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Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

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The Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance!

It was a bit out-of-the-blue for me.

https://paultan.org/...ta-to-top-spot/

Edited by Toeknee_33, 01 February 2018 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:10 AM

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The Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance!

It was a bit out-of-the-blue for me.

https://paultan.org/...ta-to-top-spot/

It was expected.
It shows that Carlos Ghosn is effective in bringing a pile of drab cars into the best selling cars...
The only way for anyone to beat it is maybe Hyundai buying fiat Chrysler (very unlikely)
Even if it happens , it may not be good.
Chrysler has brought ‘misfortune ‘ to fiat...


And buyers perception of Toyota has dropped due to numerous recalls.Bummer.

Edited by Brass, 02 February 2018 - 12:10 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:18 AM

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Wow I guess some ppl r gonna be very upset

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:44 AM

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It was expected.
It shows that Carlos Ghosn is effective in bringing a pile of drab cars into the best selling cars...
The only way for anyone to beat it is maybe Hyundai buying fiat Chrysler (very unlikely)
Even if it happens , it may not be good.
Chrysler has brought âmisfortune â to fiat...


And buyers perception of Toyota has dropped due to numerous recalls.Bummer.

Chrysler had also brought issues to Daimler Benz (then re-named Daimler-Chrysler ... but only for a while, before they cutoff Chrysler like a hot potato!).
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Posted 03 February 2018 - 05:05 PM

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Wow I guess some ppl r gonna be very upset


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 06:40 PM

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Toyota dropped to 3rd behind VW group some more...
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Posted 03 February 2018 - 07:30 PM

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This type of numbers game must take with pinch of salt.

 

The big player can just buy a small/declining marque and add to total sales. That's how Nissan went up, by suddenly adding Mitsubishi.

 

And VW was going around buying every small/dying european marque in the 90s to expand.

 

Respect to Hyundai/Kia for sticking to growing their real sales rather than doing the M&A game.

 

Toyota didn't add Subaru (they are part owners) & Mazda (they are part owners) to their numbers.

 

Anyway, being No.1 in sales doesn't influence buyers one bit... is still about branding and quality and reliability.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:45 AM

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This type of numbers game must take with pinch of salt.

 

The big player can just buy a small/declining marque and add to total sales. That's how Nissan went up, by suddenly adding Mitsubishi.

 

And VW was going around buying every small/dying european marque in the 90s to expand.

 

Respect to Hyundai/Kia for sticking to growing their real sales rather than doing the M&A game.

 

Toyota didn't add Subaru (they are part owners) & Mazda (they are part owners) to their numbers.

 

Anyway, being No.1 in sales doesn't influence buyers one bit... is still about branding and quality and reliability.

 

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Lexus 100% 

Subaru Corporation - 16.66% 2008

Isuzu Motors - 5.9% 2006

Noble Automotive - 23% 2014

Hino Motors - 50.1%

Mazda - 5%


Edited by Odyssey2011, 04 February 2018 - 09:48 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:04 AM

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The Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance!

It was a bit out-of-the-blue for me.

https://paultan.org/...ta-to-top-spot/

why is it a surprise? 3 big companies total their sales together versus individual company, riding on the back of recovering world economy and other car comoany's set back from e.g. airbags.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:33 AM

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Toyota didn't add Subaru (they are part owners) & Mazda (they are part owners) to their numbers.

 

 

 

Daihatsu's technology belong to Toyota. The Malaysia Perodua sells re-badged Daihatsu car.  Perodua alone sold over 207,100 vehicles in 2016.

 



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:29 AM

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This type of numbers game must take with pinch of salt.

The big player can just buy a small/declining marque and add to total sales. That's how Nissan went up, by suddenly adding Mitsubishi.

And VW was going around buying every small/dying european marque in the 90s to expand.

Respect to Hyundai/Kia for sticking to growing their real sales rather than doing the M&A game.

Toyota didn't add Subaru (they are part owners) & Mazda (they are part owners) to their numbers.

Anyway, being No.1 in sales doesn't influence buyers one bit... is still about branding and quality and reliability.

How Nissan sold more cars in 2017 than the year before is puzzling, it didn't have much new and exciting models, damn jialat line up.

Looks like sales of EV are picking up speed everywhere except in SG. Our scholars are behind the curve again or they have something up their sleeves for this one? Maybe they are betting on hydrogen fueled car? 😂

Looks like the Chinese will soon sell more EV than anyone else, how did Toyota squander their early lead?

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:12 PM

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The Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance!

It was a bit out-of-the-blue for me.

https://paultan.org/...ta-to-top-spot/

 

There is a reason why Renault-Nissan Alliance decided to buy Mitsubishi, when the latter is having trouble with series of scandal...

 

I am guessing that in the next few years, we shall see these:

- Nissan focusing more on green vehicles (EV & PHV especially) and probably executive sedan (Tenna, etc.)

- Renault with MPVs disguised as crossover (Grand Espace, Grand Scenic, etc.) and hot hatch (Clio & Megane RS, etc.)

- Dacia targeting budget buyers in Europe (compact car and small SUV)

- Mitsubishi targeting budget buyers in Asia (compact car and a broad range of SUV)

 

Any segment I missed out?


How Nissan sold more cars in 2017 than the year before is puzzling, it didn't have much new and exciting models, damn jialat line up.

Looks like sales of EV are picking up speed everywhere except in SG. Our scholars are behind the curve again or they have something up their sleeves for this one? Maybe they are betting on hydrogen fueled car? 😂

Looks like the Chinese will soon sell more EV than anyone else, how did Toyota squander their early lead?

 

Nissan Leaf is very well received worldwide, EXCEPT here in Singapore. And don't underestimate the purchasing power of the Chinese (China)...


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