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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:52 PM

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Singapore wins Pedra Branca

Malaysia wins Middle Rocks and Southern Ledge
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:56 PM

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http://www.mycarforu...375101/#2375101

LOL late 1 min
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:57 PM

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So Overall do we still lose out ?

Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... laugh.gif
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:01 PM

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What type of judgement is this dizzy.gif dizzy.gif dizzy.gif

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:03 PM

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we got the island... they got a cluster of rocks and an elevation which is submerged during high tide....

in other words, we got the fish and they got the hay-bee
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:08 PM

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Maybe I'm not so patriotic. I just don't know what's the big fuss about a pile of rock in the middle of the sea. Exactly like you have said, during high tide it'll probably be submerged, and maybe 1 more tsunami later, it don't exist anymore.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:10 PM

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Wah ...like that seems very complicating lei ... wouldn't it cause more tension ? From the map shown . It's seems that the distance is very near between the Rocks and island...

It's like Singapore had the house. Malaysia had the door ...
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:13 PM

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hmm...it's not being patriotic... it's more of being aware and well-informed. Bro chickenfarm has done a good job in summarizing it up. See below link

http://www.mycarforu...2374352#2374352
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:14 PM

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yup... the focus will now be the waters around the island and rocks and who owns it and by how much...
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:22 PM

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Maybe I'm not so patriotic. I just don't know what's the big fuss about a pile of rock in the middle of the sea. Exactly like you have said, during high tide it'll probably be submerged, and maybe 1 more tsunami later, it don't exist anymore.


Radarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...................
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:26 PM

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the 2 other rocks are nothing...the lighthouse is very crucial for shipping...

So Overall do we still lose out ?

Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... laugh.gif


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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:28 PM

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this pile of rocks means alot in terms of our territory.. there is the EEZ etc.. wink.gif wink.gif
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:33 PM

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nod.gif Exclusive Economic Zone which stretches from the coastline of Pedra Branca to a distance of 2 nautical miles...

Bottomline is; u can do whatever u wish within this EEZ including the mining of natural resources if any. And of course the right of passage of commercial vessels into Singapore waters and sea ports via this route thumbsup.gif

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:34 PM

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:38 PM

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So Overall do we still lose out ?

Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... laugh.gif


Our pie is bigger, they got part of the crust and a piece of rock. flowerface.gif

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:40 PM

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In short; dun just think abt. the waters around the rocks...think abt the waters all the way from Singapore to the lighthouse...these belongs to Singapore.

And of course there is no such thing as 2 nautical miles in Singapore and MY waters cos we are too close to each other so an imaginary line has to be drawn in the middle and that includes the demarcation between the lighthouse and Middle Rocks and South Ledge.

But the important note is vessels can still come in via Singapore's segment of territorial waters over there instead of making a big detour which merchants may give Singapore a miss due to that thumbsup.gif

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:43 PM

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Always thot EEZ is 200 nau. miles..... maybe i am wrong.


Personally , very happie cos still can go Horsburgh fishing.......tho current there is terrible...
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:45 PM

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U're right bro...I'm the one who is mistaken abt. the figures here laugh.gif

Under UNCLOS, territorial waters stretches from our shoreline to a distance of 2 nautical miles. Beyond that there is still the EEZ which is 200 nautical miles so that adds up to the original demarcation thumbsup.gif I left that 200 miles out bcos we don't really have that luxury over here nod.gif

Time for me to do some revision liao laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Thanks for highlighting the descrepancy bro thumbsup.gif flowerface.gif

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:48 PM

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Heard seabed surrounding that area a lot of good quality sand, unlimited due to the nature of the current flow across that area............
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:52 PM

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And commercial fishing over there is good too thumbsup.gif Foreign Fishing vessels came into our Jurong and Senoko Fisheries Port via the waters over there nod.gif

And of course reclamation and wat naught could be done uninhibitedly within our waters...wah so many tangible benefits I can't list them all out in a flash wink.gif

It may have nothing to do with me economically but as a SINGAPOREAN, I'm happy that we won flowerface.gif

I'm saying this regardless of who is the govt. of the day...I'm saying this bcos this is a victory for Singaore and as a Singaporean, I'm happy for my country thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

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