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Depreciation of Audi A8

Matoonia

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Volvobrick

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It is very comfy, a bit too many gadgets that may fail. But you can source for parts from overseas and go to outside WS to keep costs down.

 

There are other luxury cars around 15K dep as well. Not that they are cheap, but rather the rest of the normal car prices (asked by the dealers) are exorbitant!

 

I say go for it! :-)

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Zyklon

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Really, if you drive a euro badge, especially the higher end ones, then be prepared to get chop at workshops, especially those that "specialise" in certain marque. Even a simple oil change can cost 400-500 outside, simply because many shops don't do BYO oil. Even if they do, the labour charge is going to be 80 or more.

 

10k for maintainence in 5 years is considered lucky and cheap. Just a simple gearbox overhaul may cost half of that.

 

And as with economics, anything bigger cost more. You can be looking at 1.5k for just pads and disc at the stockist when they wear out on a conti with big stock brakes. Four pieces of tyres may set you back more than 2k. Unsurprisingly, these happen a lot more often than on a bread and butter jap car when you have got more mass and power.

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Celicar

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One of them included an engine flush mah.. when the coolant tank blew up.. think + tow charges etc etc

How come the coolant tank can blow up?!? Sounds scary leh. :o

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Tiger1

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bro, sure or not?

 

if car left 5 years, 5*2k = 10k.

 

u sure a 10k repair on a8 is normally expected?

I dare not say per yr is 2k repair expected and I was not suggesting that. What I meant was for a conti lux car such as an A8, the repair isn't going to be cheap. Changing 4 suspension at an outside workshop for a 7 series, 08 model is easily 2k liao. A S class with air suspension is easily 5k liao.

 

Depending on luck I would say. If you brought a lemon on a jap or Korean car, 10k might be sufficient. Cont car, 10k not enough to rebuild the engine. Just me 0.02 cents.

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Ngbernie

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I dare not say per yr is 2k repair expected and I was not suggesting that. What I meant was for a conti lux car such as an A8, the repair isn't going to be cheap. Changing 4 suspension at an outside workshop for a 7 series, 08 model is easily 2k liao. A S class with air suspension is easily 5k liao.

 

Depending on luck I would say. If you brought a lemon on a jap or Korean car, 10k might be sufficient. Cont car, 10k not enough to rebuild the engine. Just me 0.02 cents.

 

Agreed with Tiger and Zyklon. 2k/yr is the minimum for a well used luxury conti car, factoring only normal wear and tear. If you have any unexpected failures, easily 5k/yr. That's why new conti cars depreciate a lot more - owners do not have to worry about maintenance.

 

IIRC, the A8 also runs on gas struts, each strut costing about 2k. So if the previous owner has never changed the suspension... it's a definite replacement over the next 5 years. And that's just one part of the suspension equation, you still have more to worry about.

 

That said, if the depreciation between an equally-used A8 and A4 is similar, just get the A8! Be sure to get a trusted mechanic to have a look at the car for you to ensure there's nothing critically wrong with it, since there were previous bad encounters with vendor.

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Acemundo

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I dare not say per yr is 2k repair expected and I was not suggesting that. What I meant was for a conti lux car such as an A8, the repair isn't going to be cheap. Changing 4 suspension at an outside workshop for a 7 series, 08 model is easily 2k liao. A S class with air suspension is easily 5k liao.

 

Depending on luck I would say. If you brought a lemon on a jap or Korean car, 10k might be sufficient. Cont car, 10k not enough to rebuild the engine. Just me 0.02 cents.

 

ok la, if you talking about rebuilding engine, it is costly but still it is not so common that one have to rebuild the engine.

 

cars like a8, if bought first hand is so expensive due to the super high omv. in the first hand market, omv is a huge determinant. but in the resale mkt demand is a larger determinant. that's why for cars like a8, buying resale is still much more sensible than buying first hand. even if the repair cost is 10k, it is definitely lower than the 40k or more hit when the first owner resells it.

 

but of course, if the comparison is Korean and Japanese car, it won't be cheaper. but a person that chooses a8, most likely wouldn't ever think of Korean and Japanese car.

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Volvobrick

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Do remember to factor in the higher fuel consumption, Don't buy if you are a sales rep who travels 80-100km a day!

But if the usage is low, just go for it and enjoy the ride!

 

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Acemundo

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Agreed with Tiger and Zyklon. 2k/yr is the minimum for a well used luxury conti car, factoring only normal wear and tear. If you have any unexpected failures, easily 5k/yr. That's why new conti cars depreciate a lot more - owners do not have to worry about maintenance.

 

IIRC, the A8 also runs on gas struts, each strut costing about 2k. So if the previous owner has never changed the suspension... it's a definite replacement over the next 5 years. And that's just one part of the suspension equation, you still have more to worry about.

 

That said, if the depreciation between an equally-used A8 and A4 is similar, just get the A8! Be sure to get a trusted mechanic to have a look at the car for you to ensure there's nothing critically wrong with it, since there were previous bad encounters with vendor.

