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Poll: The State of LTA (52 member(s) have cast votes)

Does LTA need a total overhaul?

  1. Yes - sack the top management and rebuid with a new management more in touch with the ground (48 votes [92.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 92.31%

  2. No - top management can't control everything, the problem lies with the civil servants under their charge (4 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 09:56 PM

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Read a coverage in which LTA was singled out as one of the "problematic" statutory boards...
 

“It also depends on which Government agency. For example, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) is actually really late to the game. With the Ellison Building incident, they were reticent about engaging heritage consultants to advise them. They wanted to put a road through and wanted to take down parts of the structure of certain shophouses. It was a protected building yet they wanted to do this.

Read more at https://www.channeln...record-10181678

 

I'm sure many of us have our gripes with LTA but to be singled out by an Associate Professor takes this to another level, it isn't just about disgruntled road users. Dr Lai seemed to highlight several examples, all directly linked to misgivings with LTA. Over the years, I think LTA has really shown that it is one of the slowest and laidback statutory board with a questionable track record.

 

1. Failure to kick SMRT on its butt earlier on until massive problems arose in public train system

2. Slow response to personal mobility devices after countless incidences

3. Almost at a loss what to do with the legal framework when ride-haling technology came into the picture

4. Refused to acknowledge the flaws in COE system while yet continuing to shout control of vehicle populations

 

I don't know, there may be others you guys wanna add on.

 



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Posted 29 April 2018 - 10:18 PM

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I don't hope much from them actually, just improve traffic and road conditions will do. Some roads are so overloaded with vehicles because of more condos/buildings being built in that area but the roads remain the same.

 

 


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Posted 29 April 2018 - 10:58 PM

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 11:50 PM

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I don't hope much from them actually, just improve traffic and road conditions will do. Some roads are so overloaded with vehicles because of more condos/buildings being built in that area but the roads remain the same.

It could be demographically, certain locations car owners have decreased despite increased build up. I see many empty car parks nowadays especially after ERP gantry was erected on almost every car park.

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 11:54 PM

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It could be demographically, certain locations car owners have decreased despite increased build up. I see many empty car parks nowadays especially after ERP gantry was erected on almost every car park.

More likely people are leaving earlier these days to avoid timings paying ERP.

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 11:57 PM

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More likely people are leaving earlier these days to avoid timings paying ERP.

Carpark more empty especially the older condos and HDB carparks.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:02 AM

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Carpark more empty especially the older condos and HDB carparks.

HDB carparks, I still see places with cars parking roadsides. Not sure about older condos but most likely more are rented units.
But sometimes as early as 6am, some cars are already out and some expressways like CTE are quite heavily used so early in the mornings.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:09 AM

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Read a coverage in which LTA was singled out as one of the "problematic" statutory boards...


I'm sure many of us have our gripes with LTA but to be singled out by an Associate Professor takes this to another level, it isn't just about disgruntled road users. Dr Lai seemed to highlight several examples, all directly linked to misgivings with LTA. Over the years, I think LTA has really shown that it is one of the slowest and laidback statutory board with a questionable track record.

1. Failure to kick SMRT on its butt earlier on until massive problems arose in public train system
2. Slow response to personal mobility devices after countless incidences
3. Almost at a loss what to do with the legal framework when ride-haling technology came into the picture
4. Refused to acknowledge the flaws in COE system while yet continuing to shout control of vehicle populations

I don't know, there may be others you guys wanna add on.

5. Road conditions seem to be getting bad with unevenly paved patches. Basically, lta does not seem to go down to the grounds to make sure roads are properly patched up after road works.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:12 AM

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Indeed, road conditions are terrible nowadays.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:13 AM

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I don't hope much from them actually, just improve traffic and road conditions will do. Some roads are so overloaded with vehicles because of more condos/buildings being built in that area but the roads remain the same.

Totally Agree.

Roads conditions are really like lousy on many trunk roads.

Expressway way are still quite ok.
But it's the smaller roads many are lousy conditions. Those utilities & fibre excavations on the road have crappy reinstatement works.

Just few months back I wrote to LTA on the roads around my neighbourhood, almost all, I mean every single road has such work.

They only repair the road immediately outside the MSCP.
Most are still lousy. If such things bring to MP will probably get shot back that theses are minor discomfort, we have bigger things to worry.

Why we complain on such small issues on only affect a small group of car owners.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:17 AM

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5. Road conditions seem to be getting bad with unevenly paved patches. Basically, lta does not seem to go down to the grounds to make sure roads are properly patched up after road works.

 

Yes - Many brand new roads are uneven.  Foreign workers checking foreign workers....  Congrats LTA - You have finally helped Singapore achieve 3rd World standards at First World costs!


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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:17 AM

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5. Road conditions seem to be getting bad with unevenly paved patches. Basically, lta does not seem to go down to the grounds to make sure roads are properly patched up after road works.

