Territorial claims in South China Sea

[Kb27]

If Trump wins the election, he builds a physical wall to keep the Mexicans out.

He builds an economic wall to keep PRC out, American MNCs are forced to relocate from PRC.

Millions of PRC workers are out of jobs.

 

PRC, like Imperial Japan, starts to claim and expand.

 

Maybe it'll start WW3.

[BanCoe]

Will the COE price be in anyway affected by the Verdick?? 

 

 

[Thaiyotakamli]

If Trump wins the election, he builds a physical wall to keep the Mexicans out.

He builds an economic wall to keep PRC out, American MNCs are forced to relocate from PRC.

Millions of PRC workers are out of jobs.

 

PRC, like Imperial Japan, starts to claim and expand.

 

Maybe it'll start WW3.

No such thing la

 

 

Why those MNCs need to listen to Trump? Going back to USA cost more to them end up no profit. Might as well set up new company in china, shift all existing capital to new co. Usa cant do anything to them.

 

And even if become reality, china will ask usa to return his debt immediately or else foreclosure GLCs haha

Will the COE price be in anyway affected by the Verdick??

If it goes south, govt will push north and vice versa

[Civic2000]

Straits Times: S'pore, China clearer on each other's position

SINGAPORE and China have had deep and frank talks on the South China Sea territorial disputes and now better understand each other's position, Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam said yesterday.

He noted that during Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's visit to China last week, Mr Lee had long discussions with Chinese leaders. These were followed by bilateral consultations between Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister Fu Ying and Mr Shanmugam in Singapore on Saturday.

"I think the visit, as well as the bilateral consultations, has allowed us to get a better perspective on China's position and for China to get a better perspective on our position," he said in an interview with local media.

He said that Singapore has not taken sides in the overlapping claims that China has with four Asean states, namely, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei, over waters rich in fishing and energy resources.

"We have always said the claims are for the claimant states to settle, Asean should be neutral, and certainly Singapore has always been and continues to be neutral on the claims," he said.

Asean's role, he said, was in "the broader setting of a framework which would allow for a peaceful resolution of these claims". He gave by way of example Asean having a role in formulating the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea - to prevent escalation of disputes in the waters.

Ms Fu, in her interview with Singapore media, said Asean's role was in ensuring peace and stability in the region and that it should stay neutral.

Singapore and China's discussions have taken place as tension in the region escalated in recent months, including a naval stand- off between China and the Philippines.

Temperatures have also risen further north between China and Japan over the disputed Diaoyu islands - Senkaku to the Japanese - with the Chinese angry over Tokyo's decision to buy the islands from their private owners.

Mr Shanmugam said yesterday while Singapore was not a claimant state in the South China Sea, "we have every interest in wanting the disputes to be resolved in as peaceful a way as possible".

He noted that China recognises that peace and stability are essential for it to continue to develop, so it wants these as much as anyone else. China and Singapore have agreed to work closely on these matters, he said.

 

[BanCoe]

No such thing la

 

 

Why those MNCs need to listen to Trump? Going back to USA cost more to them end up no profit. Might as well set up new company in china, shift all existing capital to new co. Usa cant do anything to them.

 

And even if become reality, china will ask usa to return his debt immediately or else foreclosure GLCs haha

If it goes south, govt will push north and vice versa

Wow.... even Coe got territorial claim one , got North and South see like got  "mood one" I guess right now its hovering on the equator maybe for quite some time 

[Civic2000]

The U.S. is one of the most vocal countries urging China to hew to international arbitration in the vital waterway. Beijing isn't impressed.

 

A great power refuses to play by international rules, declining to ratify a major U.N. convention to which more than 160 other countries are party. After years of complaints, the nation convinces the U.N. to tweak the treaty to many of its specifications. Yet even after those amendments, the great power’s legislature prioritizes protectionist sentiment over respect for global rule of law.

 

This renegade country, though, is not China, which has come under fire for saying it will flout an upcoming U.N. court decision on its territorial claims in the South China Sea. Instead, the longtime outlier is the U.S., one of the most vocal countries urging China to hew to the international order.

http://time.com/4397808/south-china-sea-us-unclos/

 

 

 

[Vratenza]

China will ask USA to settle N.Korea first before try to meddle with South China Sea.....

