Jamesc Hypersonic March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 I think people have to make the distinction between pork fat and pork products like sausages and bacon. Sausages and bacon is not unhealthy because of the pork fat its unhealthy because of the chemical preservatives like the nitrates. In the 60's a Harvard professor went around the world and lives with natives and ate what they ate and had very low cholesterol. He lived with Eskimos and ate a lot of fat from whales, seals and fish and had low cholesterol. Not surprising as we all know fish fat is good. He also live with natives that ate wild pigs and goats with all their fats and he still have low cholesterol. This one was the strange one to me. Eating beef steaks, roast pork and roast lamb is good for cholesterol. This is very different from eating beef burgers and chicken nuggets which are both unhealthy because of the chemicals and preservatives and the method of cooking being deep fried in oil. ↡ Advertisement 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 I think people have to make the distinction between pork fat and pork products like sausages and bacon. Sausages and bacon is not unhealthy because of the pork fat its unhealthy because of the chemical preservatives like the nitrates. In the 60's a Harvard professor went around the world and lives with natives and ate what they ate and had very low cholesterol. He lived with Eskimos and ate a lot of fat from whales, seals and fish and had low cholesterol. Not surprising as we all know fish fat is good. He also live with natives that ate wild pigs and goats with all their fats and he still have low cholesterol. This one was the strange one to me. Eating beef steaks, roast pork and roast lamb is good for cholesterol. This is very different from eating beef burgers and chicken nuggets which are both unhealthy because of the chemicals and preservatives and the method of cooking being deep fried in oil. I'm trending towards eating more natural food and less processed food. Chemicals and preservatives are certainly something to avoid as much as possible. Deep fried is always frowned upon as bad, but maybe we should be looking at what kind of oil it's deep fried in. For the hawkers, it's processed vegetable oil which is commonly available in a tin can. Pork lard is harder to come by since it doesn't come in a can and need to be cooked. For the natives, what they have to cook with is natural animal fat, not processed vegetable oil in a can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 Look out for nitrite in the ingredient list. This is carcinogenic. Almost all processed meat, bacon, ham, have this. Luckily I don't eat much of these bacon or ham, except when eating subway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 I'm trending towards eating more natural food and less processed food. Chemicals and preservatives are certainly something to avoid as much as possible. Deep fried is always frowned upon as bad, but maybe we should be looking at what kind of oil it's deep fried in. For the hawkers, it's processed vegetable oil which is commonly available in a tin can. Pork lard is harder to come by since it doesn't come in a can and need to be cooked. For the natives, what they have to cook with is natural animal fat, not processed vegetable oil in a can. Even if it's is natural good oil, deep frying is bad. Prolong high heating will damage all oil. This is one reason why most vege or seed oil or even the non virgin , non cold press olive are bad. When they are processed, long duration of high heat are needed to extract the most of the oil. If really need to fry, just pan fry in medium heat with lard or butter. But I use rice bran oil, becoz it has the highest smoking temp among the oils found in the supermarket , i.e. probably the hardest oil to be damaged by prolong heating But it's still highly processed. But they are cheaper than butter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic March 5, 2018 Share March 5, 2018 Even if it's is natural good oil, deep frying is bad. Prolong high heating will damage all oil. This is one reason why most vege or seed oil or even the non virgin , non cold press olive are bad. When they are processed, long duration of high heat are needed to extract the most of the oil. If really need to fry, just pan fry in medium heat with lard or butter. But I use rice bran oil, becoz it has the highest smoking temp among the oils found in the supermarket , i.e. probably the hardest oil to be damaged by prolong heating But it's still highly processed. But they are cheaper than butter. Yeah. that's true. High heat damage and breaks down oil. I'm using oven more for baking food with less oil, instead of frying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged March 5, 2018 Author Share March 5, 2018 time to ask my wife do more siobak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic March 6, 2018 Share March 6, 2018 Glad to see so many comrades in common with regards to food, as compared to most others who still reject healthy fats because of dogmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic March 6, 2018 Share March 6, 2018 Moderation is the key. It's just that animal fat has been vilified for too long and vegetable oil claimed to healthier, which probably turns out to be worse. Do you still cooked with "healthy" canola (Canadian Oil) oil ? That's industrial lubricant, which the industry cleverly marketed as edible cooking oil. I'm not sure whether it is used as industrial lubricant or not but even if it is, so what? You should evaluate it based on whether or not it is healthy and edible instead. My take is yes, so I am using it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic March 6, 2018 Share March 6, 2018 I'm not sure whether it is used as industrial lubricant or not but even if it is, so what? You should evaluate it based on whether or not it is healthy and edible instead. My take is yes, so I am using it. Edible? Yes. Healthy? I'm not too sure. Canola is derived from rapeseed of which 90% of the world's crops are genetically modified by the world's biggest GMO company, Monsanto. Source: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/canola-oil-good-or-bad#section3 I'm sticking to my butter, coconut and olive oils. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 So now can eat sio bak without guilt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged March 7, 2018 Author Share March 7, 2018 So now can eat sio bak without guilt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic March 7, 2018 Share March 7, 2018 told you all liow ...eat more lor-bak instead !Sio bak better than lor bak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged March 7, 2018 Author Share March 7, 2018 Sio bak better than lor bak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 10, 2018 Share March 10, 2018 I guess any kind of fried food is bad. We should cook on a spit like the old days. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piyopico Supercharged March 15, 2018 Share March 15, 2018 There is an old thread on low carb high fat diet. A variation would be paleo or caveman diet. It has worked well for me for the last 5 to 6 years. Generally not able to gain weight plus maybe see doctor maybe once every two years. It helps that your spouse is on the same diet. My maid who eats loads of wholesome grain, vegetables and wheat bread falls sick every other month. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 17, 2018 Share March 17, 2018 There is an old thread on low carb high fat diet. A variation would be paleo or caveman diet. It has worked well for me for the last 5 to 6 years. Generally not able to gain weight plus maybe see doctor maybe once every two years. It helps that your spouse is on the same diet. My maid who eats loads of wholesome grain, vegetables and wheat bread falls sick every other month. You have convinced me. I am throwing out all the wholesome grain, vegetables and wheat bread and stick to meat meat meat for health reasons. The sacrifices I have to make for health its just so hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 17, 2018 Share March 17, 2018 And if the spouse wants to eat all the junk food like wholesome grain, vegetables and wheat bread then just let her eat lah, its her life. We just stay healthy with all the meat. You can tell people the right thing to do but you cannot make the horse eat the oats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrincipal 1st Gear March 18, 2018 Share March 18, 2018 https://www.peta.org/living/food/top-10-reasons-eat-pigs/ Still a matter of fact that they are loaded with artery-clogging cholesterol and saturated fat ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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