It's a Bad Sport Car or Super Lousy Driver ?

[2BDriver]

Can anyone explain why a Ferrari spins that easily with wide tyres ?

My guess are :

1) Engine Horse Power against car Weight is poorly unbalance ?

2) Front Wheel Drive over-powerful against precise steering control ?

3) Poor Driving Skill of this Super Sport Car ?

 

 

[Mercs]

Bro! :)

 

How's yr Genting trips?

 

From the vidz, seems like a rainy wet day.

 

Slippery when wet, could be many factors like weak tyre grip or sudden surge of power etc...

[Kangadrool]

Can anyone explain why a Ferrari spins that easily with wide tyres ?

My guess are :

1) Engine Horse Power against car Weight is poorly unbalance ?

2) Front Wheel Drive over-powerful against precise steering control ?

3) Poor Driving Skill of this Super Sport Car ?

 

Wide tyres of course easier to loose control/skid. When I see so many wannabes upsizing tyres, especially the width from the stock specs, I wanna have a good laugh. Yes, it gives a more planted feel, but not necessary translates into real stability. A wider tyre may have a smaller contact surface area than a narrower tyre.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Kangadrool

[2BDriver]

Bro! :)

 

How's yr Genting trips?

 

From the vidz, seems like a rainy wet day.

 

Slippery when wet, could be many factors like weak tyre grip or sudden surge of power etc...

Hi, Bro 'Mercs',

Good Day.

I made a trip once a month, let me share with you some of my wettest climp up GHR, MB with slight tail spins but under full control with precise steering to counter these freaking sensations.

Drove once with badly bald rear tyres and the spins seems dangerous So, please never go there with these botak tyres !

Any dates from your schedule ? Let's drive up together

[2BDriver]

Wide tyres of course easier to loose control/skid. When I see so many wannabes upsizing tyres, especially the width from the stock specs, I wanna have a good laugh. Yes, it gives a more planted feel, but not necessary translates into real stability. A wider tyre may have a smaller contact surface area than a narrower tyre.

Aquaplanning is the real cause with wide tyres, my 215 55 R16 is still manageable on wet road

Edited March 8, 2013 by Fongmy

[Nzy]

Wide tires easier to aquaplane.

[Mllcg]

Wide tyres of course easier to loose control/skid. When I see so many wannabes upsizing tyres, especially the width from the stock specs, I wanna have a good laugh. Yes, it gives a more planted feel, but not necessary translates into real stability. A wider tyre may have a smaller contact surface area than a narrower tyre.

 

but on dry roads, isnt wide better?

[Junjian]

Wide tyres of course easier to loose control/skid. When I see so many wannabes upsizing tyres, especially the width from the stock specs, I wanna have a good laugh. Yes, it gives a more planted feel, but not necessary translates into real stability. A wider tyre may have a smaller contact surface area than a narrower tyre.

 

Dude, you sure anot. Wider tyres have more surface area in contact with the road.

 

Why do you think drag racers have extremely wide tyres.

 

Of cos if the idiot over or under inflate the tyres is another story.

 

Like that according to your theory, F1 cars should be fitted with GP bike tyres Liao cos it has better grip.

[Strudel-]

Wide tyres of course easier to loose control/skid. When I see so many wannabes upsizing tyres, especially the width from the stock specs, I wanna have a good laugh. Yes, it gives a more planted feel, but not necessary translates into real stability. A wider tyre may have a smaller contact surface area than a narrower tyre.

 

Yea I have a good laugh at people who are ignorant and thinks wider = lesser contact too.

[Gasguzzler]

The answer is a bad driver who doesn't understand the driving dynamics of a RWD car.

 

Super cars like these have more than 500nm of torque, which is more than enough to make even the widest tyres break contact with the road and spin the wheels if you suddenly floor the pedal. And I noticed that the driver must have floored the pedal while in the process of turning the steering wheel.

 

Just imagine you are pushing a supermarket trolley and filtering to one side when someone from the back suddenly pushes you very hard.

 

[ER-3682]

Usually this happens when the driver turn off the car E.S.P.,i tried once on my 370z,same result....but luckily no crash.

[Nzy]

Dude, you sure anot. Wider tyres have more surface area in contact with the road.

 

Why do you think drag racers have extremely wide tyres.

 

Of cos if the idiot over or under inflate the tyres is another story.

 

Like that according to your theory, F1 cars should be fitted with GP bike tyres Liao cos it has better grip.

 

It might have more grip when the road is dry. But its alot worse when the road is wet. When I went overseas and rented a car, they actually changed the tires for me to a narrower and higher profile tire cuz it was going to be raining alot and those kind of tires are better for wet roads.

[Renegade777]

 

Drunk or drugs ?

 

 

[Nzy]

Yea I have a good laugh at people who are ignorant and thinks wider = lesser contact too.

 

Yep. Some people don't realise that to improve a car's handling they can't just change to wider tires. The person designing the car has designed the car for that tire width that the manufacturer is using. When u change to wider tires from stock, you usually have to use a rim with a different offset. This can change which part of the tires contact the road when cornering and therefore it can affect the handling as well.

 

In fact for those who changed to wider and lower profile tire with a stiffer sidewall, they might have an even smaller contact patch than their stock tires anyway. Cuz the sidewall flex less so although the width of the contact patch increase, the length might be lesser...

Edited March 9, 2013 by Nzy

[Dinosaka]

I've seen Lambo similarly spins out in front of me while he tried to pull away at traffic light...

 

Bad or newbie driver...

[Nzy]

Dude, you sure anot. Wider tyres have more surface area in contact with the road.

 

Why do you think drag racers have extremely wide tyres.

 

Of cos if the idiot over or under inflate the tyres is another story.

 

Like that according to your theory, F1 cars should be fitted with GP bike tyres Liao cos it has better grip.

 

The reason why drag racers have extremely wide tires is not for more grip. The diameter of the wheels help with forward acceleration. Since drag racers no need to take any corners, actually a narrower tire but bigger tire with a long contact patch rather than wide contact patch will be better for acceleration. The only problem they face is the temperature. If they use a narrow tire, the temperature will get too high very quickly. The wide tires are just there to help dissipate the heat.

 

Drag racers actually want taller tires, the width is just to stop the tire from being destroyed by the power they have.

Edited March 9, 2013 by Nzy

[Keavze]

in the dry, wider tires more grip. in the wet, it all depends on the 'cutting' of the tire treads. wide tires can have good wet grip if the treads are correct.

[Tomsss]

my guess is the sudden weight transfer and simply not used to the strong acceleration. You can see that he tried to do a hard acceleration while pulling out of lane to overtake, the rear starts to go off just a little but enough to panic the driver, he suddenly lets go and possible dabbing the brakes as well, tries to straightens wheel and over-compensates and it all goes out of control.