most importantly, more fuel efficient. VW will stick with its versatile MQB platform for the eighth-generation Golf, and despite the fact these underpinnings will be more than eight years old when the next model hits the market, the scalable platform is expected to live on until at least 2025. Auto Express understands the new Golf will be between 35kg and 70kg lighter than the current car, and like the new Tiguan, will be both lower and wider. Plus, there will be more space inside thanks to more efficient packaging, as well as innovative features like gesture control and the Passat’s TFT dash. In terms of styling, the new Mk8 model is likely to follow VW’s pattern of evolution rather than revolution. As always, it’ll be immediately recognisable as a Golf, with smart LED headlamps and a sharper, more sculpted grille. We’re expecting to see some deeper creases in the bumper and bodywork, as well as a reprofiled rear end. Also set to appear is a more upmarket interior – with plenty of brushed metals, leathers and high-quality plastics. Under the bonnet, VW will introduce a series of super-efficient three-cylinder 1.5-litre TDI diesels – ranging from 74bhp to 120bhp. These are likely to feature in the new Golf as well as numerous future models, and emit less than 85g/km of CO2. The engines will also be modular, meaning each cylinder of 500cc will make it more cost efficient for VW to develop larger and more powerful units such as 3.0-litre V6 diesels – for cars like the next Touareg SUV – at a later date. The Golf Mk8 will, of course, arrive on the market as a hatchback first, but an Estate spin-off, as well as hotter GTI, GTD and R versions will follow. We’ve not heard about any plans for a Cabriolet model, though, and one is unlikely to arrive before at least 2020. Elsewhere at the VW Group, bosses have outlined their intentions for an Audi Q6 SUV in 2018, followed by the Porsche Mission E saloon before the end of the decade – both of which will adopt all-electric drivetrains. The Group’s new electric MEB architecture to be employed by both the Audi and Porsche will also underpin the upcoming all-electric VW Phaeton limousine, which is due by 2020, too. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/89538/new-vw-golf-mk8-to-be-lighter-greener-and-more-practical

Got a chance to "use" a 6 litre V12 Phaeton for 3 days while visting their factory in Dresden...totally different class of Phaeton we are talking about. The one we have in Singapore are the el-cheapo version. The "real" Phaeton is a differnt class, both inside and out. The powerplant is the same unit as in the Bentley Continental, minus the twin turbo of course. Confirm can move the big lump from 0-100km/h in less than 5 sec ...but agree, even in Germany Phaeton is a failure. Not because of engineering, but most probably because of the badge err... i think the top range phaeton is using a W-12 engine?? and not a V-12? or rather 2 V6s blocks side by side to form a W12... anywys, i have no doubts abt the capabilities, luxuriousness and quality abt the phaeton... jus tat it has a BIG BIG hurdle of being sold in the same class & catergory of its BMW, MERC rivals....all this bcos of BRANDING. dun say... alfa is anthr good example of losing out due to brand image (no doubt brought on partly by poor quality & reliability).

Very doubtful about how far this can go. At this segment, brand still matters more than anything else. Just look at the previous K9, Genesis, or even Phaeton and Infiniti. None seem to have been able to break into the traditional territory of Merc, BMW and Audi. Lexus comes close but I'm sure everyone has an elderly at home who will tell you why spend so much on a Japanese car. Let alone Korean. The K900 can be a very effective product, but at this segment, we're talking desirability.

