Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 (edited) there are 2 LTA working in OCS that kena charged also for putting false entries in the armskote books. I dont understand why these DOs are so lazy. During take over of armskote, simply ask the outgoing DO if 'everything OK' and trusted that guy. Asking for trouble if you dont take the due diligence to count the items. Even though I know there are many armskotes to clear in OCS, that is also not the way. ( each OCS wing has 4 armskote on 4 levels. The DO and ASDO combined has about 36 armskotes to clear plus HQ). paiseh.. cant find the news online. which batch are u from eh bro? I know you told me but I forgot back in my unit as I was about to ORD, a couple of young officers were charged for cheating at a freaking IPPT during the 2.4km run. I was like WTF?!?! Those clowns got demoted to private and became mess boys right away. damn bloody sia suay. luckily I combat unit.... only a few armskotes to clear hahahaha Edited July 10, 2013 by Yattokame ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azhiwen 3rd Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 which batch are u from eh bro? I know you told me but I forgot back in my unit as I was about to ORD, a couple of young officers were charged for cheating at a freaking IPPT during the 2.4km run. I was like WTF?!?! Those clowns got demoted to private and became mess boys right away. damn bloody sia suay. luckily I combat unit.... only a few armskotes to clear hahahaha Once POP and go unit, all become fat and lazy le, but still need/want to pass IPPT for the $$$ so they take the easy way out and cheat lor. My unit last time also had 1 or 2 caught for cheating in SOC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispie 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 (edited) which batch are u from eh bro? I know you told me but I forgot back in my unit as I was about to ORD, a couple of young officers were charged for cheating at a freaking IPPT during the 2.4km run. I was like WTF?!?! Those clowns got demoted to private and became mess boys right away. damn bloody sia suay. luckily I combat unit.... only a few armskotes to clear hahahaha me 32/98 Echo Wing. Then stayed back as instructors in tactics team 4. during my cadet days, in my neighbouring Wing, the DO over CNY did exactly same thing. they did not count the arms and cleared the cadets to go home for the festival. The holiday DO opened and check and found one rifle missing. Turned out one kuku cadet didnt send arms. All kena called back over day 2 of CNY. Cadet, Armskote IC and the all DOs from new years eve to outgoing on 2nd day all kena jialut. Edited July 10, 2013 by Chrispie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 me 32/98 Echo Wing. Then stayed back as instructors in tactics team 4. during my cadet days, in my neighbouring Wing, the DO over CNY did exactly same thing. they did not count the arms and cleared the cadets to go home for the festival. The holiday DO opened and check and found one rifle missing. Turned out one kuku cadet didnt send arms. All kena called back over day 2 of CNY. Cadet, Armskote IC and the all DOs from new years eve to outgoing on 2nd day all kena jialut. oh ya you are one year my junior.... 79 right? I was 28/97 echo so your instructors are mainly my platoon/coy mates I was posted to an SIR and made coy2IC WALAO EH DIDN'T SEND ARMS!??!?! sibeh big daiji one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Once POP and go unit, all become fat and lazy le, but still need/want to pass IPPT for the $$$ so they take the easy way out and cheat lor. My unit last time also had 1 or 2 caught for cheating in SOC. foot soldier I can understand but they were officers who were supposed to lead by example good they were caught and stripped of rank lah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispie 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 oh ya you are one year my junior.... 79 right? I was 28/97 echo so your instructors are mainly my platoon/coy mates I was posted to an SIR and made coy2IC WALAO EH DIDN'T SEND ARMS!??!?! sibeh big daiji one oh you 28 ah.. that means you also Bravo Echo batch? So you B or E? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 oh you 28 ah.. that means you also Bravo Echo batch? So you B or E? echo lah. put in my previous post liao. never read properly right chao cadet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispie 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 echo lah. put in my previous post liao. never read properly right chao cadet oops.... yah.. my apc was Ubin. Eurasian guy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 oops.... yah.. my apc was Ubin. Eurasian guy. I KNOW HIM!!! nice fellow if my memory serves me right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperEBreak Neutral Newbie July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Last time one regular officer faked his NUS result slips and was found out. He was demoted to PTE and sent to another ulu camp to serve out his remaining years. which batch are u from eh bro? I know you told me but I forgot back in my unit as I was about to ORD, a couple of young officers were charged for cheating at a freaking IPPT during the 2.4km run. I was like WTF?!?! Those clowns got demoted to private and became mess boys right away. damn bloody sia suay. luckily I combat unit.... only a few armskotes to clear hahahaha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispie 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 I KNOW HIM!!! nice fellow if my memory serves me right. yah nice chap. Met him last year at PLC for promotion ceremony. He was made Major. