Angcheek Hypersonic November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Have not tried yet. Still have 1.5 bottles of 19 Crimes Shiraz to clear ðSaw that crimes too . But didnt try. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Saw that crimes too . But didnt try. ð now i keep drinking Jacob .. got good discount. Avoid the merlot19 Crimes used to be good. Now the current ones so so only so I'm out looking at alternatives again. Ya I don't drink Merlot. Jacob Creek abit "mainstream" .. I prefer to buy those relatively unknown brands on discount to try 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 3, 2018 Author Share November 3, 2018 This? I also bought to try try 1350F3D8-A58C-4561-A0D0-843D564C64B1.jpeg C3B4D38F-1062-4A3A-A7FB-997D3007B1AD.jpeg If you join Just Wine Club membership still get further 8% off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 3, 2018 Author Share November 3, 2018 19 Crimes used to be good. Now the current ones so so only so I'm out looking at alternatives again. Ya I don't drink Merlot. Jacob Creek abit "mainstream" .. I prefer to buy those relatively unknown brands on discount to try 𤣠I thought wines of these range all shouldn't differ much in terms of taste and quality on every vintage. The winemakers very often will source grapes in a wider region and blend the wines to have the same taste profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 If you join Just Wine Club membership still get further 8% off. $30 for that membership ... if you buy over 400 , that will cover back (only) . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 3, 2018 Author Share November 3, 2018 $30 for that membership ... if you buy over 400 , that will cover back (only) .Two year is $35Sure cover one lah. Even just two bottles a week is 104 bottles a year. Average bottle is $20 so total is $2080. Annual saving is $166.40. I signed up 5 years ago. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian 2nd Gear November 4, 2018 Share November 4, 2018 Did a search on vivino, Found two similar wines One has word Syrah, the other is just Cote Du Rhone Secret..... Has 3.6 stars from 700 plus reviews. Seems like Grenache Syrah blends from old world or new world around this price range. If Grenache Syrah Mourvedre will be more pricey. 2015 drink now or cellar? Drink now for the Secret de Famille Cote du Rhone 2015. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian 2nd Gear November 4, 2018 Share November 4, 2018 Today I just found another place that sells wine for take away at amazing prices! The Chop House - I went to the one at i12 Katong, they have another at Vivocity. I bought an Italian Tignanello @ $118 + 7% GST, cheaper than Changi airport duty free @ $144! I also got a French Domaine Faiveley Mercurey 1er Cru for $48 + GST, and an easy drinking Spanish Pago del Cielo Celeste Crianza for $39 + GST. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 5, 2018 Author Share November 5, 2018 (edited) This week I thought of sharing Shiraz from Australia, it's one of the most popular varietal in Australia and most abundant comparing to all other varieties. It's one of my favourite varietal and having tried different brands from Australia, the most iconic brand that place Australia wine on the world map has to be Penfolds. I got to know this brand when I was posted for military training in Australia many years ago. I search youtube and let the Brand Chief Wine Maker do the talking. https://youtu.be/K4eLsw6ZpJ0 As a Just Wine Club member myself, I can't wait for the 2018 Vintage release dinner this coming Wednesday. I will have a taste of Penfolds St Henri 2015, the last wine of 4 other Penfolds wines for this dinner. Hopefully the vintage will taste like what the reviews say. A bit on this Australian Shiraz. St Henri is a time-honoured and alternative expression of Shiraz, and an intriguing counterpoint to Grange. It is unusual among high quality Australian red wines as it does not rely on any new oak. Proudly, a wine style that hasn’t succumbed to the dictates of fashion or commerce. St Henri is rich and plush when young, gaining soft, earthy, mocha-like characters as it ages. It is matured in old, 1,460 litre vats that allow the wine to develop, imparting minimal, if any oak character. Although a small proportion of Cabernet is sometimes used to improve structure, the focal point for St Henri remains Shiraz. Penfolds Grange is not one wine that I can afford to drink every release. At least St Henri is one I can afford once a year. Edited November 5, 2018 by Atonchia 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian 2nd Gear November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 This week I thought of sharing Shiraz from Australia, it's one of the most popular varietal in Australia and most abundant comparing to all other varieties. It's