Kangadrool Supersonic February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 our IU already link to our vehicle number. that is why if no pay ERP they know within 1 week and send summon. Simi logic neh? I use car, charge. I don't use car, also charge (summon for not using car). Going overseas how? Car in workshop ICU how? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bystander50 5th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 USA can switch off GPS anytime or during war. Also many will blame it on the poor GPS signal when they cheat. I foresee a headache for the LTA to answer to all the loopholes tricks blaming fully on the GPS signals which NO ONE can guarantee. The worst backup measure they can implement is to allocate a certain range of mobile number to this thing. A SIM card is integrated into the device, when something funny happens, it calls home and updates the error message on the IU. next thing LTA send u or kong letter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curahee 1st Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 It says that the new system may charge motorists according to where they go and how much distances they clock?! Sounds like those car sharing scheme, also charge by the total distance covered?! I feel it sound more like taking a taxi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scb11980 1st Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 basket waste so much money on how to make citizen pay using satellite why not spend this money on improving public transport system better still, use satellite to make the buses travel more efficiently by tagging them make them closer interval during peak hours the stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 Simi logic neh? I use car, charge. I don't use car, also charge (summon for not using car). Going overseas how? Car in workshop ICU how? you ask me i also boh pian i cannot change anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean6576 4th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 The new system may charge motorists according to where they go and how much distances they clock. Then pay road tax for what? :angry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 It will never work because you can disconnect the fuse, while using the car. Even so, you can wrap aluminum foil around the unit to cut out the GPS signal. There will be a lot of potential loopholes. And gov will have to enact alot more laws to prevent people from abusing the loopholes. Having said that....I am really looking forward to zero ARF and COE, and charged based on per use basis. The current one time payment, reduces the 'pain' and 'burden' that car owners feels while on the road; meaning already paid so much, die die use the car everyday everywhere. When change to daily charges, people will feel the direct 'pain' for 365 days. Just like when petrol price hike up, people will feel the pain when refueling and try to drive less aggressively to save fuel. If the distance basEd ERP is charged directly from the cash card every time, the 'pain' is felt everyday, which is very effective to control the driving habits. Can... Why not.... As usual, they will chut the pattern where any car found to have made such modification to thwart the detection will be severely fined. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 Actually the easiest way is to install a tamper-proof mileage monitoring kit on the car. Pay base on mileage. When that happens, I can imagine a lot of ppl will chope as low as possible MSCP lot.... haha.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenMob 6th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 If they are charging by distance , those parking cannot make it guys reverse here reverse there from and back, and finding lots in a crowded place will they be charged also? damn them , wanna make money just screw those dogs make them pay staying overseas tax better profit than cars since there are so many of them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 If they are charging by distance , those parking cannot make it guys reverse here reverse there from and back, and finding lots in a crowded place will they be charged also? damn them , wanna make money just screw those dogs make them pay staying overseas tax better profit than cars since there are so many of them now. When that happens, parking will need 2 person. One person walk around to look for a lot and stand at the lot to chope the place and call the driver to drive over.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 basket waste so much money on how to make citizen pay using satellite why not spend this money on improving public transport system better still, use satellite to make the buses travel more efficiently by tagging them make them closer interval during peak hours the stupidity Thought they are now spending money on improving public transport system by buying buses?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified 1st Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 fxck this government!!! make them pay for their tyrannies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified 1st Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 Thought they are now spending money on improving public transport system by buying buses?! using tax payer money to buy new buses!!and later on increasing the fares. using tax payer money to buy new technology!and later on suck MORE money from motorists. very GOOD INVESTMENT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009k Neutral Newbie February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 Why so concerned???? There is a simple way to avoid all the painful taxation. It's also not much sweat, just cross out a box nicely and it will make a big difference... As for the satellite we floated to space, we can always use it to receive free World Cup telecast and skip the telcos... 2016 Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 (edited) They should scrap ALL other taxes (including COE) so that cars become as cheap to buy as in the US. Then charge *big time* for actual road usage via this system. That's the only scenario in which I'll support this initiative. This should NOT be an additional source of revenue for them. If they price it right, then the system will be revenue neutral for them, at least initially - until people almost stop driving entirely. But that's what they ultimately want, right? Edited February 28, 2012 by Turboflat4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz0608 3rd Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 They should scrap ALL other taxes (including COE) so that cars become as cheap to buy as in the US. Then charge *big time* for actual road usage via this system. That's the only scenario in which I'll support this initiative. This should NOT be an additional source of revenue for them. If they price it right, then the system will be revenue neutral for them, at least initially - until people almost stop driving entirely. But that's what they ultimately want, right? Then existing car owner who pay sky high price for their COE how? Refund? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scb11980 1st Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 these are mine thoughts on this issue 1. government planning to charge by per km or even per 100m when the satellite comes into service, this will be disguise as monitoring traffic flow 2. government is going to act blur about the existence of road tax, COE and GST it involves, when their function was to ensure reasonable car population on the road 3. some government body or individuals connected to the government has invested in this technology, so it will be public money to government to selective favored individual or company (this is just a conspiracy theory) i just dont get why we pay millions of dollars to ministers to think of all this convoluted ways (expensive to tax payers) just to reduce the car the population on the road - build better public transport system - if public transport system is so easy to use, comfortable and convenient - cheap also, do think many would not change from traveling in private car to public transport what a bunch of ............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiadaw 6th Gear February 28, 2012 Share February 28, 2012 (edited) I think U.K or some other country they try to implement some kind of GPS tracking system something like this, & many people KPKB about inflictment of privacy , & government scraped the idea. See the differences between other people & us. Its us that allow the FT policy, despite what many think otherwise, the huge increase in housing cost, & soon, for government to be able to track our every location. When we made a choice, or not made a choice, we also responisble for the consequences of our choice. Edited February 28, 2012 by Kiadaw ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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