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispie 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Last time one regular officer faked his NUS result slips and was found out. He was demoted to PTE and sent to another ulu camp to serve out his remaining years. very often.. they can tolerate a lot of nonsense.. you can fight you can swear, even insubordinate. but anything to do with integrity, straight away de commissioned. One cadet during my year lost magazine, just kena RP. Another smuggled chocolate during exercise despite clear instructions was given not to, and asked to declare, but he didnt, kena ooc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagara 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 (edited) During my stay in an ADA unit, a CPT also chut pattern during 2.4km run. All the while he was behind me but ended up timing better than me. Think he is the S1 if I remember correctly. KNN like that also can. Buay hiao pai seh. Edited July 10, 2013 by Sagara Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yattokame 4th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 very often.. they can tolerate a lot of nonsense.. you can fight you can swear, even insubordinate. but anything to do with integrity, straight away de commissioned. One cadet during my year lost magazine, just kena RP. Another smuggled chocolate during exercise despite clear instructions was given not to, and asked to declare, but he didnt, kena ooc. Alfa coy two cadets played with their swords before commissioning parade. OOC. Steam. My time was called coy. Each wing 4 coy. Eh lost magazine is controlled item. Just RP? Ya quite strict. My platoon a few regulars kena ooc. Dont give face one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestylers09 5th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 You from Armour unit? from ACGS for 2 weeks ,i helped to did his office setup,previously was occupied R.Singh. both are COA candidates v high flyer, however WAC went private. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabian Turbocharged July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 from ACGS for 2 weeks ,i helped to did his office setup,previously was occupied R.Singh. both are COA candidates v high flyer, however WAC went private. He was my CO. Not really a people person. Somehow didn't come across as he gave a damn abt the men he supposedly led. My unit was like conveyor belt for high flyers. BT was also my CO. He was more of a people person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3badge 6th Gear July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 (edited) I KNOW HIM!!! nice fellow if my memory serves me right. from YJC? Edited July 10, 2013 by D3badge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_Zai 3rd Gear July 11, 2013 Share July 11, 2013 we all know how the army works ------- More than just a President Scholar More than just a clean ceiling President Scholar "Politics is a contest for power. But you know the key principle when you have power is: don't take advantage of people under your charge and always be honest and upfront with your people. When a mistake is made, just come clean and say so. But don't cover up." Sounds familiar? Knn almost every newspaper on this damn island carried the Minister with the little girl's name quote in full. It's not just about a clean ceiling ok. But is this consistently applied throughout the government? Why was Captain Sherwayn Tan, 27, discharged from military service when his Commanding Officer never check the training programme and let all the men book out!? Did his Commanding Officer and MINDEF take care of him? Captain, who is also a President Scholar, was charged for falsifying official document when he signed a paper saying that his men had went for range practice when they had actually booked out. The unit's CO had let the men book out for good performance. s--t Times had the cheek to ask why Captain did not recall the men for range practice. That means the Captain would go against the order of his superior and piss off his whole company by asking them to come back. Sure, he was stupid and made a mistake by covering up. He knew it was wrong and he admitted it but he didn't know it would end his military career. Subsequently, he was charged, fined $2000 and discharged from a glorious military career and a plush Temasek-listed firm directorship when he retires. And all this while there was no mention of the responsibility of his CO and superiors. Luckily, he has one more chance now that a retrial was ordered by the military appeal court after they said he didn't know that he would be discharged when he pleaded guilty to the offence. Sherwayn Tan's discipline record is clean is near to the end of his six year bond. Then you would wonder, who was advising this Captain all this while? Or left him in the deep? Now this is where the plot thickens, because according to his lawyer, his superiors had asked him to plead guilty so that he could resume his SAF service without any obstruction. Quite obviously, if he knew he would be discharged if he pleaded guilty, he might as well contest the charge. Captain is in the wrong, there is no doubt about that. But was there any pressure or advice from his superior to plead guilty and move on? DId they ask him to get lawyer as this could be a serious charge? Were they honest and upfront with the Captain? MINDEF should investigate and give a dossier to the public like what Minister had done in parliament. http://sporehallofshame.blogspot.sg/2013/0...nt-scholar.html ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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