Renegade777 5th Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 i really really doubt it's social behaviour that they want to control. It's more likely religious, ethnic/minority or people they want to watch... You are the type that is unfair and bias character. You judge people in a way do whatever also wrong. Do this cannot or do that also cannot. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) You are the type that is unfair and bias character. You judge people in a way do whatever also wrong. Do this cannot or do that also cannot. U may want to elaborate further what u mean? From the earlier comment u quoted, this "social responsibility" requirement is very vague and state defined. For example, this is stated by their own chinese media that loyalty to the communist party ideals is also part of this "social responsibility". With great control, comes the potential for great abuse. Pres Xi should implement a rating of every citizen going overseas, any feedback less than 5 stars then restrict Already done since long long ago. Now they even up their game by kidnapping people back. The Russians just poison their dissidents. China kidnaps them back to face mock trial lol Edited June 25, 2018 by Lala81 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic June 25, 2018 Author Share June 25, 2018 PRC got Xi ... Russia got Putin ... huat ah! Hearsay the rest of the candidates are all not up to mark, so he got re-elected again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 I think to control china especially their barbaric citizen, they need tight control of ruling party with absolute power otherwise such a big population with democracy will led to a problem like india But another problem with single party is that if party make mistake, then die cos no one correct them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 I think to control china especially their barbaric citizen, they need tight control of ruling party with absolute power otherwise such a big population with democracy will led to a problem like india But another problem with single party is that if party make mistake, then die cos no one correct them Got that right. Just need to look at Indonesia to see what happens when the barbarians are let loose to do what they please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Got that right. Just need to look at Indonesia to see what happens when the barbarians are let loose to do what they please. Agree, democracy will only bring in more clowns to oppose the good ruling party. Also some democracy countries only allow 2 term presidential which is to prevent gain of president power but at same time it could mean good president is limited to 2 terms. Resulting in like how trump get elected lol There are some pros and cons but in this case china need one solid good ruling party to decide its future. Otherwise china political will end up in a mess like in taiwan lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic August 5, 2018 Author Share August 5, 2018 China’s season of discontent signals Xi Jinping needs a new plan https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/chinas-season-of-discontent-signals-xi-jinping-needs-a-new-plan/news-story/c69da3c06914cd014ed6c56ada2a9a52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun366 Turbocharged August 5, 2018 Share August 5, 2018 China has always has this thing when the pot boils over. The OG in the Asian region that unfortunately or fortunately developed away from the influence of the cradle of civilization -- the middle east. There will be splits but controlled splits. Should be looking out for 张学良 type of characters. The tiger of the northeast. For some of our abangs. Little pinkie already have nine kings. What more to be said of human development? India and China are similar but fundamentally different. India did not have Qin to unify and completely eradicate dissent, such as mass burial of scholars/opposition members. China does not have institutionalized racism. Offensive as it sounds, the effect exists today in everyday lives. A play would be to put up a fall guy Such as employment of a dictator to set the board for future play. Taiwan politics is China in micro. Added on with the burden of stewardship of all the 'tea' of china. Conflict in of itself. Return all the money and walk. Keep part of the money and stay. Keep the money and leave. Continue as is and keep the money. No kleptocracy in Taiwan. Can be sure of it. Chinese frogmen power. China's problem now are the northern provinces. The north south balik balik divide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 If we use the eyes of the west to view china, you will be clouded and not able to understand them. China will fail badly using their system, far worse then Russia. One man power is also no good for a country but for now, there is no better solution. Anyway, is there a perfect solution anywhere? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 Agree, democracy will only bring in more clowns to oppose the good ruling party. Also some democracy countries only allow 2 term presidential which is to prevent gain of president power but at same time it could mean good president is limited to 2 terms. Resulting in like how trump get elected lol There are some pros and cons but in this case china need one solid good ruling party to decide its future. Otherwise china political will end up in a mess like in taiwan lol I don't disagree that an autocratic way may end up with more benefit to the nation. Especially when the leader is bent on improving the country in some nature by all means. The problem is that XJP has disrupted the inherent stability of the Communist Party. For years after Mao and DXP, the balance between the princelings and the technocratic background of the party has been kept in check by the 2 blocs within the communist party. Both had significant power and could balance themselves out. But XJP has tilted this balance in favour of the princelings. Now the leadership and rise of party members is only dependent on one thing, the favour of XJP and his favoured subordinates. Of course the communisty party in china is such an enormous organisation, the talents will still rise but he's severely weakened the youth communist league (which was actually the main path that a non-connected talented Chinese communist party leader would progress upwards) Hu Jintao was such a member. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Youth_League_of_China https://www.theepochtimes.com/xi-jinping-weakens-the-partys-communist-youth-league-and-potential-rival-faction_2367285.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 (edited) I think most people don't understand how much control is going on in china and think it's like what we have here. This 80+ year old university professor was recently arrested mid-interview for giving interviews simply saying that the chinese govt should be spending the $$$ for OROB on the own country citizens rather than using it in overseas countries. If that happened in SG, MCF/EDMW would have been shut down 10 years ago. China’s season of discontent signals Xi Jinping needs a new plan https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/chinas-season-of-discontent-signals-xi-jinping-needs-a-new-plan/news-story/c69da3c06914cd014ed6c56ada2a9a52 this link is only for paid subscribers. Edited August 6, 2018 by Lala81 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun366 Turbocharged August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 The YCL need grease one. No grease no up. Grease smelly and dirty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 I think most people don't understand how much control is going on in china and think it's like what we have here. This 80+ year old university professor was recently arrested mid-interview for giving interviews simply saying that the chinese govt should be spending the $$$ for OROB on the own country citizens rather than using it in overseas countries. If that happened in SG, MCF/EDMW would have been shut down 10 years ago. this link is only for paid subscribers. During 1 of run MU, i told you guys that i have a blackout wechat moment post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 There were a few policy changes that would make a lot of older CCP members uncomfortable. Mainly, the changes had to do with removing the policies put in place by DXP including two-term policy after the cultural revolution that would limit the powers of individual leaders. There has also already been actions taken to re-write the history of cultural revolution, from a "human mistake that must never be repeated" to become "an unavoidable hurdle in political reforms". This can be very dangerous, together with revival of personality cult. Yeah. What he has done so far is good for himself but not good for the party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 Christopher Robin: Winnie the Pooh film denied release in China - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45083944 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Political film. not gay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Political film. its cuz of the pooh bear (Xi) and tigger (obama) photo lol. there's one with the jap dude too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic August 8, 2018 Share August 8, 2018 There were brief period of pro-liberal leadership after cultural revolution. The early 1980's was one before TAM and sudden clamp down, the liberal leaders were condemned. Then very briefly in early to mid-2000's when transitioning from one-man to collective leadership in the Politburo. During these times, independent journalism was very active. Now, it's back to one man leadership and extreme control. In Mao's era, there was a "Hundred Flowers" liberal movement to encourage and reward critics so that the gahmen can improve. Alas, it only ended with those who spoke up got sent to labor camps. There's only misery if u upset the hierachy. Even during cultural revolution, the students who upset the hierachy thinking they were the new leaders of the revolution, were themselves sent off to the countryside where they got a taste of their own medicine. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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