I think the most cost effective way is to wait for feedback than sending out cars to survey the road.

But sometimes feedback only treat the one spot.

Send car out can hit tree. So seems like they haven't been driving much nowadays.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

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Sgp need real pros in their respective portfolio..
Not YES men n hear only the good things experts..
Example;
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Indeed, road conditions are terrible nowadays.


With no proper supervision, all roads will lead to 3rd World standard,.
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Totally Agree.

Roads conditions are really like lousy on many trunk roads.

Expressway way are still quite ok.
But it's the smaller roads many are lousy conditions. Those utilities & fibre excavations on the road have crappy reinstatement works.

Just few months back I wrote to LTA on the roads around my neighbourhood, almost all, I mean every single road has such work.

They only repair the road immediately outside the MSCP.
Most are still lousy. If such things bring to MP will probably get shot back that theses are minor discomfort, we have bigger things to worry.

Why we complain on such small issues on only affect a small group of car owners.

I will complain again and again until they get their job done.
The reason that these agencies don't do their work because the people don't push them.
Either push them to get the job done, else just vote them out.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 08:32 AM

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I don't hope much from them actually, just improve traffic and road conditions will do. Some roads are so overloaded with vehicles because of more condos/buildings being built in that area but the roads remain the same.

 

I think these are the 'bo pian' factors that figure into CS and ministries work ... each ministry has its own priority target, and there are also national interests and agenda.

 

Sometimes the road cannot be expanded anymore. If you see the new BTO constructions these days, the buildings are coming right up to the side of the roads, leaving just enough buffer space for a small lane leading to carpark and a sidewalk. I can't imagine the noise level for the residents living in these type of new BTOs ...

 

And yet with such restrictions, there seems to be more and more dwellings being stuffed into already congested areas. Looks like some other ministry's 'increase SG population' target is taking priority over LTA's. LTA is hard-pressed to maintain the traffic flow as it is with unabated increase in population, add to the fact that the public transportation system is also fighting a losing battle. Root cause of LTA's problem is not solved!


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Posted 30 April 2018 - 08:49 AM

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I think these are the 'bo pian' factors that figure into CS and ministries work ... each ministry has its own priority target, and there are also national interests and agenda.

Sometimes the road cannot be expanded anymore. If you see the new BTO constructions these days, the buildings are coming right up to the side of the roads, leaving just enough buffer space for a small lane leading to carpark and a sidewalk. I can't imagine the noise level for the residents living in these type of new BTOs ...

And yet with such restrictions, there seems to be more and more dwellings being stuffed into already congested areas. Looks like some other ministry's 'increase SG population' target is taking priority over LTA's. LTA is hard-pressed to maintain the traffic flow as it is with unabated increase in population, add to the fact that the public transportation system is also fighting a losing battle. Root cause of LTA's problem is not solved!

And it's a sign that the population increase should be slow down even further and even stopped.
Else it's not going to be beneficial and sustainable in the long run.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:10 AM

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Yes - Many brand new roads are uneven.  Foreign workers checking foreign workers....  Congrats LTA - You have finally helped Singapore achieve 3rd World standards at First World costs!

 

It happens elsewhere as well. 



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Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:24 AM

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I think these are the 'bo pian' factors that figure into CS and ministries work ... each ministry has its own priority target, and there are also national interests and agenda.

 

Can't say I disagree with your opinion. Every ministry and stat board has their own individual roles and KPIs.

 

In LTA's case, it's worth highlighting if even an academic had singled it out to be "arrogant" to the point it feels it needn't consult anybody in what it wants to do. I think quite frequently, our Ministers cites multi-agency approach to resolving issues but here, a stat board has shown that it is not really keen to work with others, unless forced to.

 

LTA doesn't act until there are enough loss (public properties or lives) on the road. If we have a military that is preemptive to be equipped and readied in advance, I can't see why LTA can't take this approach. I do suspect it is a deeply ingrained lacklustre culture in LTA that has been there for decades.
 


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Ok lah....Some shining points are that LTA managed to add and build the MRT new lines projects the last few years, improvements to One motoring websites and shortened the queues at their Sin Ming HQ waiting time...

 

Other not so glam points include allowing bikes and cars from MY to come in and flout rules like nobody's business, failure to work with TP to enforce regulations against commercial vehicles and still beri slow when it comes to removing accident and breakdown vehicles leading to horrendous jams...like this morning I kena again on SLE... 


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I think the most cost effective way is to wait for feedback than sending out cars to survey the road.

But sometimes feedback only treat the one spot.

Send car out can hit tree. So seems like they haven't been driving much nowadays.

Use mytransport app to feedback. It allow enclosure of photo.

I had feedback about road with leftover cement. Cement was removed few days later.
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