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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:35 PM

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Was driving Beemer for the last 25 years and just booked the A4 B9 2.0TFSI last week at S$143,999 (with VC) but no solar film or recording dashcam.

Was informed by the SE that MTM tuning solution for new A4 is available. Package price as follows:

1. MTM Performance upgrade for A4 2.0TFSi is $4,500 before gst
2. Power gain: from 190hp/320Nm to 250hp/390Nm
3. LTA approval: NO
4. Warranty: Factory warranty void, however PA will take over warranty.

Any any bros (or sis) here managed to tune a 2.0TFSi to Stage 1 MTM ?
Is the engine-noise level much louder ? Pleasantly louder or otherwise ?
Is the fuel-consumption much worse ?
What is the estimated time for the 0-100 sprint ?

No LTA approval? Isn't that troublesome?

If you want better sound, change exhaust will be better. MTM not very necessary in SG as you don't have a chance to zua.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:39 PM

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no point to remap
unless always cheong jb or go sepang
even go sepang cannot smell exhaust

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:43 PM

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Thanks SZ_ford & maxsee333 for your valuable input.

If is only 0.4s faster for the century sprint, I think it is definitely not worth the effort. However, some quick googling seems to show that it may be under 5 seconds, which is why it is tempting me.

See :



Of course, theses videos must be taken with a pitch of salt given the controlled environment as opposed to real life street driving. Much will depend on the type of fuel and performance settings.

Despite the caveat, under 5 seconds mark (if true) is still very appealing. If it is true, again, will you spend excess of S$100k (and also more road tax) for an S4, instead of A4 ?

That's a Quattro leh. Different from your 2.0.

Anyway after 0.4 reduction, 6.9s is pretty fast liao.

But 4.5k? Not worth it imo
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:59 PM

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Thanks SZ_ford & maxsee333 for your valuable input.

If is only 0.4s faster for the century sprint, I think it is definitely not worth the effort. However, some quick googling seems to show that it may be under 5 seconds, which is why it is tempting me.

See :



Of course, theses videos must be taken with a pitch of salt given the controlled environment as opposed to real life street driving. Much will depend on the type of fuel and performance settings.

Despite the caveat, under 5 seconds mark (if true) is still very appealing. If it is true, again, will you spend excess of S$100k (and also more road tax) for an S4, instead of A4 ?

This revo tune is only for a4 Quattro. Your a4 is fwd right? Not that much reduction in century sprint

Some of the a5 folks say the most obvious gain is after 50kmh

4500 is for 5 year warranty by pa. It will drop every year

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:24 PM

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I am so glad that I chanced upon this forum.  You guys have been amazing and pointed out my misconception right away.

Given the "small" increment of 0.4 sec, I agree that S$4500 is not worth the money and there are much better way to spend the moola, say, a year or two supply of viagra maybe. Guess I may need it in a few more years to come.

Then again, it bags the question whether the 2.0TFSI A4 Quattro engine is really different from the A4 FWD ?  Knowing that it is difficult to come out with a new type of engine, I would find it difficult to accept that Audi does not have the financial wisdom and to have different engine for different model.  Simply put, everyone tries to save costs, including Audi, by having the same engine whenever possible example : A5 and A4 sharing similar engine.  It is so so much more expensive to manufacture a new engine.

From this post : https://www.motortre...term-update-10/   it appears that it costs USD$4,500 more to upgrade A4 FWD to Quattro in the land of the free.  The price of USD$4,500 suggest that it is the same engine in both the FWD and Quattro.  A different engine will definitely costs a lot more in the Quattro.

If I may, I think MTM has a more linear tuning than RevO who appears to be much more aggressive.


Edited by ChewRen123, 19 March 2019 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:46 PM

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I am so glad that I chanced upon this forum. You guys have been amazing and pointed out my misconception right away.

Given the "small" increment of 0.4 sec, I agree that S$4500 is not worth the money and there are much better way to spend the moola, say, a year or two supply of viagra maybe. Guess I may need it in a few more years to come.

Then again, it bags the question whether the 2.0TFSI A4 Quattro engine is really different from the A4 FWD ? Knowing that it is difficult to come out with a new type of engine, I would find it difficult to accept that Audi does not have the financial wisdom and to have different engine for different model. Simply put, everyone tries to save costs, including Audi, by having the same engine whenever possible example : A5 and A4 sharing similar engine. It is so so much more expensive to manufacture a new engine.

From this post : https://www.motortre...term-update-10/ it appears that it costs USD$4,500 more to upgrade A4 FWD to Quattro in the land of the free. The price of USD$4,500 suggest that it is the same engine in both the FWD and Quattro. A different engine will definitely costs a lot more in the Quattro.

If I may, I think MTM has a more linear tuning than RevO who appears to be much more aggressive.

Both are EA888 engines. The Fwd uses Gen 3b while the Quattro is a Gen 3. Rather different animals as you can see from the post Stage 1 numbers. 1 is 250bhp while the other is 333bhp? Different internals altogether.

Whether the MTM is worth it depends on individual. My B8 A4 1.8 after stage 1 was 343nm compared to 250nm stock and bhp went from 160 to 210bhp. Worth? Every cent. At least for me. Wish I did it from Day 1.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 08:27 AM

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I am so glad that I chanced upon this forum.  You guys have been amazing and pointed out my misconception right away.

Given the "small" increment of 0.4 sec, I agree that S$4500 is not worth the money and there are much better way to spend the moola, say, a year or two supply of viagra maybe. Guess I may need it in a few more years to come.

Then again, it bags the question whether the 2.0TFSI A4 Quattro engine is really different from the A4 FWD ?  Knowing that it is difficult to come out with a new type of engine, I would find it difficult to accept that Audi does not have the financial wisdom and to have different engine for different model.  Simply put, everyone tries to save costs, including Audi, by having the same engine whenever possible example : A5 and A4 sharing similar engine.  It is so so much more expensive to manufacture a new engine.

From this post : https://www.motortre...term-update-10/   it appears that it costs USD$4,500 more to upgrade A4 FWD to Quattro in the land of the free.  The price of USD$4,500 suggest that it is the same engine in both the FWD and Quattro.  A different engine will definitely costs a lot more in the Quattro.

If I may, I think MTM has a more linear tuning than RevO who appears to be much more aggressive.

both use the same engine. The base a4 use a detuned version of the quattro's. this basically create another category or price range of a4/a5. 

 

the big difference in century sprint is due to the drive train, FWD and AWD, and revo doesn't have a tune for the 190hp engine. Even if revo does tune the 190 hp, i believe the century sprint time won't be too different from mtm

 

A Civic type r fwd which weighs 1360kg with 306 hp can only sprint 6s 0-100. A much heavier 330i rwd with 250hp can post almost similar time  .




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