 

2k/year for normal wear and tear? what is included in your normal wear and tear category? beyond my expectation to pay such amount for wear and tear items every year even though it is an audi a8.

 

 

suspension change cost maybe $1.5k but it lasts 5 years. so I am not sure what wear and tear items can cost $2k every year. then again, wear and tear items for the jap car would have cost say 60% of S$2k . so shouldn't we analyse the incremental cost rather than the absolute cost?

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Matoonia

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I have switched from a Japanese car to VW 4 years ago. Enjoyed 1 year of warranty with VCS, and then stuck with a specialist VW workshop since.

 

In the last 3 years, I have replaced GB, Engine mountings, Fuel pumps, recon GB once. Including normal servicing, tyre change etc average maintenance works out to $5k a year. In other words, I'm familiar with high maintenance costs [laugh]

 

So if an A8/730 depreciation is around $15k, compared to an A4/320 which is same or even higher, then it may be worthwhile to change to A8/730 then. And assuming if the 320 annual maintenance is $5k, then can factor 50% more for A8 which is $8k. $8k maintenance + $2k more road tax = $10k, so the annual running costs of a A8 is only $5k more than 320 (excluding petrol). So a 320 driver annual running costs of $20k, add another $5k (25%) can upgrade to drive A8. Compared to new 730 price is twice that of 320, so from this angle it offers very wu hua (good value)

 

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Acemundo

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Do invest in a Ross Tech VCGS diagnostic cable kit if you have an Audi/VW so you will not be ketok by the WS.

 

 

bro, how much does the diagnostic kit cost?

I have switched from a Japanese car to VW 4 years ago. Enjoyed 1 year of warranty with VCS, and then stuck with a specialist VW workshop since.

 

In the last 3 years, I have replaced GB, Engine mountings, Fuel pumps, recon GB once. Including normal servicing, tyre change etc average maintenance works out to $5k a year. In other words, I'm familiar with high maintenance costs [laugh]

 

So if an A8/730 depreciation is around $15k, compared to an A4/320 which is same or even higher, then it may be worthwhile to change to A8/730 then. And assuming if the 320 annual maintenance is $5k, then can factor 50% more for A8 which is $8k. $8k maintenance + $2k more road tax = $10k, so the annual running costs of a A8 is only $5k more than 320 (excluding petrol). So a 320 driver annual running costs of $20k, add another $5k (25%) can upgrade to drive A8. Compared to new 730 price is twice that of 320, so from this angle it offers very wu hua (good value)

 

bro,

whch vw model you have need to change gb and which year of the car did that happen?

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SuPerBoRed

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I have switched from a Japanese car to VW 4 years ago. Enjoyed 1 year of warranty with VCS, and then stuck with a specialist VW workshop since.

 

In the last 3 years, I have replaced GB, Engine mountings, Fuel pumps, recon GB once. Including normal servicing, tyre change etc average maintenance works out to $5k a year. In other words, I'm familiar with high maintenance costs [laugh]

 

So if an A8/730 depreciation is around $15k, compared to an A4/320 which is same or even higher, then it may be worthwhile to change to A8/730 then. And assuming if the 320 annual maintenance is $5k, then can factor 50% more for A8 which is $8k. $8k maintenance + $2k more road tax = $10k, so the annual running costs of a A8 is only $5k more than 320 (excluding petrol). So a 320 driver annual running costs of $20k, add another $5k (25%) can upgrade to drive A8. Compared to new 730 price is twice that of 320, so from this angle it offers very wu hua (good value)

 

 

seeing that you have given such long thoughts into this... am curious.. have u went down to see the car yet??

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Enye

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I have switched from a Japanese car to VW 4 years ago. Enjoyed 1 year of warranty with VCS, and then stuck with a specialist VW workshop since.

 

In the last 3 years, I have replaced GB, Engine mountings, Fuel pumps, recon GB once. Including normal servicing, tyre change etc average maintenance works out to $5k a year. In other words, I'm familiar with high maintenance costs [laugh]

 

So if an A8/730 depreciation is around $15k, compared to an A4/320 which is same or even higher, then it may be worthwhile to change to A8/730 then. And assuming if the 320 annual maintenance is $5k, then can factor 50% more for A8 which is $8k. $8k maintenance + $2k more road tax = $10k, so the annual running costs of a A8 is only $5k more than 320 (excluding petrol). So a 320 driver annual running costs of $20k, add another $5k (25%) can upgrade to drive A8. Compared to new 730 price is twice that of 320, so from this angle it offers very wu hua (good value)

 

Which car and which workshop? Very scary better avoid

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Thaiyotakamli

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somehow vw will be my last option when it comes to Conti

 

By rank of preference

1. BMW

1. Merc

3. Audi

4. Jaguar

5. Range Rover

6. Lexus

7. Volvo

8. Infiniti

9. VW

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