Peugeot Owner please come in..

[rhinoted]

please help me :)

When I start my Peugeot 106, it will idle fine, but if I give gas it will stall. If I give just a bit of gas, after about 20 seconds the engine starts to run properly. I unmounted and cleaned the Throttle body and the Idle air control valve, but the problem is still exactly the same.

here are some things I noticed:

1) happens just in hot days and when car was turned off for hours 2) a couple of times I had random erratic idle episodes

I think it is a problem with the MAP sensor or the Throttle position sensor but I don't know how to test it and I would like not to buy random parts..

Car model: Peugeot 106 1.1 TU1JP (HFX)

Thanks

[RadX]

 

please help me :)

When I start my Peugeot 106, it will idle fine, but if I give gas it will stall. If I give just a bit of gas, after about 20 seconds the engine starts to run properly. I unmounted and cleaned the Throttle body and the Idle air control valve, but the problem is still exactly the same.

here are some things I noticed:

1) happens just in hot days and when car was turned off for hours 2) a couple of times I had random erratic idle episodes

I think it is a problem with the MAP sensor or the Throttle position sensor but I don't know how to test it and I would like not to buy random parts..

Car model: Peugeot 106 1.1 TU1JP (HFX)

Thanks

 

 

moved your post here so that others can assist in the right place

 

 

Seems to me that you have an O2 sensor issue as well.  Could be the pre exhaust.  

[Vratenza]

He already did what he can do as an owner with the throttle body cleaning etc.

 

This kind need workshop with proper diagnostic skill and equipment to troubleshoot. 

 

moved your post here so that others can assist in the right place

 

 

Seems to me that you have an O2 sensor issue as well.  Could be the pre exhaust.  

 

[RadX]

He already did what he can do as an owner with the throttle body cleaning etc.

 

This kind need workshop with proper diagnostic skill and equipment to troubleshoot.

Rare breed... DIY like you kind

 

Haha...

 

His idle peculiar but v similar to mine previously

[Vratenza]

Yeah, but I doubt he needs my spacer DIY skills.... 

 

Agree, should be O2 sensors. Especially when he noticed that the ambient environment (affects O2 concentration) affects the symptoms. The problem now is which one. Different cars have different O2 sensors numbers, layout and feedback loop. 

 

Unfortunately the only way is to let the workshop troubleshoot the correct faulty one and replace accordingly rather than to chase the rabbit down the rabbit hole replacing one part after another. 

 

Rare breed... DIY like you kind

Haha...

His idle peculiar but v similar to mine previously

 

[shivgear]

I will have access to a Peugeot Diagnostic scanner sometime end July/early Aug 2018 for a short time. If your pug has an engine light, air bag light, etc that always stay on, this tool can help diagnose. No charge, no fees, no liabilities, no guarantees. This is pure reading and/or clearing/reset of the codes if you like. It does not do any repair for example it can tell if O2 sensor is faulty but that's it. You will have to look for your own workshop to repair any faults found.

If you are interested, drop me a PM with a short description of the fault, year, model and I will let you know once I have the tool and where to meet. Please note this is for Pug cars only. 

 

[bchue]

Selling my peugeot 2008 1.6 turbo diesel reg. july 2014

Anyone interested reply vis sms or whats app to 92973148.

Thks.

[HONESTWANG]

Trust me, dont buy 3008 or 5008, when you test drive turn on the aircon to no. 3 (max. 8), you will trun crazy and never have chance to listen to the in car radio .  My experience is , 6 times in workshop within 2 months

[Ozkaki]

i have one 3008. no problem after more than a year. some of my friends have 1 or 2 but minor issue.

probably yours one of the odd ones.

 

i usually use fan 1 or 2. 3 only after parking under sun.

[HONESTWANG]

Hi current peugeot owner, will like to know are there usually many issues with peugeot's cars? Checked out the facebook page and read many complaints. Thinking whether should i get the new 3008.

 

Hi, I would strongly suggesting you not to consider this car.

Go checkout the aircon n switch to no. 3 then you know what I mean. 

Besides, as new car, my car gone into workshop more than 5 times a month and now still continue.

Drop the idea to buy 3008 .  I am surprise not hearing the current owners announce this to alert the consumer.

PM me if you want to see the problem, I park my car in Hougang most of the time at blk 9xx

[Ozkaki]

Hi, I would strongly suggesting you not to consider this car.

Go checkout the aircon n switch to no. 3 then you know what I mean.

Besides, as new car, my car gone into workshop more than 5 times a month and now still continue.

Drop the idea to buy 3008 . I am surprise not hearing the current owners announce this to alert the consumer.

PM me if you want to see the problem, I park my car in Hougang most of the time at blk 9xx

Do u mind sharing what problem u have?

