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Posted 17 December 2018 - 12:23 PM

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Since Carbon82 is on leave. I will start the topic. 

 

My Guess is both cat drop 1 to 2k. 

 

Real Time COE Bidding Results

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Category Current COE Price ($) Quota Bids Received
 
A CAR UP TO 1600CC & 97KW 1 1,890 0
 
B CAR ABOVE 1600CC OR 97KW 1 1,243 0
 
C GOODS VEHICLE & BUS 1 333 0
 
D MOTORCYCLE 1 1,114 0
 
E OPEN-ALL EXCEPT MOTORCYCLE 1 545 0
 
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 12:27 PM

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Since Carbon82 is on leave. I will start the topic.

My Guess is both cat drop 1 to 2k.

Real Time COE Bidding Results

Check Your COE Bidding Status

Category Current COE Price ($) Quota Bids Received

A CAR UP TO 1600CC & 97KW 1 1,890 0

B CAR ABOVE 1600CC OR 97KW 1 1,243 0

C GOODS VEHICLE & BUS 1 333 0

D MOTORCYCLE 1 1,114 0

E OPEN-ALL EXCEPT MOTORCYCLE 1 545 0

Source: Land Transport Authority

Wah good work. so many backup, much better redundancy than the COE bidding system itself .
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 01:02 PM

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Quota in dec is 3-4% more than nov. Will jan drop back to nov level?

The numbers dont tally with lta figures. Where do all these extra quota in dec come from?
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 01:27 PM

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I think Cat A will remain about the same level at 23K and Cat B will drop a bit to about 30K.


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 01:31 PM

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Quota in dec is 3-4% more than nov. Will jan drop back to nov level?

The numbers dont tally with lta figures. Where do all these extra quota in dec come from?

 

Unused quota from the last round.



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Posted 17 December 2018 - 01:54 PM

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Unused quota from the last round.

Sorry what is meant by unused quota? I thought every round the number of bids exceed the quota (except the $2 one).

And when exactly is this "last round", dec 1st bidding?

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:00 PM

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I am guessing it will be the same or increase by 1+ ~ 2K

 

Just guessing [:)]


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:02 PM

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Sorry what is meant by unused quota? I thought every round the number of bids exceed the quota (except the $2 one).

And when exactly is this "last round", dec 1st bidding? Or aug-oct

Not all quota is used up all the time.

Let's say
Quota is 1000
Number of bids 1001
999 bidders bid $10
2 bidders bid $9

Because quota is only 1000 they cannot give out two more at $9 cos that would mean 1001 & quota is only 1000

Result will be 999 successful bid at $10

Unused quota is 1 which will roll over to next bid meaning if the next round quota was slated to be 1000, it will now be 1000+1 or 1001.

Hope this helps
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:12 PM

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Two more bids before motorshow. Are people waiting to go motorshow for a better deal?
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:21 PM

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Not all quota is used up all the time.

Let's say
Quota is 1000
Number of bids 1001
999 bidders bid $10
2 bidders bid $9

Because quota is only 1000 they cannot give out two more at $9 cos that would mean 1001 & quota is only 1000

Result will be 999 successful bid at $10

Unused quota is 1 which will roll over to next bid meaning if the next round quota was slated to be 1000, it will now be 1000+1 or 1001.

Hope this helps

Oh i see.

Is the quota for each bidding round thus = lta average monthly quota + unused quota from prev round?

Where does one see the unused quota after every bidding? Or is it undisclosed until the next round opens?

Thanks.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:29 PM

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Two more bids before motorshow. Are people waiting to go motorshow for a better deal?

I for one am waiting for motorshow before commiting . Wanted to see some new models
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 02:40 PM

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Recent cars launched I can think of. . Kia Stonic. Merc A class, 2019 forester and Hyundai avante. Hoping to see mazda 3 2019 in the motorshow.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 04:02 PM

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Oh i see.

