Best use of KrisFlyer miles

[Kusje]

Quick question.

 

For bookings made under group via tour agency - is it eligible to earn miles?

 

I can't seem to get info online.

 

Any insights appreciated.

 

SIA? Answer is yes and same for biz trips where company books for you.

 

Create a krisflyer account:

 

1. When checking in, tell the counter to credit to your account

2. If you forget, you can log into the account after the flight and input the flight details for the missing miles

[Wildfaye29]

@Kusje thanks.

 

My child is going on an overseas sch trip but the school says the vendor says group bookings not eligible to earn miles.

[Kusje]

@Kusje thanks.

 

My child is going on an overseas sch trip but the school says the vendor says group bookings not eligible to earn miles.

Afaik, should be possible. But of course, cheap tickets get fewer miles.

[Mcf777]

Quick question.

 

For bookings made under group via tour agency - is it eligible to earn miles?

 

I can't seem to get info online.

 

Any insights appreciated.

 

That depends on the ticket level (I mean booking category of the air-ticket)

Usually for school outing, it is booked under "G" (Group) Class. Not allow to claim miles.

Keep both ways boarding pass, when you are back in SIN, log-in Krisflyer and do accural miles.

See whether do they allow to claim miles.

 

14 types of Economy class category

Those highlighted in RED (Economy class) and BLUE (Premium Economy class)

https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/pdf/ppsclub_krisflyer/charts/KFOALLevels.pdf

K, V Class : 10% miles

N,Q Class : 50% miles

B,E,H,L,M,W,Y class : 100% miles

P,S,T Class : 110% miles

 

20May - Singapore to Hongkong

1   SQ 002  F4 A3 Z9 C4 UL DL S9 /SIN 3 HKG 1  1830    2215  E0/77W       3:45

             T9 P9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 W9 Q9 N9 V9 LL K9

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by Mcf777

[Wildfaye29]

@kusje @mcf777

 

Thanks both!

 

The travel agent got back and said it's a very special fare for students hence not eligible.

 

Sob.

[Boringchap]

To earn substantial KF miles, need to spend a lot on those credit cards that accummulate miles. 

 

Or if you fly for corporate travel, usually they let you keep the miles.  Then you can use them. 

[Angcheek]

And rem it expires every yr ... sinkapore a great way to fly (ur money)

[Boringchap]

And rem it expires every yr ... sinkapore a great way to fly (ur money)

 

Expiry is 3 years from the date they are credited.  

[Angcheek]

Expiry is 3 years from the date they are credited.

Oh its the status that expire every yr ?

[Boringchap]

Oh its the status that expire every yr ?

 

Oh, you mean KrisFlyer Elite Silver, Krisflyer Elite Gold status?  Yes, that is only valid for a year, and if you don't chalk up enough travel on SQ, then it won't be renewed.  I think this practice is common in the Airline industry. 

[Jumpmanz]

Anyone redeem miles for narita/tokyo on SQ business before?

[Mcf777]

Anyone redeem miles for narita/tokyo on SQ business before?

 

yes, many times to Japan.

FUK, HND, NRT, NGO, KIX.

but i booked 350+ days in advance to secure 3-4 seats each time.

usually the 4th seat not easy to get. sometimes have to pay double miles.

[Boringchap]

yes, many times to Japan.

FUK, HND, NRT, NGO, KIX.

but i booked 350+ days in advance to secure 3-4 seats each time.

usually the 4th seat not easy to get. sometimes have to pay double miles.

 

Good use of miles! 

[Civic2000]

Singaporean woman loses 76,000 KrisFlyer miles, SIA investigating matter, suspects due to possible phishing

 

Singapore Airlines said it's aware that some KrisFlyer member accounts "may have been compromised due to possible phishing".

 

On 15th April 2018, Sherie Low logged into her KrisFlyer account and to her horror, discovered that the bulk of her frequent flyer miles had been wiped out under the names of four Russian individuals who were completely unacquainted with her.

Only 769 miles were available out of the supposedly 76,769 miles she should have possessed.

The 34-year-old general manager said she first registered for an account on Singapore Airlines (SIA)’s frequent flyer programme 10 years ago. The last time she logged into her account to redeem miles was in mid-March 2018.

In the aftermath of her logging in, four redemptions were made for Lufthansa flights from Frankfurt, Germany to Saint Petersburg at 12,500 miles each, and another 26,000 miles were converted to points for Virgin Australia’s Velocity frequent flyer programme. This took place between 24th March 2018 and 25th Mar 2018,

 

The redemptions were made under the names of four individuals – Ms Kseniia Migel, Mrs Elena Migel, Mr Matvei Kotliar and Mr Andrei Migel who were all holding Russian passports. From the reflected account, all four had been added as nominees to Low’s account on 23rd March 2018, just a day before they started making redemptions.