[Naughty9795]

Driving my 308cc for 9 months and spent 5K for repairs. Millage is over 110K. It was a used one. I thought my ex Alfa Romeo was bad, Peugeot is not better . But at least Alfa is fun to drive and there is a workshop that is good in troubleshoot. Been to the 2 Peugeot "specialist" workshops, not impress by them. Change this change that , trial and error all under my cost to rectify a fault. 

At least that Alfa workshop can pin point exactly the fault and what to change. Can't just rely on the diagnostic , really need experiences.

 

 

Hi current peugeot owner, will like to know are there usually many issues with peugeot's cars? Checked out the facebook page and read many complaints. Thinking whether should i get the new 3008.

New one under warranty, no worry. Sell it off once it starts to have problems 

[Watwheels]

I have also gone thru the same experience with some owners here in the past. Surprised to see they are still facing the same issues after so many years. And yes it happened during when the car is new.

 

One of the many issues like the aircon blower fan. It will lose control and go at full speed. I'm talking about models that are 10 years ago during my ownership. It's not as simple as a fuse issue. The electronics and electrical issues are the most staggering. Defective electrical components especially. Changed under warranty still defective. I think it has to do with their 3rd party suppliers from France. It's horribly made with no QC.

 

Now I look at their new models(such as the 3008) I dont deny and say I'm not tempted but when I looked at the dash with the full digital display and airconditioning controlled by the digital center console or infotainment console... I sianz half. I have no faith in their electronics. I even Googled for issues regarding the 3008 on long term test. This caught my eye. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/peugeot/2017-peugeot-3008-long-term-review/

 

It's a lengthy read. Issues with the infotainment unit. Another turnoff is the fuse layout diagram. It's not printed underneath the fusebox cover like most car. It's found on their website and the car journalist got an error message when he tried to load the link.  LoL...He ended up disconnecting the battery terminals as a last resort.

 

As much as the car journalist would like to praise the 3008. For past owners like me to read that such car still have such issues. It's a major turnoff. As much as ppl like to say it's hearsay or fabricated stories or just plain unlucky. I can assure you it is not.

Edited February 15, 2019 by Watwheels

[Hjapheth]

Hi, I would strongly suggesting you not to consider this car.

Go checkout the aircon n switch to no. 3 then you know what I mean.

Besides, as new car, my car gone into workshop more than 5 times a month and now still continue.

Drop the idea to buy 3008 . I am surprise not hearing the current owners announce this to alert the consumer.

PM me if you want to see the problem, I park my car in Hougang most of the time at blk 9xx

Hi Bro Wang. I also stay in Hougang 9xx and am looking to get a used 3008. Do you mind if I meet you to see the car and problem you mentioned? I’m Japheth. Trying to PM you but can’t find how. Thanks regards

[toycamry]

When people say Jap cars are built for reliability, believe them. Sure, they may not always look the sexiest, in fact most Jap cars look like how people in their society procreate; mechanical and functional.

I was foolish enough to own a used Peugeot 308 until recently, attracted by its looks and price. Unfortunately, I did not take the hint either when the used car shark agreed to my few thousands off his sticker price. 

To be fair, I did not own the car long enough (3 years) to experience more of the Pug issues many of its owners highlight. It was very comfortable to drive (to me) and I drove it up to KL many times (excluding the more regular trips to JB and nearer destinations). The furthest was to Penang and back in two days, maintaining 130kmh with the cruise control. And the good thing was , even the malaysian abang car thieves didn't want to bother stealing a Pug; I once parked it for 5 days at the KLIA long-term parking, the only SG plate car there and returned to find it untouched (Try that with your Honda or Toyota).

What did I hate? Upon receiving ownership of the car, I was forced to spend $500 because the air-con relay (or something like that) was damaged and I had been looking like a fool sweating it out for the first few days before finally taking it to a specialist workshop. $500 for a small piece of plastic? The workshop's reply was "These kind of cars, you should expect this type of pricing", and that mantra followed throughout my ownership of the car. As it was, I had never come across a failure of this 'relay' in other cars, especially since the car was only 2 years old at that time.  In any case, almost every part / item linked to the brand was comparatively more expensive than a Jap / Korean car.

I did not find the rationale often given by workshops and even the parts importer reasonable; "Peugeot is a 'conti' car". Well if its a Merc or BMW, fine. But Peugeot is a bread and butter, budget, low-at most mid range brand European make.

