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Theoldjaffa

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I like to drink red wine too. usually 3 glasses in a week, at home.

 

i largely agree with @ash2017 in that wine is highly dependent on individual taste.

 

Expensive doesn't mean it's good.

 

Recommended by "experts" doesn't necessary mean i'd like it.

 

Of all the variants, my favourite type is Shiraz.

 

but different Shiraz from different years from different brands taste differently (duh! :P).

 

So far, i like the Shiraz from this brand called "19 Crimes". Easily available from NTUC. when on sale it can go down to $19.50.

 

Usual price is about $24 to $26 i think?

 

but this wine, once opened, must be finished in a day or 2. the taste changes and becomes flat after a few days.. or is this common for all red wines? the bottle uses a normal cap and is not corked.

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All wines will change once opened. You can buy those stopper with vacuum pump to remove air to keep for a bit longer. But as in all wines, they change with oxygen.

 

19 crime should be a blend from different vineyards. So it can be different in every batch.

You referring to this blend? I don't like this taste.

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Shiraz is the one that's nice.

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Here is MCF where 90% are drivers/riders. [drivingcar]

 

Wines and driving cannot mix together. :a-noway:

 

 

 

 

That's why no wines or liquors here .... :XD::XD::XD:

That's why I never drink and drive.

You will never see me holding

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I like to drink red wine too. usually 3 glasses in a week, at home.

 

i largely agree with @ash2017 in that wine is highly dependent on individual taste.

 

Expensive doesn't mean it's good.

 

Recommended by "experts" doesn't necessary mean i'd like it.

 

Of all the variants, my favourite type is Shiraz.

 

but different Shiraz from different years from different brands taste differently (duh! :P).

 

So far, i like the Shiraz from this brand called "19 Crimes". Easily available from NTUC. when on sale it can go down to $19.50.

 

Usual price is about $24 to $26 i think?

 

but this wine, once opened, must be finished in a day or 2. the taste changes and becomes flat after a few days.. or is this common for all red wines? the bottle uses a normal cap and is not corked.

Most red wines taste bad after 3 days.

White wines too. Unless you can ensure wine have little contact with air.

 

I have no preference on cap or cork.

Was told cap is better if want to cellar the wine. But have to ensure cap has no crack which allow air to enter.

 

 

I have also tried this wine before.

Great value for $$$, easy on the pocket and palate.

Not for people looking for big bold Barossa Shiraz.

 

This type of wine is great for regular drinking, not for cellaring long period.

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No, what I meant is the brand is more of a marketer/distributor rather than a winemaker/vineyard. It is an Aussie brand created for the US market (cheap and selling quite well, despite Aussie wines are generally unpopular in the US).

 

I like Shiraz/Syrah. Note that Shiraz is more used by the Aussie, in the US and elsewhere, it is better known as Syrah. $19+ is value for money as Aussie Shiraz tend to be more costly here due to general popularity of Aussie wines in SG. Just expect taste may vary with such brands.

 

 

You might also like to try French Cote du Rhone wines.

Cote Du Rhone is mainly Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre? Like Chateauneuf Du Pape?

 

Is there specific region of Rhone valley that only product Syrah?

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I didn't say Cote Du Rhone equals Syrah, I said you might like to try it, and you might like it. It's like saying oh I love Burgundy and therefore I love Pinot Noir, it's not like that.

 

It's like to me, Aussie Riesling and Moscato are all rubbish but those who have not tasted other types may think it is what it is, or they might actually prefer the Aussie variant.

 

Drinking wine is an adventure so just go and try, taste them. [thumbsup]

I understand it's like exploration and discovery.

 

French wines geography is really quite complex.

 

Actual my question is what is Shiraz equivalent of Syrah of Rhone.

Need to know the specìfic region to buy the Syrah. Not all brands say the varietals

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Cote du Rhone is primarily Grenache Syrah, which I find is a good match. There are some from the North which are Syrah-only but rare and are not much exported. For French wine, the appellations are well defined by the AOCs, if you look up the AOC you will know the varietals. They are indeed complex, like Chinese history.

Thanks.

Google a bit on Rhone

 

Cote'D Rotie is mainly syrah.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh%C3%B4ne_wine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhône_wine#/media/File%3AVignobles_rhone.png

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Isn't Shiraz another name for Syrah.

Just different in different countries.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrah

Yes, same varietal different spelling

USA and French for the 1st time have something in common.

 

Both call it Syrah.

 

Australian call them Shiraz

 

But due to different climate taste profile will be different.

 

In general,

Warmer climate produces more intense flavours, stronger tannins because usually fruits will be smaller so

1) more concentrated juice

2) small fruits will have higher skin to juice ratio

3) higher alcohol due to more concentration of sugar, more sugar more alcohol. Fuller body.

4) more intense flavours, usually more jammy note. Unless winemaker decide to harvest slightly earlier.

 

Cooler climate will be opposite

1) Less tannins

2) lower alcohol

3) less jammy

4) higher acidity, medium to full body.

Suntec tower 3-4 atrium has a wine fair. Can go look see if you have time ð

I went earlier

Not bad.

Have whisky, Wines and Sake.

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Cote Du Rhone is mainly Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre? Like Chateauneuf Du Pape?

 

Is there specific region of Rhone valley that only product Syrah?

Yes the northern Rhone produces some outstanding Syrah! 

Hermitage, Cote Rotie, Cornas and St Joseph have rather different character and price for the syrah grape. I really enjoy good syrahs from the northern Rhone. 

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My best value find for this year is Paul Jaboulet's Cote du Rhone Secret de Famille 2015.

A light to medium, easy drinking grenache syrah at less than $50! 

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My best value find for this year is Paul Jaboulet's Cote du Rhone Secret de Famille 2015.

A light to medium, easy drinking grenache syrah at less than $50!

Did a search on vivino,

Found two similar wines

One has word Syrah, the other is just Cote Du Rhone Secret.....

 

Has 3.6 stars from 700 plus reviews.

 

Seems like Grenache Syrah blends from old world or new world around this price range.

 

If Grenache Syrah Mourvedre will be more pricey.

 

2015 drink now or cellar?

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Wow half price ... hows was it ? ðð

 

I usually take Aus , Cali or Italy . Seldom drink Chile

Have not tried yet. Still have 1.5 bottles of 19 Crimes Shiraz to clear
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