Is the quota for each bidding round thus = lta average monthly quota + unused quota from prev round?

Where does one see the unused quota after every bidding? Or is it undisclosed until the next round opens?

Thanks.

Yes to part one (partly). It's not average monthly quota plus unused quota from previous round. It's average monthly quota / 2 plus unused quota from previous round. Don't forget each month has two bidding cycles.

Second part it's available. When bidding closes it will show success full bids, unsuccessful bids and unused bids. These unused bids are the unused quota for rollover to neXT round.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 04:14 PM

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Yes to part one (partly). It's not average monthly quota plus unused quota from previous round. It's average monthly quota / 2 plus unused quota from previous round. Don't forget each month has two bidding cycles.

Second part it's available. When bidding closes it will show success full bids, unsuccessful bids and unused bids. These unused bids are the unused quota for rollover to neXT round.

Oh yes. I finally understand now. Except i cant seem to find the unused figure for 1st bidding now... thanks!

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The carry forward is to corresponding round in next month

https://www.lta.gov....lement-coe.html
The remaining 1 unallocated COE Quota will be carried forward to the next corresponding COE bidding exercise in the following month (i.e. 2nd COE Open Bidding Exercise in month (N+1).

Where can one find the unused/unallocated history? Eg for dec 2nd bidding, refer to nov 2nd bidding unused. For jan 1st bidding, refer to dec 1st bidding unused.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:33 PM

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This round Cat A likely remains around $23k.
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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:38 PM

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Oh yes. I finally understand now. Except i cant seem to find the unused figure for 1st bidding now... thanks!

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The carry forward is to corresponding round in next month

https://www.lta.gov....lement-coe.html
The remaining 1 unallocated COE Quota will be carried forward to the next corresponding COE bidding exercise in the following month (i.e. 2nd COE Open Bidding Exercise in month (N+1).

Where can one find the unused/unallocated history? Eg for dec 2nd bidding, refer to nov 2nd bidding unused. For jan 1st bidding, refer to dec 1st bidding unused.

 

https://www.lta.gov....t_2015_2018.pdf
 



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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:45 PM

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https://www.lta.gov....t_2015_2018.pdf

Saw that and thought it isnt there. On closer look it is there.

Unused = quota - successful bids

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 05:59 PM

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Saw that and thought it isnt there. On closer look it is there.

Unused = quota - successful bids

Thanks!

 

yup and it seems the odd logic is that, it is carried over the following month and the same bidding. meaning that unused quota from 1st bidding of Nov 2018 is carried over to 1st dec 2018 and not to 2nd bidding of nov 2018. unless i'm mistaken in reading how it is allocated.



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Posted 17 December 2018 - 09:18 PM

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Being very busy lately, so no time to start the thread as usual. Here are the data and chart.  [:)]

 

[sunny] [sunny] Good Luck to all vested! [sunny] [sunny]

Past Bidding Results (2001 - 2012)

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Past Bidding Results (2013 - 2018)

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Trend Chart (Dec 2016 - Dec 2018) *chart taken from www.sgcarmart.com
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PQP (2013 - 2018)
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The details of the December 2018 2nd open bidding exercise for Certificates of Entitlement (COEs) are as follows:

Tender opens: Monday, 17 December 2018, 12 noon
Tender closes: Wednesday, 19 December 2018, 4.00 pm
Tender results: Wednesday, 19 December 2018 (Available on the www.onemotoring.com.sg website)

The total quota available for this tender is 5,125 for the following vehicle categories:

NON-TRANSFERABLE CATEGORIES:
Category A: Cars (up to 1600cc & 97kW (130bhp)) => 1,890
Category B: Cars (above 1600cc or 97kW (130bhp)) => 1,243
Category D: Motorcycles => 1,114

TRANSFERABLE CATEGORIES:
Category C: Goods Vehicles and Buses => 333
Category E: Open Category => 545


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 10:09 PM

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