KrisFlyer nominees are allowed to use a member’s miles to redeem tickets and flight upgrades.

Ms Low immediately dialed the KrisFlyer hotline upon seeing the suspicious transactions.

SIA’s representatives said they did not want to give her “false hope” that she would get her miles back and could not give her a deadline for the investigation, according to Low.

SIA further assured her that their investigation team would get back to her within 24 hours, but only called back the next day to “reiterate the same thing” which was that “they don’t want to give me false hope”, added Low.

Detaled reports @ http://www.thelocalsociety.com/singaporean-woman-loses-76000-krisflyer-miles-sia-investigating-matter-suspects-due-to-possible-phishing/

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Boringchap]

There is no 2FA protection. Somebody must have stolen her Log in details and proceeded to make all the redemptions.

[Mcf777]

Anyone got any idea what is the link for the Dark website?

 

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sias-krisflyer-miles-sold-on-the-dark-web?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#Echobox=1537873872

 

SINGAPORE - Stolen frequent flier miles are being sold on the Dark Web at a fraction of their real world cost, a study found.

Among the stolen miles being advertised are those under Singapore Airlines' KrisFlyer programme, according to research firm Comparitech.

Other miles for membership programmes apparently being hawked by vendors include those for Emirates Skywards, Delta Skymiles and up to 15 others.

The typical asking price across advertisements for most membership programmes' points is about US$884 (S$1,207) for 100,000 miles.

This is about 40 per cent cheaper than the "real world" value of frequent flier miles, according to Comparitech's privacy expert Paul Bischoff.

He said that depending on the rewards and redemption programme, each mile or point is typically worth between one and two US cents. Assuming that one mile is valued at 1.5 US cents, the total "real world" worth of 100,000 miles would be US$1,500.

"There's a black market for your frequent flier miles. Stolen frequent flier accounts and rewards points are a hot commodity on the dark net," Mr Bischoff wrote in the study.

According to Singapore Airline's (SIA) website, a round trip to London costs 76,000 KrisFlyer miles for an economy saver award ticket. The price for a round trip taken in December this year for non-discounted tickets starts from about S$1,400.

The Dark Web is a part of the Internet that can be accessed only with special software and can host illicit goods and services.

Mr Bischoff told The Straits Times that researchers found 27 unique listings for stolen frequent flier points across three different Dark Web marketplaces.

He said these stolen airline miles are not spent on actual airfare or hotel bookings as these purchases require proof of identity. Instead they are used for transactions that do not need identity verification, such as redemptions at participating retailers.

Mr Bischoff said: "Due to the lack of verification, frequent flier miles have become a profitable target for hackers and thieves. And because most of us don't use or check our frequent flier accounts very often, the theft can go unnoticed for months."

According to the study, there are a few ways to purchase the points, either by buying a hacked account or getting the miles credited into a new or existing account.

Hackers get access to these points by breaking into legitimate accounts. They can obtain usernames and passwords through various means like breaching data servers or phishing individual account holders.

Buying a hacked account is more common and cheaper, said Mr Bischoff. With this method, buyers are given the necessary log-in information and they transfer the miles to another account themselves or redeem the rewards directly.

Another option, which is more costly, would be for buyers to get the miles credited into an existing or new account.

"The buyer is then free to spend the points without worrying about the original account holder discovering their presence," said Mr Bischoff, adding that this was generally the kind of listing found for KrisFlyer miles.

An SIA spokesman said there has been a "very limited number" of cases where points have been stolen from KrisFlyer accounts.

When they are detected, SIA said it monitors these accounts closely and works with the relevant authorities in their investigations.

"We take all reasonable measures to ensure that KrisFlyer accounts remain safe and protected, and carry out regular reviews to continue providing a secure online user platform for our customers," said the spokesman.

It added that KrisFlyer memberships cannot be transferred, sold or bartered, and a pooling of miles is not permitted.

KrisFlyer miles can only be converted if members link their account with a partner programme in their KrisFlyer membership profile. Each KrisFlyer membership account can only be linked to one individual account for each partner programme, and both accounts must have identical names and date of birth, said the spokesman.

In June this year, SIA implemented two-factor authentication (2FA) for certain KrisFlyer online transactions to improve security.

When 2FA is required, a numeric one-time-password will be sent to the mobile number or e-mail registered.

An SIA spokesman said it encouraged members to protect themselves by using reliable anti-virus programs and only logging into their KrisFlyer accounts using the official SIA website.

"We encourage all members to safeguard their KrisFlyer accounts by regularly changing their account password and promptly alerting Singapore Airlines of any abnormal activities observed in their KrisFlyer accounts."