Being budget conscious, for minor or regular servicing like oil change, I usually bought the parts from the parts importer (not agent) and had them changed at a normal (not the specialist) workshop. There came problem 2. In the initial phase of ownership, I had difficulty finding a workshop near my area which was willing to even do oil /spark plug change even though I had the oil filter and plugs with me (obviously the workshop did not have these on hand). Their reason for turning me away? One uncle who was changing the oil of a Honda stepped out, saw my car and said, "Sorry this brand I cannot do". Another time, my first flat tyre with this car, I called a nearby tyre shop and asked for a tow and possibly replace the tyre. When I was asked what model, and replied, the guy said, "Sorry Peugeot we don't handle because the wheel need special tool. You go back to the agent". Special tool? Apparently workshops in JB (which I went to later on) did not need any special tools. Cannot change oil? Just use the vacuum pump to suck out the oil and fill it back like any other car? So, those were the issues I faced initially. Of course, there were local workshops which could handle the car, and it took me a while to find them. It's just that you can't go to any random workshop to get things fixed or done as you could with a more common brand. And having read the terrible service by the agent and ridiculous prices for servicing, I never stepped there at all.

At the 5th year mark of the car's COE, wear and tear started to show up. E.g. terrible cold rattling of the EP6 engine (which was actually present since the day I bought the car), the moon roof fabric starting to peel off, but my biggest fear was the engine. It seemed that some say the rattling could lead to very expensive repairs, but some said it was normal. And thankfully, I did not have to encounter the electronics going haywire and christmas trees lighting up, which some owners experience. In the end though, I decided to end my Peugeot adventure shortly after that.

Would I buy another Peugeot? No. Ultimately, for the middle class like myself, money matters and the potential of having to spend a lot, makes owning this car not a practical option. Sure, there are lemons for every brand, but there must be a reason why sgcarmart and carousell has so many Altises etc with extended COEs and hardly or no Peugeots / Alfas / Citroens. 

Edited December 10, 2019 by toycamry

[andersseanx]

2 hours ago, toycamry said:

When people say Jap cars are built for reliability, believe them. Sure, they may not always look the sexiest, in fact most Jap cars look like how people in their society procreate; mechanical and functional.

I was foolish enough to own a used Peugeot 308 until recently, attracted by its looks and price. Unfortunately, I did not take the hint either when the used car shark agreed to my few thousands off his sticker price. 

To be fair, I did not own the car long enough (3 years) to experience more of the Pug issues many of its owners highlight. It was very comfortable to drive (to me) and I drove it up to KL many times (excluding the more regular trips to JB and nearer destinations). The furthest was to Penang and back in two days, maintaining 130kmh with the cruise control. And the good thing was , even the malaysian abang car thieves didn't want to bother stealing a Pug; I once parked it for 5 days at the KLIA long-term parking, the only SG plate car there and returned to find it untouched (Try that with your Honda or Toyota).

What did I hate? Upon receiving ownership of the car, I was forced to spend $500 because the air-con relay (or something like that) was damaged and I had been looking like a fool sweating it out for the first few days before finally taking it to a specialist workshop. $500 for a small piece of plastic? The workshop's reply was "These kind of cars, you should expect this type of pricing", and that mantra followed throughout my ownership of the car. As it was, I had never come across a failure of this 'relay' in other cars, especially since the car was only 2 years old at that time.  In any case, almost every part / item linked to the brand was comparatively more expensive than a Jap / Korean car.

I did not find the rationale often given by workshops and even the parts importer reasonable; "Peugeot is a 'conti' car". Well if its a Merc or BMW, fine. But Peugeot is a bread and butter, budget, low-at most mid range brand European make.

Being budget conscious, for minor or regular servicing like oil change, I usually bought the parts from the parts importer (not agent) and had them changed at a normal (not the specialist) workshop. There came problem 2. In the initial phase of ownership, I had difficulty finding a workshop near my area which was willing to even do oil /spark plug change even though I had the oil filter and plugs with me (obviously the workshop did not have these on hand). Their reason for turning me away? One uncle who was changing the oil of a Honda stepped out, saw my car and said, "Sorry this brand I cannot do". Another time, my first flat tyre with this car, I called a nearby tyre shop and asked for a tow and possibly replace the tyre. When I was asked what model, and replied, the guy said, "Sorry Peugeot we don't handle because the wheel need special tool. You go back to the agent". Special tool? Apparently workshops in JB (which I went to later on) did not need any special tools. Cannot change oil? Just use the vacuum pump to suck out the oil and fill it back like any other car? So, those were the issues I faced initially. Of course, there were local workshops which could handle the car, and it took me a while to find them. It's just that you can't go to any random workshop to get things fixed or done as you could with a more common brand. And having read the terrible service by the agent and ridiculous prices for servicing, I never stepped there at all.

At the 5th year mark of the car's COE, wear and tear started to show up. E.g. terrible cold rattling of the EP6 engine (which was actually present since the day I bought the car), the moon roof fabric starting to peel off, but my biggest fear was the engine. It seemed that some say the rattling could lead to very expensive repairs, but some said it was normal. And thankfully, I did not have to encounter the electronics going haywire and christmas trees lighting up, which some owners experience. In the end though, I decided to end my Peugeot adventure shortly after that.

