How problematic is VW's 7 speed DSG?

[Fuelsaver]

why did VW still making "dry" clutch?

How to admit to public or whole world that there's inherent issues arising fr such design (think of our bomb shelter)? Then oredi spent so much on r&d might as well mass market it. Not only vw - mercs, some k n j brand models, renault oso follow suit. Even super cars..

[Wt_know]

not to admit fcuk up la

just slowly mate all cars with wet clutch instead of dry

it's still a VW DSG ma ... where they are proud of their DSG

can say give customer value for money transmission

better clutch ... wet wet one ... LOL

Edited February 5, 2017 by Wt_know

[Audi2016]

not to admit fcuk up la

just slowly mate all cars with wet clutch instead of dry

it's still a VW DSG ma ... where they are proud of their DSG

can say give customer value for money transmission

better clutch ... wet wet one ... LOL

 

No.1 reason is cost.. the dry clutch DSG is used in most of its entry level offerings. The mid - high range use wet clutch ones. Save a bit per car, then imagine the volume of cars they move per year, the savings also quite substantial. Also, other concerns like oil consumption, being environmentally friendly, weight issues.

 

Also, if they change most if not all to wet clutch ones, that's like holding their hands up and admitting they fcuk up leh. Therefore, just avoid the dry clutch ones, should be fine. If still worried, sell before warranty ends lor 

How to admit to public or whole world that there's inherent issues arising fr such design (think of our bomb shelter)? Then oredi spent so much on r&d might as well mass market it. Not only vw - mercs, some k n j brand models, renault oso follow suit. Even super cars..

 

Those DCT in Korean / Japanese brand very little chance of finding them on our shores because those are implemented on mid range  / more sporty range and above for the respective brands.

 

We here buy mostly the entry level ones leh. Mostly CVT or autobox.

[merc280v6]

How to admit to public or whole world that there's inherent issues arising fr such design (think of our bomb shelter)? Then oredi spent so much on r&d might as well mass market it. Not only vw - mercs, some k n j brand models, renault oso follow suit. Even super cars..

[Johnny86]

No.1 reason is cost.. the dry clutch DSG is used in most of its entry level offerings. The mid - high range use wet clutch ones. Save a bit per car, then imagine the volume of cars they move per year, the savings also quite substantial. Also, other concerns like oil consumption, being environmentally friendly, weight issues.

 

Also, if they change most if not all to wet clutch ones, that's like holding their hands up and admitting they fcuk up leh. Therefore, just avoid the dry clutch ones, should be fine. If still worried, sell before warranty ends lor

 

 

Those DCT in Korean / Japanese brand very little chance of finding them on our shores because those are implemented on mid range / more sporty range and above for the respective brands.

 

We here buy mostly the entry level ones leh. Mostly CVT or autobox.

the Jap Korean hybrids come in DCT but not sure if they are the same Edited February 5, 2017 by Johnny86

[Fuelsaver]

No.1 reason is cost.. the dry clutch DSG is used in most of its entry level offerings. The mid - high range use wet clutch ones. Save a bit per car, then imagine the volume of cars they move per year, the savings also quite substantial. Also, other concerns like oil consumption, being environmentally friendly, weight issues.

 

Also, if they change most if not all to wet clutch ones, that's like holding their hands up and admitting they fcuk up leh. Therefore, just avoid the dry clutch ones, should be fine. If still worried, sell before warranty ends lor 

 

Those DCT in Korean / Japanese brand very little chance of finding them on our shores because those are implemented on mid range  / more sporty range and above for the respective brands.

 

We here buy mostly the entry level ones leh. Mostly CVT or autobox.

iirc, the performance / hybrid k-brands n some hybrid j-brands also adopting dual clutch.

 

for me, 1st choice gonna b 4/5/6at followed by cvt (if happened to be the car i finally buy)

the Jap Korean hybrids come in DCT but not sure if they are the same

all SE will tell u one thing - our dsg not the vw one, no problem!

 

then u go vw, the SE says, "dsg issue sorted out few yrs ago, no problem!"

 

so, no problem (is the real problem)..

sounds familiar? the real problem is not willing to admit there is one.

[Johnny86]

Well from a business/marketing point of view, if the DSG is 100% fixed they will definitely market it as such. Not just small press/media release seen before, but huge campaigns + extended DSG warranty with enough exclusions from normal wear.

Then price increase over the board to start milking those margins.

 

So far never seen any. Dual clutch may be the future of economical autos but man.....It's definitely teething like crazy

 

 

However what a potential buyer can learn from dry DSG owners who have few or no issues with them is how to drive a DSG and how best to do preventive maintenance for it. After all apart from luck, what's left is the human factor.