There is something special about this VW Passat (B5.5). Notice the W8 badge on the grill and boot lid? It come with 8 cylinder engine, in a rare W8 configuration. The W8 combined two narrow-angle (15 degree) VR4 engine blocks, mounted juxtaposed at 72 degrees to each other and coupled to one crankshaft. Nearly square external dimensions mean the large 8 cylinder engine will fit in the space typically taken by a V6 engine. The Volkswagen Group W8 engine was installed longitudinally in the Volkswagen Passat (B5.5) from September 2001 to September 2004, but sales were minimal at only 10,000 units worldwide per year. The Passat W8 was positioned as Volkswagen Passenger Cars' "premium" car, before the Volkswagen Phaeton was introduced. The 4.0L (3,999cc to be exact) W8 engine produced 275ps / 271bhp at 6,000rpm and 370Nm torque at 2,750rpm, was considered a fuel-efficient eight-cylinder engine due to the design. It also had a two-stage resonance induction system to boost cylinder filling across the engine speed range. It had two simplex roller chain-driven (relay method, using three chains) double overhead camshaft (two overhead camshafts per cylinder bank, hence "quad cam"), and twin balance shafts to smooth out residual vibrations inherent in the layout. One additional advantage was that the W8 shared some components and machining with narrow-angle VR5 and VR6 engines, leading to cost reduction in one of the most expensive engines Volkswagen Passenger Cars has ever produced.

The GT-R is a wholly different sort of car - much more hard core. But, agree that there are so many parallels between Nissan creating the GT-R and Kia creating the Stinger. I remember when the R35 was first launched in 2008, it was less than half the price of the 997 Turbo. But it beat the 997 Turbo not only in straight line acceleration, but also trashed it on the Nurburgring, driving Porsche absolutely nuts. Over the years, as Godzilla's reputation grew, so did its price tag. Today the GT-R Nismo is priced almost on par with the 911 Turbo S. Hence, the outcome of the GT-R would be the best case scenario for the Stinger. Or the Stinger could be another VW Phaeton, with second hand models going for Honda Civic equivalent depreciation after 7 years. Outcome remains to be seen, but have to applaud Kia for having the guts to push into this [entirely non-intuitive] direction.

well, considering the Flying Spur is really a rebadged Phaeton, i get the point of the Phaeton.... but with people willing to splurge $350k on a 3.5L sedan, or even $470k on the 750Li.... the Phaeton is a cheap car to them too.... so VW is left in the air with their premium products..... they should just focus on their 1.4TSI products....

Saw VW Phaeton the other day, one of those underappreciated cars

Thankfully, it wasn't a VW Phaeton. Well done by the Tesla driver. I hope the 47 year-old driver is ok.

Got a chance to "use" a 6 litre V12 Phaeton for 3 days while visting their factory in Dresden...totally different class of Phaeton we are talking about. The one we have in Singapore are the el-cheapo version. The "real" Phaeton is a differnt class, both inside and out. The powerplant is the same unit as in the Bentley Continental, minus the twin turbo of course. Confirm can move the big lump from 0-100km/h in less than 5 sec ...but agree, even in Germany Phaeton is a failure. Not because of engineering, but most probably because of the badge

Meet the VW Arteon (pronounced as Ar-tee-on), the car formerly known as the VW CC and, prior to that, the VW Passat CC. The name comes from the word 'art' and the made-up, but apparently upmarket-sounding, 'eon' suffix, which VW also uses on its Phaeton-replacing Phideon in China. For all that, it is this car's original name that gives the biggest clues as to where it is derived from, but of course Volkswagen, armed with its MQB architecture and its hastening push for more 'emotional' designs, wants to claim it is a unique design and give this European range-topping sports coupé its own space in which to play. That space is set to be pretty rarified for a car wearing a VW badge, because the target market is traditional premium buyers from both the Audi A4/BMW 3 Series/Mercedes C-Class sector and the larger Audi A6/BMW 5 Series/Mercedes E-Class sector. More directly, it’s a BMW 4 Series Gran Coupé rival.

Phaeton discontinued already.

Another exception is VW Phaeton, which uses torque converter on most models.

Not sure about the positioning now, but a few years ago, this is roughly how these brands are positioned; Premium / High end: Audi, Phaeton Medium / Mass market: VW, Skoda Sporty mass market / with higher trim: Seat Last but not least Commercial: VW, Dacia

VW R32? VW Jetta 1.4? VW GTI? VW Phaeton? Answer is No No No No Quote Matt156 Not everything you read can be believed #becausealfa

Phaeton if u can swallow the price last was B6 Passat 1.8 Tsi in 2010/2011