 

The U.S. is one of the most vocal countries urging China to hew to international arbitration in the vital waterway. Beijing isn't impressed.

 

A great power refuses to play by international rules, declining to ratify a major U.N. convention to which more than 160 other countries are party. After years of complaints, the nation convinces the U.N. to tweak the treaty to many of its specifications. Yet even after those amendments, the great power’s legislature prioritizes protectionist sentiment over respect for global rule of law.

 

This renegade country, though, is not China, which has come under fire for saying it will flout an upcoming U.N. court decision on its territorial claims in the South China Sea. Instead, the longtime outlier is the U.S., one of the most vocal countries urging China to hew to the international order.

http://time.com/4397808/south-china-sea-us-unclos/

 

 

 

 

[Wishcumstrue]

Guys guys guys.......... There is a reason why the area in dispute is not called

 

West Phillipines Sea

East Malaysia Sea

East Vietnam Sea

North Brunei Sea

North Indonesia Sea

 

 

Those new names never existed in international map until later 20th century.

 

Yet, in a 1947 US map already show this - Which was based on Qing era map.

 

 

 

 

So when I see how South China Sea suddenly being cut into so many parts and pieces by all these new claimants, I feel sad.

 

Can't we just work out the differences regionally, learn to get along and share the resources rather than exploiting some UN rules and law for their own benefit?

 

 

 

uyyu

Edited July 12, 2016 by Wishcumstrue

[BenTong]

haiya.. as long as they appoint LTA or PSA to put up ERP gantries and managethem can dy la ..for Spore..

Edited July 12, 2016 by BenTong

[Kusje]

No such thing la

 

 

Why those MNCs need to listen to Trump? Going back to USA cost more to them end up no profit. Might as well set up new company in china, shift all existing capital to new co. Usa cant do anything to them.

 

And even if become reality, china will ask usa to return his debt immediately or else foreclosure GLCs haha

If it goes south, govt will push north and vice versa

 

USA got what GLCs?

[Beregond]

all along US stand since the pause of korean war is not to settle north korea.

but status quo.

the merge of korea mean 1 less bargaining levelage with china and russia.

 

same as the tawian issue.

 they dun not want tawian to gain independent

nor they want to see tawian merge with china.

 

status quo mean forever got bargaining levelage, and billions from weapons sales

China will ask USA to settle N.Korea first before try to meddle with South China Sea.....

 

 

[Wyfitms]

[Mockngbrd]

No legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources in sea areas within 'nine-dash line': Arbitral tribunal ruling

 

 

In a landmark ruling on Tuesday (July 12), an arbitral tribunal concluded that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources within the sea areas falling within its 'nine-dash line.

China has no “historic title” over waters of South China Sea, the tribunal said.

 

 

 

 

Farge u chinea

 

 

 

meanwhile...
 

JUST IN: China’s Xinhua says AMDK court has issued “ill-founded award” on South China Sea

China's state-run Xinhua news agency said on Tuesday (Jul 12) that the "law-abusing tribunal" hearing a case about the disputed South China Sea had issued an "ill-founded award".
It gave no other details.
An arbitration court in The Hague will rule on Tuesday in a dispute about the South China Sea in which the Philippines is challenging China's right to exploit resources across vast swathes of the waters.

 

Edited July 12, 2016 by Mockngbrd

[Carnoob]

And so begins the military operations...

[inlinesix]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/philippines-wins-south-china-sea-case-against-china

 

Philippines wins South China Sea case against China

[Myxilplix]

Got use meh? China take the ruling to wipe backside only.

[Rncw]

even before, china said boh chap any court results...so many countries fighting for the waters....let singapore manage the area and give dividends to all with claims....

[Spring]

 

Straits Times: S'pore, China clearer on each other's position

SINGAPORE and China have had deep and frank talks on the South China Sea territorial disputes and now better understand each other's position, Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam said yesterday.

 

Is this report right?

Singapore's Foreign Minister is Vivian Balakrishnan and not K. Shanmugam!!