Playtime Twincharged November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 (edited) I think the problem arrives in the definition of ''NSF training death''.. say a guy who can't handle breakup stress with GF... walks in front of a land rover... and gets killed. Who pays? The state? I think its about due diligence here... i see it like drivers governed by LTA laws... rules say cannot do this cannot do that... you flout it as a driver.... its your responsibility,. Same for army.. you cause a death via a rash act... then bear the consequences. If the State, willfully disregarded a servicemen's life... then that another matter... But if the death is caused by a rash act of a servicemen or regular, how can the state be held accountable? Think of it this way. Even if some civil servant make a computer mistake and you find your CPF empty, you find who to compensate you? It's the same principle in just about every industry and organisation you can think of. Short of suicide, really not much case. The pendulum is swinging way too much against the nsf now. Because the state is "Never" negligent.. Edited November 5, 2018 by Playtime ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 (edited) https://www.hometeamns.sg/axa/ https://www.aviva.com.sg/en/mindef-and-mha/mindef-group-insurance/ https://www.cmpb.gov.sg/web/portal/cmpb/home/life-in-ns/saf/service-benefits-and-welfare/insurance-compensation-and-service-injury Edited November 5, 2018 by Watwheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piyopico Supercharged November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 I thought only son will not be posted to armour, artillery etc.... I mean the dangerous units. Just a myth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 I thought only son will not be posted to armour, artillery etc.... I mean the dangerous units. Just a myth? I am the only son also posted to amour. Anyway my bad..reports stated reversing not forward moving..apologise. But where is the M203 chap since vehicle is reversing? Maybe they changed sop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Ah Loong not the only son......Artillary General.... I thought only son will not be posted to armour, artillery etc.... I mean the dangerous units.Just a myth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 bloody kuniang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 I am the only son also posted to amour. Anyway my bad..reports stated reversing not forward moving..apologise. But where is the M203 chap since vehicle is reversing? Maybe they changed sop. no details now. We don't even know its during active training/exercise, or its during admin/laager state. VC ho say liao lor ....... bladdy LR so big cannot see. Unless is VC say driver advance, then driver kuku go reverse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 https://www.hometeamns.sg/axa/ https://www.aviva.com.sg/en/mindef-and-mha/mindef-group-insurance/ https://www.cmpb.gov.sg/web/portal/cmpb/home/life-in-ns/saf/service-benefits-and-welfare/insurance-compensation-and-service-injury And? What's that supposed to imply? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoseyboh Twincharged November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 such open area can also reversed into a rover ..........Yah. Super big area to maneuver.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 And? What's that supposed to imply? 150k insurance still not enough? Do you want 3 meals in hawker centre, food court or restaurant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 (edited) I think the problem arrives in the definition of ''NSF training death''.. say a guy who can't handle breakup stress with GF... walks in front of a land rover... and gets killed. Who pays? The state? I think its about due diligence here... i see it like drivers governed by LTA laws... rules say cannot do this cannot do that... you flout it as a driver.... its your responsibility,. Same for army.. you cause a death via a rash act... then bear the consequences. If the State, willfully disregarded a servicemen's life... then that another matter... But if the death is caused by a rash act of a servicemen or regular, how can the state be held accountable? What so difficult? If they can provide 150k of coverage, why can't they use the same principles to have it be 1.5 mil of coverage? Anyway, in my view, the state should pay unless it is proven to be suicide and other deliberate acts. Even if it is caused by negligence or incompetence of the serviceman. Actually ESPECIALLY if it is due to incompetence of the serviceman. If someone is a poor driver and mindef insists on putting a round peg in a square hole then why should the serviceman be responsible for any accidents when he has no choice on whether or not he has to drive? Edited November 5, 2018 by Kusje 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 150k insurance still not enough? Do you want 3 meals in hawker centre, food court or restaurant? It's enough if you think it is enough. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Parents send their son to ns. Ns return them a dead body. What's worse is that saf cannot be sued 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 It's enough if you think it is enough. not enough for 1 yr meal for you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 not enough for 1 yr meal for you I give Mindef 150k for them to excuse my son from NS can? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 Yah. Super big area to maneuver....Bio reversing.. rover tried to squeeze pass ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 I give Mindef 150k for them to excuse my son from NS can? unless you white horse category not white chicken hor Only their own breed can go without NS .... commoners like us life is nothing to them . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurman Supercharged November 5, 2018 Share November 5, 2018 I thought only son will not be posted to armour, artillery etc.... I mean the dangerous units. Just a myth? Myth. Haha. I also kena. Not armour. Armour engineer. Also tank leh. I tink many of my mates there also only son ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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