Edited February 5, 2017 by Johnny86

[Ssuperzonic]

Well from a business/marketing point of view, if the DSG is 100% fixed they will definitely market it as such. Not just small press/media release seen before, but huge campaigns + extended DSG warranty with enough exclusions from normal wear.

Then price increase over the board to start milking those margins.

 

So far never seen any. Dual clutch may be the future of economical autos but man.....It's definitely teething like crazy

 

 

However what a potential buyer can learn from dry DSG owners who have few or no issues with them is how to drive a DSG and how best to do preventive maintenance for it. After all apart from luck, what's left is the human factor.

Volkswagen Malaysia announced a DSG warranty extension. Seems like a big confidence booster to VW owners there. If only similar warranty is provided to VW owners in Singapore.

 

http://paultan.org/2017/01/24/vw-in-malaysia-2017-is-about-building-brand-trust/

[Wt_know]

singapore car owners are bao jiak one ... tan ku ku

 

Volkswagen Malaysia announced a DSG warranty extension. Seems like a big confidence booster to VW owners there. If only similar warranty is provided to VW owners in Singapore.

http://paultan.org/2017/01/24/vw-in-malaysia-2017-is-about-building-brand-trust/

 

Edited February 5, 2017 by Wt_know

[F355]

Volkswagen Malaysia announced a DSG warranty extension. Seems like a big confidence booster to VW owners there. If only similar warranty is provided to VW owners in Singapore.

 

http://paultan.org/2017/01/24/vw-in-malaysia-2017-is-about-building-brand-trust/

 

Give you warranty extension , but for warranty to be valid you need to go back to their workshop do servicing , then they carrot you.

 

LPPL.

 

Smart move . 

[Hamburger]

Truth be told. Warranty is not valid if one chose to service outside.

 

Like that is like have and don't have aka LPPL.

[inlinesix]

singapore car owners are bao jiak one ... tan ku ku

 

Because a lot of gong gong car owner here mah.

 

In Malaysia, VW owner hold picket outside VW office le.

 

In Singapore, VW owner don't even dare to hold picket in Hong Lim Park.

[Theoldjaffa]

Because a lot of gong gong car owner here mah.

 

In Malaysia, VW owner hold picket outside VW office le.

 

In Singapore, VW owner don't even dare to hold picket in Hong Lim Park.

Malaysia is boleh!

 

Singapore is bo leh (don't have, leh)

[ER-3682]

Because a lot of gong gong car owner here mah.

 

In Malaysia, VW owner hold picket outside VW office le.

 

In Singapore, VW owner don't even dare to hold picket in Hong Lim Park.

No one dares....wait go "Changi Chalets" for a few Weeks,also nobody wanted to hammer a almost new VW in front of their Showroom to protest.....in Korea,the owner used a Hammer the smash his almost new Mercedes Benz AMG S55  ....for the problems that cannot settle by the Agent.

[inlinesix]

No one dares....wait go "Changi Chalets" for a few Weeks,also nobody wanted to hammer a almost new VW in front of their Showroom to protest.....in Korea,the owner used a Hammer the smash his almost new Mercedes Benz AMG S55  ....for the problems that cannot settle by the Agent.

 

In Singapore, only Hong Lim Park can do picket.  Go Hong Lim no wrong what.

[Beregond]

Give you warranty extension , but for warranty to be valid you need to go back to their workshop do servicing , then they carrot you.

 

LPPL.

 

Smart move . 

actually gear box dun need go back servicing also should be under warrently.

they say the oil is life time,dun need replacement, so no mainteance.

 

so going back for basic servicing or not, wat does it got to do with gearbox breakdown?

[Karu]

actually gear box dun need go back servicing also should be under warrently.

they say the oil is life time,dun need replacement, so no mainteance.

 

so going back for basic servicing or not, wat does it got to do with gearbox breakdown?

 

Not true...When I sent my ex-car in for juddering, they saw my external workshop servicing label & commented that by right, they will not honor warranty on cars that were serviced outside. I kpkb & asked them to look at my 'fabulous' clutch replacement records then they relented.  

[Notsogoodman]

actually gear box dun need go back servicing also should be under warrently.

they say the oil is life time,dun need replacement, so no mainteance.

 

so going back for basic servicing or not, wat does it got to do with gearbox breakdown?

What is lifetime? Lifetime of the gearbox? So when gearbox kaput, the reason is it has reached its end of life