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Look at the middle sentence, although it is related to smrt issue and is posted by goh meng seng on Facebook.

 

If lhl and his team can look more deeply on how different government agencies run.. The middle sentence resembles it. It is not only time consuming to submit proposals, it also waste of resources. Imagine submit proposals need MANY layers of approval. How to make things going Sia? Worst is if it involved many different agencies, the time it took to settle things even worst.

 

Anyone remember the yishun mrt shelter that LBH that was proposing to construct was going no where and complained in parliament? Different agencies are all pushing around, because of fire safety issue and etc, things cannot get going. End up after it was voiced out in parliament then different agencies finally worked together and build the yishun mrt shelter to hdb block in no time.

 

So yeah.. Before rise taxes first, PLEASE look into internal processes and see wher can streamline 1st especially the workings before different agencies. *100% there will be a lot of things that need not so many layers of approval but because of Kia si end up a lot layers and become a waste of time and money. Those little thing add up make people very busy and unable to do other better things.

 

GMS to me is a joker. He ask Dr chee from sdp to step down, tell lhl to step down from being pm and dunno who else to step down also. He got the cheek to tell ppl his daugther enjoying studies and healthcare benefits in HK. How patriotic. When Sgporeans are in need of help where is this roadside critic? Talking c0ck behind his computer? Will ppl look up to this kinda joker? What has he done to contribute to the Sgp ppl?

 

Want me to listen to him? I rather go sleep.

 

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GMS to me is a joker. He ask Dr chee from sdp to step down, tell lhl to step down from being pm and dunno who else to step down also. He got the cheek to tell ppl his daugther enjoying studies and healthcare benefits in HK. How patriotic. When Sgporeans are in need of help where is this roadside critic? Talking c0ck behind his computer? Will ppl look up to this kinda joker? What has he done to contribute to the Sgp ppl?

 

Want me to listen to him? I rather go sleep.

 

Ya.. Heng he not an mp, but there are still some learning points from his post. Just be selective and pick the right one.. Haha

 

By the way I think different agencies already bucked up Lao. Like for example, the custom side, now very strict on the toll payment and will send letter to pay for the toll fee plus administration fee. Now is no revenue leakage. This is one step forward.. But lsl still never consider how painful it is to work with different agencies that slows things down and waste of resources. So this should be the next tackle. How to reduce the number of layers for approval and better processes for multi agencies working together.

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Not sure if i remembered wrongly, but during last GE, the PAP team mentioned that there will be no increase in GST, so means expect increase in other areas.

i also remember that some garment people suggest / recommend peasant to spend within the means, buy smaller flat if cannot afford big ones; and take MRT instead of buying cars, but why ownself want to overspend ?

I suspect increase in property tax, especially non-owner occupied properties. Hope it’s not capital gains tax!

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Ya.. Heng he not an mp, but there are still some learning points from his post. Just be selective and pick the right one.. Haha

 

I also know how to criticise. Don't even have to form an opposition party just to do so.

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Well, otherwise how are they able to feed their relatives, uncles, aunties, cousins, in-laws, sons, daughters, f buddies, etc, etc etc??

 

for a start....

 

the obscene amount spent on PA, is it spent for the national interest or for party ?

The free ride given to all the FT scholarships, benefit who?

The untold amounts spent on SMRT... privatising profits socialising cost..?

All the mayors, our presidents, are they necessary at all for the amounts they consume?

A lot of money spent in our names have ulterior motives behind.... its like a man saying the family must cut down... but his car expenses include fetching his mistress, his housing expenses include ONS at hotels, his food expenses include buying drinks for his buddies at night clubs. etc

 

They like to cherry pick issues, hide and confuse, before saying we need to impose higher taxes, current spending and practices must be thoroughly reviewed.

 

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Most countries have red tape.

 

Ours is white tape?

simi colour tape also have la... to garment, following procedure is more important than efficiency...
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Please raise straight to 15% and also increase your salaries by 50% with additional 5 months bonus. Quality of our ministers has been poor so logically it means we have not paying them enough and that's why we get such shit work.

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knn smlj

 

he know now outside market how bad or not.

every 1 is talking about, dun even need to think got profit, 

can break even most company are very happy already.

 

and he want to raise taxes 

[thumbsdown]

 

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Minister job is gold rice bowl. Good or bad economy, they continue to get their millions. I should have studied harder :darkmood:


Do right do wrong also nobody bother... as long as know how to keep quiet


and play taichi ...

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I hope lsl to see where else can further reduce government spending leh. It is big government that will become a problem. The bigger the government, the more money is needed to fund the government. So where to get more money? Increase taxes lor. Like that how? Cost of leaving further increase and lower and middle income group will suffer more.

 

I am not talking about ministers salary, but more to processes and chain of command, to see where can cut down or reduce or streamline to make things more efficient. This one confirm can save quite a bit of money.

Actually it's not just about the spendings within the ministries. Cutting the salaries of those highly paid ministers, including the PM and President will have the country and tax payers save significant costs every year for more crucial problems of the country.

The benchmark for the ministers salaries have been set too high for the past decade.

 

The benchmark is certainly set too high based on the country's top earners. "median income of the top 1,000 earners who are Singaporean citizens, with a 40 per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service."

 

No wonder the govt keeps increasing the number of ultra rich people here in the past 10 years. This benchmark is set unrealistically with the ultra rich and out of context as the country as a whole and the global political field.