Would I buy another Peugeot? No. Ultimately, for the middle class like myself, money matters and the potential of having to spend a lot, makes owning this car not a practical option. Sure, there are lemons for every brand, but there must be a reason why sgcarmart and carousell has so many Altises etc with extended COEs and hardly or no Peugeots / Alfas / Citroens. 

rarely see such detailed review. Love it.
almost wanted to get a 5008..

 

These days i buy cars based on how long the manufacturer provides warranty. If they so lack confidence like the Peugeot (only 3 years @ 100KM).. it means they themselves also think that their cars CMI so dare not assured a longer period.

Edited December 10, 2019 by andersseanx

[Sopskysalat]

3 hours ago, toycamry said:

When people say Jap cars are built for reliability, believe them. Sure, they may not always look the sexiest, in fact most Jap cars look like how people in their society procreate; mechanical and functional.

I was foolish enough to own a used Peugeot 308 until recently, attracted by its looks and price. Unfortunately, I did not take the hint either when the used car shark agreed to my few thousands off his sticker price. 

To be fair, I did not own the car long enough (3 years) to experience more of the Pug issues many of its owners highlight. It was very comfortable to drive (to me) and I drove it up to KL many times (excluding the more regular trips to JB and nearer destinations). The furthest was to Penang and back in two days, maintaining 130kmh with the cruise control. And the good thing was , even the malaysian abang car thieves didn't want to bother stealing a Pug; I once parked it for 5 days at the KLIA long-term parking, the only SG plate car there and returned to find it untouched (Try that with your Honda or Toyota).

What did I hate? Upon receiving ownership of the car, I was forced to spend $500 because the air-con relay (or something like that) was damaged and I had been looking like a fool sweating it out for the first few days before finally taking it to a specialist workshop. $500 for a small piece of plastic? The workshop's reply was "These kind of cars, you should expect this type of pricing", and that mantra followed throughout my ownership of the car. As it was, I had never come across a failure of this 'relay' in other cars, especially since the car was only 2 years old at that time.  In any case, almost every part / item linked to the brand was comparatively more expensive than a Jap / Korean car.

I did not find the rationale often given by workshops and even the parts importer reasonable; "Peugeot is a 'conti' car". Well if its a Merc or BMW, fine. But Peugeot is a bread and butter, budget, low-at most mid range brand European make.

Being budget conscious, for minor or regular servicing like oil change, I usually bought the parts from the parts importer (not agent) and had them changed at a normal (not the specialist) workshop. There came problem 2. In the initial phase of ownership, I had difficulty finding a workshop near my area which was willing to even do oil /spark plug change even though I had the oil filter and plugs with me (obviously the workshop did not have these on hand). Their reason for turning me away? One uncle who was changing the oil of a Honda stepped out, saw my car and said, "Sorry this brand I cannot do". Another time, my first flat tyre with this car, I called a nearby tyre shop and asked for a tow and possibly replace the tyre. When I was asked what model, and replied, the guy said, "Sorry Peugeot we don't handle because the wheel need special tool. You go back to the agent". Special tool? Apparently workshops in JB (which I went to later on) did not need any special tools. Cannot change oil? Just use the vacuum pump to suck out the oil and fill it back like any other car? So, those were the issues I faced initially. Of course, there were local workshops which could handle the car, and it took me a while to find them. It's just that you can't go to any random workshop to get things fixed or done as you could with a more common brand. And having read the terrible service by the agent and ridiculous prices for servicing, I never stepped there at all.

At the 5th year mark of the car's COE, wear and tear started to show up. E.g. terrible cold rattling of the EP6 engine (which was actually present since the day I bought the car), the moon roof fabric starting to peel off, but my biggest fear was the engine. It seemed that some say the rattling could lead to very expensive repairs, but some said it was normal. And thankfully, I did not have to encounter the electronics going haywire and christmas trees lighting up, which some owners experience. In the end though, I decided to end my Peugeot adventure shortly after that.

Would I buy another Peugeot? No. Ultimately, for the middle class like myself, money matters and the potential of having to spend a lot, makes owning this car not a practical option. Sure, there are lemons for every brand, but there must be a reason why sgcarmart and carousell has so many Altises etc with extended COEs and hardly or no Peugeots / Alfas / Citroens. 

A hit or miss thingy. Based on what you highlighted, I do not think they are major issues not to extent parts are falling apart leading to 4-5 digits repairs.

[toycamry]

18 hours ago, andersseanx said:

rarely see such detailed review. Love it.
almost wanted to get a 5008..

 

These days i buy cars based on how long the manufacturer provides warranty. If they so lack confidence like the Peugeot (only 3 years @ 100KM).. it means they themselves also think that their cars CMI so dare not assured a longer period.

Reviews for the local distributor / service center also not good either