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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:00 PM

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Depends on how dealer is going to price it. 

The old one was priced same as the Harrier when I visited the showroom. Haha, so the new one could jolly well be priced higher and we will see very little of them on the roads despite the Harrier being "positioned higher".


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 03:07 PM

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The old one was priced same as the Harrier when I visited the showroom. Haha, so the new one could jolly well be priced higher and we will see very little of them on the roads despite the Harrier being "positioned higher".

 

BM should bring in the new RAV4 with smaller engines, like 1.5l or 1.8l.

 

The current 2.0l cannot sell, I think is the selling price and road tax for such compact SUV. 


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 04:45 PM

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BM should bring in the new RAV4 with smaller engines, like 1.5l or 1.8l.

 

The current 2.0l cannot sell, I think is the selling price and road tax for such compact SUV. 

 

agreed... no bang for buck. 


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 09:31 PM

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BM should bring in the new RAV4 with smaller engines, like 1.5l or 1.8l.

The current 2.0l cannot sell, I think is the selling price and road tax for such compact SUV.

RAV4 got 1.5 or 1.8 meh?

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 10:26 PM

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RAV4 got 1.5 or 1.8 meh?

 

The 2nd gen RAV4 has the 1.8l engine.

And some engines are downsizing recently.

So why not?


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 11:06 PM

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The 2nd gen RAV4 has the 1.8l engine.
And some engines are downsizing recently.
So why not?

Does Toyota Jp uses these engine or not?

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:16 AM

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The old one was priced same as the Harrier when I visited the showroom. Haha, so the new one could jolly well be priced higher and we will see very little of them on the roads despite the Harrier being "positioned higher".

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Indeed and one look at the price of RAV4 when there to book the Harrier Turbo is that someone in BM should be fired ... 4WD indeed preferred but how to compare to turbo charged 350Nm and 224 bhp of the latter .. lol !

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:53 AM

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Hi Andrew,

 

Indeed and one look at the price of RAV4 when there to book the Harrier Turbo is that someone in BM should be fired ... 4WD indeed preferred but how to compare to turbo charged 350Nm and 224 bhp of the latter .. lol !

Cheers,

 

Richard

Haha, the pricing of the RAV4 is actually in line with Toyota overall pricing. The Harrier HT is "cheap" because BM wants to compete with the PI which had a long headstart with Harriers. Of course you have to be strange to choose the RAV4 over the Harrier.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 11:10 AM

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Haha, the pricing of the RAV4 is actually in line with Toyota overall pricing. The Harrier HT is "cheap" because BM wants to compete with the PI which had a long headstart with Harriers. Of course you have to be strange to choose the RAV4 over the Harrier.

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Indeed .... and hence never looking much into Toyotas until the Harrier Turbo.

 

Cheers,

 

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:21 PM

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Hi Andrew,

 

Indeed .... and hence never looking much into Toyotas until the Harrier Turbo.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

 

I find toyota/lexus sales person very amazing. i asked why e250 no turbo engine. the lexus sales told me toyota dont believe in turbo engine. they are strong believer of NA engine because they last longer. then i asked why IS and RX now into turbo engine and harrier too. the reply is toyota then realised they made a mistake so they going back to NA for new models. i scratch my head



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I usually only ask these type of question to the SEs for self entertainment...to see what kind of bull crap they can pull from their pocket of tricks. Most of the time I am well rewarded with new level of stupidity... :D

 

I find toyota/lexus sales person very amazing. i asked why e250 no turbo engine. the lexus sales told me toyota dont believe in turbo engine. they are strong believer of NA engine because they last longer. then i asked why IS and RX now into turbo engine and harrier too. the reply is toyota then realised they made a mistake so they going back to NA for new models. i scratch my head

 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:35 PM

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I find toyota/lexus sales person very amazing. i asked why e250 no turbo engine. the lexus sales told me toyota dont believe in turbo engine. they are strong believer of NA engine because they last longer. then i asked why IS and RX now into turbo engine and harrier too. the reply is toyota then realised they made a mistake so they going back to NA for new models. i scratch my head

Hi Heman,

So far, no SEs impress me on tech but must say PA for Audi quite pro ... but then they also have jockey to drive and send back test drive car and not by themselves.

I am seriously considering to have 2nd career after retirement to cater for less informed older folks who have cpf $ .. keke !

Cheers.

Richard

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I find toyota/lexus sales person very amazing. i asked why e250 no turbo engine. the lexus sales told me toyota dont believe in turbo engine. they are strong believer of NA engine because they last longer. then i asked why IS and RX now into turbo engine and harrier too. the reply is toyota then realised they made a mistake so they going back to NA for new models. i scratch my head

It is true that Toyota doesn't believe in turbo. The last turbo is Caldina GT.

Toyota bet on petrol hybrid technology since 1997. There is even fuel cell hybrid in Toyota Mirai.

Why Toyota goes back to turbo?

Europe.

European is addicted to low RPM high torque German cars.

Toyota hybrid doesn't sell well in Europe as compared to US of A.

Can I go interview at BM for SE position?
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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:18 PM

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It is true that Toyota doesn't believe in turbo. The last turbo is Caldina GT.

Toyota bet on petrol hybrid technology since 1997. There is even fuel cell hybrid in Toyota Mirai.

Why Toyota goes back to turbo?

Europe.

European is addicted to low RPM high torque German cars.

Toyota hybrid doesn't sell well in Europe as compared to US of A.

Can I go interview at BM for SE position?

You sound more convincing although I don't know if you are smoking me or not but I buy the explanation unlike his .

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:41 PM

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You sound more convincing although I don't know if you are smoking me or not but I buy the explanation unlike his .

What I said can be google easily.

6th gen Celica is the last turbocharged Celica. The engine is hand over to Caldina for 2 more gen.

Caldina GT stops production in 2007. In Sg, I think only got 1.8L. There were some discussion on this car in MCF.

Turbo only re-appears in Toyota stable when Lexus NX was launched.

In Europe, ppl like small turbocharged car. None of Toyota stable fit European profile.

That's why got 1.2t and 1.8t.

Prius was launched in 1997. In 1997, 7th gen Celica was launched with 1.8L NA.

It is more for the American market. Celebrity likes it.

Despite the popularity of petrol hybrid in USA, sales of hybrid car in Europe was bad.

Sales of petrol hybrid only increase in past 2 yrs in Europe in line with explosion of EV.

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Can I go interview at BM for SE position?

 

Go get the position.

Next time MCFers buy Toyota cars from you, give them 50% discount.  :a-m1212:


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Go get the position.
Next time MCFers buy Toyota cars from you, give them 50% discount. :a-m1212:

U think I carrot head ah?

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U think I carrot head ah?

 

Valid for MCFers only, not everyone.  :grin:


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Europe is just enamoured with turbo diesels (until recently). 

The japs (not only Toyota) doesn't have passenger cars turbo diesel know how or willing to go into that market. 

 

Turbo petrol is a way to beat ever tightening emission control. 

 

It is true that Toyota doesn't believe in turbo. The last turbo is Caldina GT.

Toyota bet on petrol hybrid technology since 1997. There is even fuel cell hybrid in Toyota Mirai.

Why Toyota goes back to turbo?

Europe.

European is addicted to low RPM high torque German cars.

Toyota hybrid doesn't sell well in Europe as compared to US of A.

Can I go interview at BM for SE position?

 


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Is BM unveiling new model today? Based on their FB page, seems like something is going on at 3pm.


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