Mkl22 Twincharged May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 I think 1990s have a lot of PI cars, compared to now. Especially from Toyota. Estima Lucida, Estima Emina, Cresta, Chaser, Mark II/ Mark II Blitz, Verossa, Sera, Passo, Picnic/Ipsum, Porte, Landcruiser, Prado, Aristo, Altezza, WILL Cypha, WILL. Celica, Windom, Echo, etc You meant More in variety? but it was much much less in volume. you also need to understand that what you posted occurred in the very late 90s to early 2000. Prior to 97 hardly any of those models mentioned. Look at the range of toyota now it has shrunk by quite a bit. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 You meant More in variety? but it was much much less in volume. you also need to understand that what you posted occurred in the very late 90s to early 2000. Prior to 97 hardly any of those models mentioned. Look at the range of toyota now it has shrunk by quite a bit. Actually many of the models I have stated started to sell in the mid 1990s and PIs were relatively new concept those days. So while having more variety, buyers are cautious buying cars from non AD.Gonna agree on the range these days. But it's because of Toyota Japan too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 Which are the cars that will not incur extra VES come July? Maybe it's time to chart them out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfaye29 Turbocharged May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 And which got rebate. Sure best seller. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrozz 3rd Gear May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 Cat B 1st bid Nov 17 = $57K 2nd bid Jan 18 = $42K Difference = -$15K 1st bid May 18 = $40K 2ns bid July maybe = 40 - 15 = $25K, possible? Thanks for the reminder. If $15K drop is a "car" crash, then coming July will be a car knock. The impact will be lesser this round as most models are "stablised" in their banding this round. Maybe a $5-7k adjustment in the July-August "ghost" period Resale cars might see a bit more pick up too as consumers turn to them due to loan rates up and the lower COE are making dealers lower their pricing slightly to be competitive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 Real life recent example: C-HR, Harrier, Civic hatchback etc PI brought first in Singapore. so PI's can bring low emission models also before AD. Your point is correct in terms of bring the car on-road because AD get batch approval from LTA and PI need approval for each car which can take 1-2 months time depend on how busy LTA schedule. Once PI Models will be examined by LTA new emission rules then future incoming shipments for all PIs will be smooth so this wont affect in long run. Also PI serve niche market and bring those models which are not available with AD, so they are here to stay. if there is an emission issue , how does PI cars get corrected? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 Which are the cars that will not incur extra VES come July? Maybe it's time to chart them out. i think bro @spring tried to start a thread for this purpose... somewhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heman75 Supercharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 If have to pay surcharge, the coe price drop and the price of the car remain the same...wouldn't the car have a higher depreciation value? the government is transferring a variable income to a fix income.. not affected by market sentiment.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafansu Turbocharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 VES rules are same for AD and PI then why only PI will be affected. In general, PI's are faster to bring new models which comply with new rules whereas AD needs some time to get new models from principal. they referring to the car models not PI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mann123 4th Gear May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 if there is an emission issue , how does PI cars get corrected? e.g. if PI import car from Japan then they can get emission readings from Japan local dealer. If fail here to secure the neutral band then still can be sold with surcharge 10K or 20K, no need to correct. After first few batches dust will be settled down and business will resume as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj_han Neutral Newbie May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 Hey there, I also committed to a new ride from PI. Hoping today can secure COE also. All the best for your COE bidding later! Heng secure liao Hope yours too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset73 5th Gear May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 Heng secure liao Hope yours too Got mine too! haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniu82 Supercharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 It's usually the same person whom the media interviews, Mr. Raymond Tang : Mr Raymond Tang from Yong Lee Seng?? He's the boss right?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQX87511 5th Gear May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 (edited) my car COE going to end, mileage just 110k , at current COE circumstance, dilemma in renew COE or scrap, if renew, 5 years or 10 years, If buy new car, really there is not attractive car in market, CRV-1.5T, even basic model price also very jialah, and only 2 Airbags, Civic-1.5T, price also very jialah, Civic-1.6NA, rather renew my existing 1.8M, Edited May 24, 2018 by MQX87511 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfaye29 Turbocharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 my car COE going to end, mileage just 110k , at current COE circumstance, dilemma in renew COE or scrap, if renew, 5 years or 10 years, If buy new car, really there is not attractive car in market, CRV-1.5T, even basic model price also very jialah, and only 2 Airbags, Civic-1.5T, price also very jialah, Civic-1.6NA, rather renew my existing 1.8M, Wat car? How's the condition. Parf value? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQX87511 5th Gear May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 Wat car? How's the condition. Parf value? Civic 1.8M, condition is ok, don't know Parf OMV around 20k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 e.g. if PI import car from Japan then they can get emission readings from Japan local dealer. If fail here to secure the neutral band then still can be sold with surcharge 10K or 20K, no need to correct. After first few batches dust will be settled down and business will resume as usual.That sounds reazonable. What about 3 years later and kanna red flag for high rpm emission test failure? Go back jupun? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrozz 3rd Gear May 24, 2018 Share May 24, 2018 my car COE going to end, mileage just 110k , at current COE circumstance, dilemma in renew COE or scrap, if renew, 5 years or 10 years, If buy new car, really there is not attractive car in market, CRV-1.5T, even basic model price also very jialah, and only 2 Airbags, Civic-1.5T, price also very jialah, Civic-1.6NA, rather renew my existing 1.8M, Yah, Kah Honda selection this year really jialat. Either lousy specs or high premium. I think they r banking on brand loyalty. Totally agree CRV specs are crap for that price, and Civic 1.6 too. The Civic 1.5T premium to car cost is high. Only City most value among their portfolio ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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