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But Honda and Mitsubishi don't have the badge and snob appeal like the Lexus and BMW. So people buying into luxury marques will not consider the former 2 brands in their radar scope.

 

So between the Lexus, Audi, Merc, Jag and BMW (typical luxury brands), for the same $120K+, the IS250 gives the biggest bang for the buck.

 

The Evo9 is >$120K right?

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Going by that theory, I'd spend $104,000 on a DC5 R and it will run bigger rings around the IS250. I will spend an equal if not lesser amount on an Evo 9 and run big big rings around the IS250 as well.

 

OK, even if we use your argument, and if we cap it to the $120K+ price point, snob appeal and badging aside, the DC5 R and Evo9 will run big big and even bigger, much much bigger bigger rings round the BMW 320i, compared to the IS250 right?

 

Comparing $ for $ here.

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Oh IS250 is also rear wheel drive?....oh so soli I didnt know although I test drove it [laugh]. of cos lexus is quieter, its has thicker insulation, thats their selling point.

 

What colour is your lexus, and where do you normally drive along. I will look out for you. If u see a silver car coming up yr rear mirror and honk like an crazy fella, thats me.....otherwise I can also be recognisable bcos I have a short spikey hair and a large tattoe on my arm [sly]

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Although they seem to no longer make similar cars to toyota [ eg harrier vs RX300 ], someone told me they are still sharing some parts with certain toyotas.

 

If one look at the PI Camry, will resemble the look of IS250 specially the side look.

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As a car-buying Singaporean, like all of us here, I would like to get the most from a car for the money that I spend. And personally, I would also avoid PI cars, since I have owned PI Mercs before and suffer from non-AD suppport (or the lack of it).

 

And same as most Singaporeans, branding is important to me too ... at least when I am spending more than $100K for a car. I'd like to be seen (if I can afford it) in a Merc, Lexus or BMW.

 

Now the most important questions are:

(1) What is the best (powerful, reliable and handles well) car for the money.

(2) Can I live with a Japanese brand.

 

If my answer is yes to (2), then I think the Lexus will nearly always give one better dynamics for the money spent, at any class level.

 

That is, at the $170K price point, I'd get the GS300 (3L V6) for its power, ride and reliability, compared to Merc E200K (1.8L IL4), or the BMW 523i (2.5L IL6).

 

At the $130K price point, I think the IS250 (2.5L V6) will sway me in, vs the Merc C-180K (1.8L IL4) or the BMW 320i (2L IL4). Again, based on power, handling and reliability.

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You don't know meh?

 

All Lexus are RWD, with the exception of the ES300 (FWD) and RX300 (AWD).

 

In the previous generations of GS and IS, they also sport longitudinally-mounted in-line 6-cylinder engines too (similar to BMW higher-end 6-potters). Only the recent incarnations of GS and IS have gone to V6 (a la Mercedes Benz).

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THANKS! MAN!

 

But then PUI to PM... buy now die later...hahahaha

 

I wonder how many ppl actually like this idea of PM?

 

 

This is just part of advertisement and I'm sure they put T & C applies, so why "pui to PM"? They don't hold a knife or gun against people who took up the offer.

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Lexus is good but the interior cabin size very the small...

 

Although the new GS300 looks very huge outside but the cabin and boot is much smaller than W210K & W211...

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This is just part of advertisement and I'm sure they put T & C applies, so why "pui to PM"? They don't hold a knife or gun against people who took up the offer.

 

They provide Repo man job opportunity one year later !

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Actually some owner also very steady.

 

I remember a few years back, one particular korean brand dealer offered a free first 6months drive-away. so people really drive it away and wait for it to be reposse when 6 months is up. Not sure if they ahve to pay in the end anot.

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The IS250 is a great car. My only reservations (personal idiosyncracy, I suppose) is the switch Lexus made to:

 

- Electric power steering (prefer hydraulic power steering for a more natural feel, as in the IS200)

- V6 engine (prefer IL-6 for inherent engine stability / smoothness as in IS200)

- All-aluminium engine block (prefer cast iron as in the IS200, though heavier but for long-term metallurgical reliability/strength at much higher temperature limits and lower resonating frequency - induced engine noise)

- Multi-link suspensions at rear (prefer all-round double wishbones, as in the IS200).

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Agree. If space is what you need, then the new GS and IS are somewhat a little smaller in internal cabin space compared to their Merc equivalents.

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hahah..ok.

 

A recent IS/3Series showdown(there have been so many)in which the IS250 won by a mile - the editor concluded, that while not only was the SI 250 cheaper the the 3 Series, it had almost no options available - as everything came standard - while the 3 series, was not only more expensive, it came quite barebone and almost everything was on a very expensive options list.

 

So the price divide between the 2 cars was really much much more then just the basic MSRP.

 

Also in the May/June Wheels Asia magazine for 2006 Best Car Awards:

 

Best Compact Luxury Sedan went to Lexus IS250, beating the BMW 3-Series and Audi A4.

Best Luxury Sedan went to Lexus GS300, beating the BMW 5-Series and Jaguar S-Type.

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Turbocharged
But Honda and Mitsubishi don't have the badge and snob appeal like the Lexus and BMW. So people buying into luxury marques will not consider the former 2 brands in their radar scope.

 

So between the Lexus, Audi, Merc, Jag and BMW (typical luxury brands), for the same $120K+, the IS250 gives the biggest bang for the buck.

 

The Evo9 is >$120K right?

 

I agree with your statement. IS250 gives the best bang for the buck. But I still don't agree with comparing 2.5 with 2.0.

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Turbocharged

There's no contest on power because its a 2.5 versus 2.0 and a SC 2.0 for MB.

 

Handling... now that one is subjective.

 

Reliability... yeah you're right that Lexus should be more reliable

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Turbocharged

BTW don't label me a Lexus basher because I almost... ALMOST bought the IS200! That is one good car to me! [cool]

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