The Companies of Smog maker

[Wishcumstrue]

The faces of CEO who's coy own plantation in Sumatra

 

Asia Pacific Resources International Holdings, Ltd

URL: http://www.aprilasia.com/in

Boss: Sukanto Tanoto (陈江和) Indonesian

Named richest Indonesian in 2008 by Forbes magazine

Total net worth of US$ 2.8 billion (ranked 418th on Forbes 500 list

 

 

GreenPeace investigation finding:

APRIL sells paper in the United States under half a dozen brand names, including the office paper brand Paper One.

You could be subsidizing rainforest destruction, for basic printing and photocopying, without even knowing it.

 

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns...-Limited-APRIL/

 

Edited June 22, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Jman888]

COE? :huh:

[Tianmo]

COE? :huh:

 

 

Cat A or Cat B???............ [laugh]

[Wishcumstrue]

The faces of CEO who's coy own plantation in Sumatra

 

Sinar Mas

URL: www.sinarmas.com

Boss: Eka Tjipta Widjaja (黄亦聪) Indonesian

Named 40th richest Indonesian by Forbes magazine

Total net worth of US$$7.7B (2012)

Industry: Palm Oil

http://www.forbes.com/profile/eka-tjipta-widjaja/

 

 

GreenPeace investigation finding:

How Sinar Mas is pulping the planet

Greenpeace investigated two important rainforest areas on the Indonesian island of Sumatra and discovered that Sinar Mas is wreaking environmental havoc in both.

The Bukit Tigapuluh Forest Landscape is one of the last refuges for endangered Sumatran tigers and orang-utans.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en...s/SinarMas-APP/

Edited June 22, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Thaiyotakamli]

Sinar mas also have property developer subsidiaries and they are one of the biggest property developers in indonesia including in charge of the development in BSD city in Tangerang, near jakarta.

 

and sukanto tanoto is my friend's relative,his whole family very rich and most of them have a swiss bank account in which the min require min 50m usd to open account there.

 

heard from my friend, sukanto tanoto house very huge with tennis court, helipad, swimming pool and guarded with many securities and cctv.

Edited June 22, 2013 by Thaiyotakamli

[Wishcumstrue]

Eka Tjipta Widjaja has a Singaporean son, Oei Hong Leong, billionaire investor and property developer (Chairman of Chip Lian Investment)

I hope this Singaporean can SMELL his father's business by-product.

 

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/79/singap...Leong_XPM9.html

 

Deforested and burning plantations from Sumatra sending smoke over Singapore Jun 2013.

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[Somewhat1975]

interactive map Edited June 22, 2013 by Somewhat1975

[Wt_know]

find all these mother father gentlemen hiding behind the companies

they are 10x responsible than the ignorant villager whom is paid a few pennies to torch the forest

Edited June 22, 2013 by Wt_know

[Wishcumstrue]

BBC report 21 June 2013.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23011189

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22987120

 

This is not just about haze only, this an ecological disaster that had been going on right next door of global proportion.

We need to influence this destructive act and reverse the deforestation trend.

This will require regional effort, not just between Singapore and Indonesia.

 

 

[Kiadaw]

So the company is well to do, so they should have no problem to pay for the damage, health & tourism cost to Singapore then.

[Member69]

Fine the company heavily.

The order to burn the forest maybe given by those company ground staff in cahoots with the farmers and the corrupt officials.all 3 must be brought to justice.

[Wt_know]

first must punish all the companies that burning the forest

these companies are HEARTLESS ... what they really care is PROFIT ... irregardless of what method being used

beside, they got ignorant people who will do the dirty work for a few pennies

 

BBC report 21 June 2013.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23011189

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22987120

 

This is not just about haze only, this an ecological disaster that had been going on right next door of global proportion.

We need to influence this destructive act and reverse the deforestation trend.

This will require regional effort, not just between Singapore and Indonesia.

Edited June 22, 2013 by Wt_know

[Wt_know]

fine is no use ... fine means money

and money is what they have and what they want to make more out from the burning

justice must be served ... jail the culprit

 

having said that, a law must be passed that forest fire counter measure must be put up

ie: make each plantation for every acre has a huge water tank ... when there is forest fire ... the water tank can be activated or broken to flood the plantation some sort

 

there must be counter measure and cannot always hide behind that this nature and fire was caused by dry season

with the counter measure setup, there is no motivation for these companies to burn their plantation anymore as the preventive measure can be activated

 

fine is nothing ... if money can solve the problem ... there is no problem they have plenty of money and these dirty money was made through you me and everyone who use their product

 

Fine the company heavily.

The order to burn the forest maybe given by those company ground staff in cahoots with the farmers and the corrupt officials.all 3 must be brought to justice.

 

[Mllcg]

fine is no use ... fine means money

and money is what they have and what they want to make more out from the burning

justice must be served ... jail the culprit

 

having said that, a law must be passed that forest fire counter measure must be put up

ie: make each plantation for every acre has a huge water tank ... when there is forest fire ... the water tank can be activated or broken to flood the plantation some sort

 

there must be counter measure and cannot always hide behind that this nature and fire was caused by dry season

with the counter measure setup, there is no motivation for these companies to burn their plantation anymore as the preventive measure can be activated

 

fine is nothing ... if money can solve the problem ... there is no problem they have plenty of money and these dirty money was made through you me and everyone who use their product

 

with money, they can just "buy" their way out of jail.