 

Setting a fairer and more performance based approach as the country overall for these ministers' salaries.

 

- Median income of the top 1,740,000 earners who are Singaporean citizens, out of the 5.8 million population now. If the population increases, the number of top earners increases (e.g 30% of top earners who are Singapore citizens.) E.g. 6.5 million, using 1.95 million top earners. If they increase the population, they have to set the benchmark against more people.

 

- 40 (for example) per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service. Discount to be adjusted accordingly to the average percentage of all the top global political leaders in the developed nations. This is to reflect the pay structure fairly against the field of politicians globally.

 

In addition,

- it has to be adjusted accordingly to the average inflation rate for the past 5 years.

 

- adjusted according to the yearly budget. If the year's budget is set 20 percent lower than last year, the salaries have to adjusted downwards by 20 percent, to reflect the performance of the economy as well based on the budget. If it is set higher, the salary may only increase the most by 0.01% of the percentage of budget increase. E.g the budget increase by 10%. Salary increase at most be 0.01%*10*minister salary

 

- an independent party from the govt to keep track and monitor the benchmark. This party may not be from Singapore but a legal party that will not be biased in their reviews.

 

There may be better ideas from you guys to make it better and so please share your inputs if you can.

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knn smlj

 

he know now outside market how bad or not.

every 1 is talking about, dun even need to think got profit, 

can break even most company are very happy already.

 

and he want to raise taxes 

[thumbsdown]

 

I'm sure he knows how bad it is. Maybe their businesses are doing badly also  [thumbsdown]

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Actually it's not just about the spendings within the ministries. Cutting the salaries of those highly paid ministers, including the PM and President will have the country and tax payers save significant costs every year for more crucial problems of the country.

The benchmark for the ministers salaries have been set too high for the past decade.

 

The benchmark is certainly set too high based on the country's top earners. "median income of the top 1,000 earners who are Singaporean citizens, with a 40 per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service."

 

No wonder the govt keeps increasing the number of ultra rich people here in the past 10 years. This benchmark is set unrealistically with the ultra rich and out of context as the country as a whole and the global political field.

 

Setting a fairer and more performance based approach as the country overall for these ministers' salaries.

 

- Median income of the top 1,740,000 earners who are Singaporean citizens, out of the 5.8 million population now. If the population increases, the number of top earners increases (e.g 30% of top earners who are Singapore citizens.) E.g. 6.5 million, using 1.95 million top earners. If they increase the population, they have to set the benchmark against more people.

 

- 40 (for example) per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service. Discount to be adjusted accordingly to the average percentage of all the top global political leaders in the developed nations. This is to reflect the pay structure fairly against the field of politicians globally.

 

In addition,

- it has to be adjusted accordingly to the average inflation rate for the past 5 years.

 

- adjusted according to the yearly budget. If the year's budget is set 20 percent lower than last year, the salaries have to adjusted downwards by 20 percent, to reflect the performance of the economy as well based on the budget. If it is set higher, the salary may only increase the most by 0.01% of the percentage of budget increase. E.g the budget increase by 10%. Salary increase at most be 0.01%*10*minister salary

 

- an independent party from the govt to keep track and monitor the benchmark. This party may not be from Singapore but a legal party that will not be biased in their reviews.

 

There may be better ideas from you guys to make it better and so please share your inputs if you can.

actually now is the time for the president to speak out for the ppl.

 

that y we need a president, its to cover the ppl over any bad decision by the government, esp over finance side.

 

if not we need her there for wat..

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- 40 (for example) per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service. Discount to be adjusted accordingly to the average percentage of all the top global political leaders in the developed nations. This is to reflect the pay structure fairly against the field of politicians globally.

 

 

Are you trying to raid their reserves?!

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actually now is the time for the president to speak out for the ppl.

 

that y we need a president, its to cover the ppl over any bad decision by the government, esp over finance side.

 

if not we vote him there for wat..

 

You voted for who as president? 

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actually now is the time for the president to speak out for the ppl.

 

that y we need a president, its to cover the ppl over any bad decision by the government, esp over finance side.

 

if not we need her there for wat..

only one President would do this... RIP...
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Are you trying to raid their reserves?!

What has the reserves got to do with their salaries?

Please read this again.

 

"- 40 (for example) per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service. Discount to be adjusted accordingly to the average percentage of all the top global political leaders in the developed nations. This is to reflect the pay structure fairly against the field of politicians globally."

 

The current salary is based on the top median income earners and then 40% cut/discount for their role in politics.

 

However cut/discount should be more than the current 40% cut and in line with the pay structure of global leaders.

Unless you are telling me they are using the reserves to make up for the cuts?

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What has the reserves got to do with their salaries?

Please read this again.

 

"- 40 (for example) per cent discount to reflect the ethos of political service. Discount to be adjusted accordingly to the average percentage of all the top global political leaders in the developed nations. This is to reflect the pay structure fairly against the field of politicians globally."

 

The current salary is based on the top median income earners and then 40% cut/discount for their role in politics.

 

However cut/discount should be more than the current 40% cut and in line with the pay structure of global leaders.

Unless you are telling me they are using the reserves to make up for the cuts?

 

I didn't say THE/OUR reserves (our money).

 

I said their reserves (their piggy bank).

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