Octane booster really boost up............

[Shor]

My car manual recommendations for fuel is at minimum 91 RON. I am to have a long trip to Thailand and found out that Thailand mostly selling Gasohol 95 E10 ( 10% ethanol ) except for a few stations selling pure Benzene . The highest the sell is 91 RON.

 

 

In Singapore, I normally fill up my car 95 or 98. And the manufacturer told me Gasohol will not be allowed for my car. So I was thinking, if I head North, I have to pump 91 RON for my entire trip but definitely the performance will be very sluggish.

 

 

I was wondering, any bros have experience pumping lower grade fuel and pump in some Octane booster to boost up? If so, what brand is recommendable and how much must I fill for a 80 Lit tank? thank you very much and any inputs appreciate!!!

 

 

 

[Mecontle]

My car manual recommendations for fuel is at minimum 91 RON. I am to have a long trip to Thailand and found out that Thailand mostly selling Gasohol 95 E10 ( 10% ethanol ) except for a few stations selling pure Benzene . The highest the sell is 91 RON.

 

 

In Singapore, I normally fill up my car 95 or 98. And the manufacturer told me Gasohol will not be allowed for my car. So I was thinking, if I head North, I have to pump 91 RON for my entire trip but definitely the performance will be very sluggish.

 

 

I was wondering, any bros have experience pumping lower grade fuel and pump in some Octane booster to boost up? If so, what brand is recommendable and how much must I fill for a 80 Lit tank? thank you very much and any inputs appreciate!!!

 

i only heard diesel is in fact lower ron petrol that add huge ratio of artifical additive to make it low to combust

 

so i wonder if additive will also artificially up ur ron91 but i seen a top gear tv said all additive r scams they never help the engine except make it worse

 

 

[Shor]

I've in fact read a few motor forums. Some pro also saying that all these addictive is a waste of money and time. But so many ppl still using and some of them the price are not cheap too.

 

 

Some bros advice carrying a jellycan and fill in if happen to see the 95, but I find it quite troublesome. But if my manufacturer advice minimum pumping 91 Octane ( RON ), in this case I think shouldn't be a big problem only that the ride will not be as smooth as 95 or 98.

 

 

Pardon my noob question because I had only used once in my life ( the Octane booster ) on my previous CR-V and find nothing special on it!!!

 

 

Can anyone comment, I never use a 91 before, can I pump it? Will it condemn my engine?

 

 

 

i only heard diesel is in fact lower ron petrol that add huge ratio of artifical additive to make it low to combust

 

so i wonder if additive will also artificially up ur ron91 but i seen a top gear tv said all additive r scams they never help the engine except make it worse

 

[Dfx16]

U might want get this http://www.hksthailand.com/index.php?tpid=0081&pgid=0079

Available locally via GarageR

[Kb27]

My car manual recommendations for fuel is at minimum 91 RON. I am to have a long trip to Thailand and found out that Thailand mostly selling Gasohol 95 E10 ( 10% ethanol ) except for a few stations selling pure Benzene . The highest the sell is 91 RON.

 

 

In Singapore, I normally fill up my car 95 or 98. And the manufacturer told me Gasohol will not be allowed for my car. So I was thinking, if I head North, I have to pump 91 RON for my entire trip but definitely the performance will be very sluggish.

 

 

I was wondering, any bros have experience pumping lower grade fuel and pump in some Octane booster to boost up? If so, what brand is recommendable and how much must I fill for a 80 Lit tank? thank you very much and any inputs appreciate!!!

Toulene and xylene are commonly used for octane booster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

 

You can get 18L tin at www.homely.com.sg

 

Homebrew octane booster

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octaneexplained.html

Edited June 8, 2011 by Kb27

[Mona-vie]

You can get the Amsoil octance booster. Can boost around 2RON. So you get around RON93.

 

There aren't any octane boosters in the market can really boost octane rating by a large amount. Vast majority only boost by a tiny amount.

 

You can get either numerous bottles of them or get RON98 (racing fuel also can but very expensive) and store in a Jerry can. Then add it to your RON91.

[Mona-vie]

Toulene and xylene are commonly used for octane booster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

 

You can get 18L tin at www.homely.com.sg

 

Actually, I am not sure if these commercial grades of toulene and xylene are good.

 

This is because there is no indication of the purity and what are other 'impurities' inside. Most of them are all quite poorly filtered (some cans can see particles floating around inside).

[Mona-vie]

I've in fact read a few motor forums. Some pro also saying that all these addictive is a waste of money and time. But so many ppl still using and some of them the price are not cheap too.

 

 

Some bros advice carrying a jellycan and fill in if happen to see the 95, but I find it quite troublesome. But if my manufacturer advice minimum pumping 91 Octane ( RON ), in this case I think shouldn't be a big problem only that the ride will not be as smooth as 95 or 98.

 

 

Pardon my noob question because I had only used once in my life ( the Octane booster ) on my previous CR-V and find nothing special on it!!!

 

 

Can anyone comment, I never use a 91 before, can I pump it? Will it condemn my engine?

