Luoxy Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Author Share December 9, 2010 (edited) i've been thinking. in what scenario will COE plunge? cant think of any. prophet LuoXY says: European financial crisis hit in next 1~2 years , Euro zone will break up into two. global recession again and COE will plunge along it. Edited December 9, 2010 by Luoxy ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andylau1177 Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 Steady lah bro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 i've been thinking. in what scenario will COE plunge? cant think of any. When the stock markets come crashing down. Hit them if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllee1974 Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 thanks TS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zze121 3rd Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 (edited) Cash flow of the AD determine the COE, less COE quota lead to high COE price. Cash rich AD with high profit can affort to pump in more $$ if they receive big order. Currently 2L above r the driving force, it will take some time to go down. 1.6 below just follow the trench. COE price x nos COE = $100mil Edited December 9, 2010 by Zze121 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 thanks TS. good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XALmoN Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 looking good there... but frankly, 30k for a COE sounds just about fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clneosg Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 (edited) While $110,500 in Nov 1994 in today's money taking into consideration 3% inflation per year is $177,320. So that means still not high yet if want to break Nov 1994 record in today's money @ $177,320 taking 3% inflation per yr till Nov 2010. Edited December 9, 2010 by Clneosg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clneosg Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 Jul 97 CAT A - $62,208 In today's money assume 3% inflation per yr - $94,095! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alechi 2nd Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 googled around, couldn't find COE chart before 2007. I made my own using data from LTA website. (note that data after 2002 are 3 month moving average instead of individual bidding) before plotting the chart, i thought it is normal for COE to be around 15k. to my surprise, the less then 20k COE from 2005~2010 seems to be an abnormality rather then a norm. Just for sharing and give a bit of historical perspective view of COE price. please say "thank TS" if you find this useful, it is not a fun job to do the chart :) thanks ... based on your plot ... and making comparisons to uptrend in 1990 oonwards ... it means that the peak has yet to be reached and car buyers can only next get it cheap in like 10 - 15 yrs time??? Nobody is spared ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwchan 1st Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 highest COE ever for car was $110500 in Nov 1994 enough to buy a flat back in 1994 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luoxy Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Author Share December 9, 2010 thanks ... based on your plot ... and making comparisons to uptrend in 1990 oonwards ... it means that the peak has yet to be reached and car buyers can only next get it cheap in like 10 - 15 yrs time??? Nobody is spared ... past performance is no guarantee of future performance results. history never repeat itself. But it seems we won't see 15k COE any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saycheese78 Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 can someone add a fibonacci retrace chart and also MACD? Tx haha WELL DONE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanly 5th Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 It can't be all rosey & boom time for the next 10 yrs right??? I agreed it'll be a while before we can see COE softening down but 10-15 yrs is way too long... may not goes back to the days of <10k with the new quota formula... but retreating to the range of 20-30k should be likely when the next economy down turn comes along... when will that be I don't know but definitly can't be > 5-6 yrs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWind 4th Gear December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 Thanks, very interesting. With the current COE at 40-60k (Cat A and B) how long do u rekon we have to wait before it reverts back to $20k range? I say hopefully 2 years? Find the historical highest and lowest coe from wikipedia here it is Historical record since May 1990 Previous Category May 1990-Apr 1999 Current Category May 1999 till now Highest Lowest Remarks Cat 1 (1000cc and below) Cat A S$41,008 (Jul 1997) S$2 (Nov 2008) A major historical plunge due to lower than minimum bidders at S$2. Cat 2 (1001cc - 16000cc) and taxi S$62,208 (Jul 1997) Cat 3 (1601cc - 2000cc) Cat B S$83,500 (Dec 1994) S$50 (Jan 1998) A major historical plunge due to lower than minimum bidders at S$50. Cat 4 (2001cc and above) S$110,500 (Dec 1994) S$800 (Apr 1991) Cat 5 (Goods Vehicle and Bus) Cat C S$39,000 (Dec 1994) S$1 (Apr 1991) A minor historical plunge to S$1 due to high quota with minimum bid. Cat 6 (Motorcycles) Cat D S$1,559 (Dec 2000) S$1 (May 1990, Jan-Feb 1994, Nov 2002 - Mar 2003) This is due to higher quota for motorcyles Cat 7 (Open) Cat E S$95,986 (Dec 1994) S$998 (Mar 1991) Cat 8 (Weekend Cars) Nil S$45,300 (Sep 1994) S$1,110 (Oct 1991) It was stopped on Sep 1994, the scheme was replaced by the Off-peak Car rebate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poren Neutral Newbie December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 So when COE hit the highest, the Financial crisis will come. Is it? from the graph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townegg Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 Thanks TS! Looks like COE wont go back to 20k-30k level suddenly.. will take some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branteo Clutched December 9, 2010 Share December 9, 2010 prophet LuoXY says: European financial crisis hit in next 1~2 years , Euro zone will break up into two. global recession again and COE will plunge along it. 2 years later will be ideal! haha ... my car will turn 5 years old then ... hopefully Cat B will drop to more decent levels. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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