 

to add on, they are already so rich why keep delogging? just retire and enjoy life alr. 2.2B can last a lifetime with spares for the family

Edited June 22, 2013 by Mllcg

[Wishcumstrue]

with money, they can just "buy" their way out of jail.

 

to add on, they are already so rich why keep delogging? just retire and enjoy life alr. 2.2B can last a lifetime with spares for the family

 

This is becoz of market demand and no other alternative resources.

 

Just ask ourselves:

Do you use shampoo or detergent? Enjoy ice cream, margarine? Cosmetics like lipsticks etc?

All the above and more, need palm oil.

So naturally Oil Palm companies will always be seeking more land and forest to plant their crop.

The more, the better, the cheaper to sell in volume. Hence we as consumer will save some $.

 

 

One of the largest Palm Oil coy is actually in own, managed and run by Singaporean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmar_International own by Singaporean billionare

 

Now, I am not accusing Wilmar for the conducting illegal slash and burn method at their plantation in Sumatra here.

What I am showing is there is much larger supply chain in this Industry that has indirectly result in ecological destruction in some of the region's priceless primay Forest.

 

Wilmar International Ltd (SGX listed F34.SI)

Chairman and CEO - Kuok Khoon Hong

Ranked 7th on Forbes

Edited June 23, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Somewhat1975]

This is becoz of market demand and no other alternative resources.

 

Just ask ourselves:

Do you use shampoo or detergent? Enjoy ice cream, margarine? Cosmetics like lipsticks etc?

All the above and more, need palm oil.

So naturally Oil Palm companies will always be seeking more land and forest to plant their crop.

The more, the better, the cheaper to sell in volume. Hence we as consumer will save some $.

 

 

 

One of the largest Palm Oil coy is actually in own, managed and run by Singaporean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmar_International own by Singaporean billionare

 

Now, I am not accusing Wilmar for the conducting illegal slash and burn method at their plantation in Sumatra here.

What I am showing is there is much larger supply chain in this Industry that has indirectly result in ecological destruction in some of the region's priceless primay Forest.

 

Wilmar International Ltd (SGX listed F34.SI)

Chairman and CEO - Kuok Khoon Hong

Ranked 7th on Forbes

[Wishcumstrue]

Lot of BS. so now blame the consumer ?

 

Deforestation will not bring you haze if it is done properly.

 

If you against the palm oil, please apply the same logic to the other agriculture product, be it wheat, rice or soya bean. Where do you think those farmer in US/Europe get their land for their plantation if not deforestation.

 

Incorrect. You sound like the Indonesian minister who said the current fire is due to "nature".

It is not. Do you know there are difference between natural forest fire vs large scale plantation fire set by human?

 

The differences in scale, location and timing.

Deforestation IS and THE primary activity which cause large scale fire in plantation which lead to sever haze condition we see now.

Usually, forest fires infrequent and seldom starts even during normal dry seasons in the tropics.

What we are seeing now is UNNATURAL process of slash-&-burn method done by Man done at a YEARLY basis and growing ever larger.

This we know. Aren't you aware too?

 

For consumer-driven, I am afraid you are avoiding certain responsible we as consumer have.

We can do something about this - reduce your consumption.

 

Now, is this too hard to do for each of us?

 

Another is via social pressure on those huge and powerful conglomerates who are involved in this Industry.

The primary target will be Singapore-based companies, some of whom had apparently had some very cozy relation with our some of Singapore's politicians and elites.

 

Do you want me to share who are the "elites" who have close tie with these Palm Oil giants?

 

There will be no free lunch when comes to protecting OUR environment - and when I say "OUR", I meant every human, no just Indonesian or Singaporean,

 

PS:

US crops are mostly GM-products, staff that are banned in EU. All US/EU crops do not use slash-&-burn as it is strictly enforced.

 

Edited June 23, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Yewheng]

Incorrect. You sound like the Indonesian minister who said the current fire is due to "nature".

It is not. Do you know there are difference between natural forest fire vs large scale plantation fire set by human?

 

The differences in scale, location and timing.

Deforestation IS and THE primary activity which cause large scale fire in plantation which lead to server haze condition we see now.

Usually, forest fires infrequent and seldom starts even during normal dry seasons in the tropics.

What we are seeing now is UNNATURAL process of slash-&-burn method done by Man done at a YEARLY basis and growing ever larger.

This we know. Aren't you aware too?

 

For consumer-driven, I am afraid you are avoiding certain responsible we as consumer have.

We can do something about this - reduce your consumption.

 

Now, is this too hard to do for each of us?

 

True, when there is no demand, they would not need to do it so big scale.

 

So basically is hope there is a breakthrough in innovation/technology which reduce the need of palm oil, or alternate renewable resources that is more environment friendly.

Edited June 23, 2013 by Yewheng