 

Octane boosters does work provided your engine is pinging due to low petrol RON. Then adding it will resolve the problem. This is usually meant for high tuned cars. Eg. you tune your Evo, WRX to run high boost and RON98. then you go tracking at Sepang. You will need octane boosters as petrol in MY is RON97. Or else, you engine may ping and it can blow your engine. Of course, you can also bring your own fuel or detune (at some power loss) to run properly on MY fuel.

 

For normal cars, its not really needed and it will not really help at all. Its not a performance booster. It will not improve engine performance at all.

[Vega]

This is my personal experience when driving in MY. my ride can only take Ron98 and above but as you go deeper into MY, most stations only offer Ron95. what i did was to add toluene. about 5:1 ratio.

 

there was once, i forget to add after topping up. can feel the steering is very weird. like the car tires puncture and very retarded. after topping up with toluene, everything is fine. There was a R8 in our group that had the exact experience as mine when he also forget to add in toluene.

[Mona-vie]

This is my personal experience when driving in MY. my ride can only take Ron98 and above but as you go deeper into MY, most stations only offer Ron95. what i did was to add toluene. about 5:1 ratio.

 

there was once, i forget to add after topping up. can feel the steering is very weird. like the car tires puncture and very retarded. after topping up with toluene, everything is fine. There was a R8 in our group that had the exact experience as mine when he also forget to add in toluene.

 

Its like that one. The ECU will retard timing and change A/F ratio as it detects pinging/knocking.

 

If you are running aftermarket ECU, you can maybe keep a few maps and use them for different petrol grades. At least its easier than keeping toulene around.

 

Thats what I did back then. when go MY I will loan in another map meant for MY petrol.

[Vega]

Its like that one. The ECU will retard timing and change A/F ratio as it detects pinging/knocking.

 

If you are running aftermarket ECU, you can maybe keep a few maps and use them for different petrol grades. At least its easier than keeping toulene around.

 

Thats what I did back then. when go MY I will loan in another map meant for MY petrol.

 

i should have opt for the brand that allow me me to select back to stock map........

bringing along toluene on a road is really troublesome.......

[Acieed]

Which "manufacturer" said Gasohol is not allowed ? Tan Chong or Nissan Japan ?

[Shor]

Tan Chong Singapore said they cannot advice, so they call to Japan Nissan, and answer me back. Japan Nissan said, NOT ALLOWED!

 

 

 

 

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Which "manufacturer" said Gasohol is not allowed ? Tan Chong or Nissan Japan ?

 

[Mona-vie]

Tan Chong Singapore said they cannot advice, so they call to Japan Nissan, and answer me back. Japan Nissan said, NOT ALLOWED!

 

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Quite strange that its not allowed considering newer cars today should not have problems with ethanol content in the petrol.

 

Its only old cars that may have problems. Then I wonder how does Nissan sell cars to Europe and US since gasohol is widely available there?

 

[Shor]

I was puzzled also. Gasohol only introduced in the year 2005 . Older cars might not be suitable but I think newer cars shd be working fine. But since Japan already highlighted, NOT ALLOWED, I dont wanna take the risk filling it!!!!! My opinion, I dont think 10% of etanol adding into gasoline will do any harm BUT....................

 

 

 

Quite strange that its not allowed considering newer cars today should not have problems with ethanol content in the petrol.

 

Its only old cars that may have problems. Then I wonder how does Nissan sell cars to Europe and US since gasohol is widely available there?

 

[Mona-vie]

I was puzzled also. Gasohol only introduced in the year 2005 . Older cars might not be suitable but I think newer cars shd be working fine. But since Japan already highlighted, NOT ALLOWED, I dont wanna take the risk filling it!!!!! My opinion, I dont think 10% of etanol adding into gasoline will do any harm BUT....................

 

Since your car is under warranty, I don't recommend trying as it may void your warranty.

 

Also, I am not sure if its good to add ethanol. The problem is the ethanol itself, its purity and concentration (how much ethanol to water ratio). If there is too much water content in the ethanol, then it may cost combustion problems.

[Acieed]

What they really want to say is simply "We will not warranty against any potential issues from using fuel outside of Singapore" :-) It's the same excuse AD here like to say when you use alternative fluids. Their considerations probably would be that they cannot ensure the quality of the fuel outside of Singapore such that if its E85 or any bio-ethanol fuel more than 10% which are not always as compatible as E10 , and they do not have the expertise in Singapore to support for these cases. These would make business sense for Tan Chong even if Nissan Japan approves E10 -- which I believe they do. I wonder if they really ask Nissan Japan :)

 

My $0.02.

 

I was puzzled also. Gasohol only introduced in the year 2005 . Older cars might not be suitable but I think newer cars shd be working fine. But since Japan already highlighted, NOT ALLOWED, I dont wanna take the risk filling it!!!!! My opinion, I dont think 10% of etanol adding into gasoline will do any harm BUT....................

 

[Acieed]

Bro, why you mix water with ethanol to make E10 ? It's not medical ethanol or antiseptic leh ?

 

Since your car is under warranty, I don't recommend trying as it may void your warranty.

 

Also, I am not sure if its good to add ethanol. The problem is the ethanol itself, its purity and concentration (how much ethanol to water ratio). If there is too much water content in the ethanol, then it may cost combustion problems.