inlinesix Supersonic October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 as long as infra for electric vehicles not ready then ICE will still remain. eg. Sg, unless u stay landed or office has charging point, how u gonna charge ur pure electric car? In China, govt is developing more infra for EV. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdsea 3rd Gear October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 as long as infra for electric vehicles not ready then ICE will still remain. eg. Sg, unless u stay landed or office has charging point, how u gonna charge ur pure electric car? Sadly you are correct and its a chicken and egg situation. People wont buy an electric vehicle until its convenient to be able to use it. Govt wont invest in re-charging infrastructure until people have the cars that need it... In fact Singapore with its small land area and dense urban traffic conditions is an ideal environment for electric vehicles and its a shame the Govt has missed the opportunity to innovate in this area, I guess maybe they are too addicted to the revenue from the 56cts per litre petrol tax they can put towards fixing the MRT every day.. Even if we are too small to have an indigenous car industry, the opportunity to innovate and develop the electric motors and drives and be at the forefront of battery technology is there. Every HDB car park should have say 5 electric car bays as a standard feature with the electrical risers and trunking put in place for th whole car park, so that these can be easily expanded as and when needed. With the artificial turnover in car ownership created by the COE system and the right infrastructure and incentives in place, it would be surprisingly quick for people to make the switch, when they realise that a 300km range in an island only 40km from end to end is actually not a limitation at all... and electric cars can be suprisingly fun to drive.. :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 I think ICE has a long way to go. At the moment it only uses 17% of the energy and the other 83% of unburnt fuel comes out of the pipe as pollution. The trick is to burn petrol as a gas instead of as a liquid. Gases burn completely while petrol as a liquid is only partly burnt. If petrol is burnt completely there is no polution and the consumption decreases. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victor68 Turbocharged October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 i personally feel. electric is the solution but battery will need another 20 or more years to meet this demand. more so for city driving where most times we are caught in jams and yet engine continue to run and burn fuel. maybe for the interim, a small generator to charge the battery when it is flat could be a solution. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Sound like you are talking about hybrid.... i personally feel. electric is the solution but battery will need another 20 or more years to meet this demand. more so for city driving where most times we are caught in jams and yet engine continue to run and burn fuel. maybe for the interim, a small generator to charge the battery when it is flat could be a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Camless engine evaluation nearly complete in China http://articles.sae.org/15664/ This could be the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronlkl Supersonic October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 This could be the future. The future is electric. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Sound like you are talking about hybrid.... slightly different. the current hybrid still has fuel engine when battery is weak. i would consider kick start generator to charge battery and let generator power drive the car elect motor whike it is charging it. that is the car is 100% driven my electric motor. possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 slightly different. the current hybrid still has fuel engine when battery is weak. i would consider kick start generator to charge battery and let generator power drive the car elect motor whike it is charging it. that is the car is 100% driven my electric motor. possible? BMW i3 REx 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 The future is electric. provided we got clean electric source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 the amount of electrical energy produced by the generator is insufficient to recharge the electrical motor while it is at full capacity in normal driving condition. the electrical motor output always greater than the input. thus your generator will always be burning fossil fuel while trying desperately to power the electrical motor. Defeats the purpose in design. that is the current limitation in technology. This is based on my experience with the last gen GS hybrid. slightly different. the current hybrid still has fuel engine when battery is weak. i would consider kick start generator to charge battery and let generator power drive the car elect motor whike it is charging it. that is the car is 100% driven my electric motor. possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 the amount of electrical energy produced by the generator is insufficient to recharge the electrical motor while it is at full capacity in normal driving condition. the electrical motor output always greater than the input. thus your generator will always be burning fossil fuel while trying desperately to power the electrical motor. Defeats the purpose in design. that is the current limitation in technology. This is based on my experience with the last gen GS hybrid. I am sure the current drawn to drive the car will be higher than the charging current. but i am hoping if the car is stationary in jams, then it will have opportunity to charge battery. haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelaihoyin 5th Gear October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 I am sure the current drawn to drive the car will be higher than the charging current. but i am hoping if the car is stationary in jams, then it will have opportunity to charge battery. haha There is already the Nissan Note E-power that does what you describe. Able to achieve 37km/l in real world test apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 alamak, should have said this earlier and patent it. hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_tee 2nd Gear October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 provided we got clean electric source Stark’s Arc Reactor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 12, 2017 Share October 12, 2017 (edited) the age old Water mist injection also quite good. Just that its not LTA friendly I heard. https://i.ytimg.com/an_webp/LQ1rkbAwk9I/mqdefault_6s.webp?du=3000&sqp=CLLC-s4F&rs=AOn4CLDe8nDMLPM2Tx4z-f6BbYkuLc7UsQ Edited October 12, 2017 by Sdf4786k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged August 7, 2019 Author Share August 7, 2019 The future is definitely electric, as someone said in this topic. Today, maybe Pininfarina Battista went far most in this EV area. Don't you think? Who can fight with this electric monster? :) MLMLWML, whiny (electric) cars hold no appeal for me ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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