one of my favourite varietal and having tried different brands from Australia, the most iconic brand that place Australia wine on the world map has to be Penfolds. I got to know this brand when I was posted for military training in Australia many years ago. Do you find Australian Shiraz quite different from French Rhones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 5, 2018 Author Share November 5, 2018 Do you find Australian Shiraz quite different from French Rhones?Yes very much different. More intense and bolder characteristic. Find the warmer climate heavier body and stronger tannin. Higher alcohol. Though Northern Rhone is warm continental climate, but still cooler than Australia Barossa. Think the cooler effect is from the mistral. Northern Rhone overall is not so heavy on the palate. Lesser alcohol level as well. Same varietal but a very different expression of flavours. Greener, leaner and more restrained. Australian Shiraz is like Chris Hemsworth and Rhone Syrah is like Jean Reno. Both great actors but different expression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Wow half price ... hows was it ? ðð I usually take Aus , Cali or Italy . Seldom drink Chile Just tried the Chilean wine. 19 Crimes Shiraz is like good ristretto. Rich and flavourful. This Chilean Shiraz is like McDonald's normal coffee. Very plain and thin. Don't waste money buying it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Just tried the Chilean wine. 19 Crimes Shiraz is like good ristretto. Rich and flavourful. This Chilean Shiraz is like McDonald's normal coffee. Very plain and thin. Don't waste money buying it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Maybe your choice of wine. When I was in Beijing, i drank mostly Chilean Pinot Noir. It is as good as Australian or French. Of course. Not all Australian wines are good too. It's just this particular Chilean wine is not good imo. Not bashing Chile in general. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian 2nd Gear November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Yes very much different. More intense and bolder characteristic. Find the warmer climate heavier body and stronger tannin. Higher alcohol. Though Northern Rhone is warm continental climate, but still cooler than Australia Barossa. Think the cooler effect is from the mistral. Northern Rhone overall is not so heavy on the palate. Lesser alcohol level as well. Same varietal but a very different expression of flavours. Greener, leaner and more restrained. Australian Shiraz is like Chris Hemsworth and Rhone Syrah is like Jean Reno. Both great actors but different expression. I agree with your assessment! I like the softer, lower alcohol expression of the northern Rhones. Some, like Hermitage, can be so elegant that I was stunned when I was told it was a syrah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 5, 2018 Author Share November 5, 2018 Maybe your choice of wine. When I was in Beijing, i drank mostly Chilean Pinot Noir. It is as good as Australian or French. There are great Chilean wines too. Carmenère is one varietal that is like Shiraz to Australia and Malbec to Argentina. Pinot Noir characteristics should be closer to New Zealand Pinot compare to Burgundy as both Chile and NZ has strong maritime influence. Difference is coastal regions of Chile has higher altitude than NZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic November 5, 2018 Author Share November 5, 2018 Of course. Not all Australian wines are good too. It's just this particular Chilean wine is not good imo. Not bashing Chile in general. Agree, almost all wine countries have regions that produce very cheap wines. Sometimes in SG that $4-5 difference has wide range in quality especially from $15 and $20 range. Typically I will avoid wines that says Product of Country. Example, Product of France, Product of Spain, Product of Italy. Safest bet is seeing a geographic name. Cheap wines which cost $3 and $8 in a wine producing countries can be very different in quality. This $5 difference also roughly translate to the same SGD $ here. The cheapest wine selling here is really is base on one luck to get a drinkable but great value. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 6, 2018 Share November 6, 2018 There are great Chilean wines too. Carmenère is one varietal that is like Shiraz to Australia and Malbec to Argentina. Pinot Noir characteristics should be closer to New Zealand Pinot compare to Burgundy as both Chile and NZ has strong maritime influence. Difference is coastal regions of Chile has higher altitude than NZ. I drank a lot of Carmenere in Beijing. It’s dirt cheap like RMB40 or SGD8. Occasionally I drink Chilean Pinot Noir as it cost RMB100 or SGD20. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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