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Posted 11 June 2019 - 06:59 PM

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As a tankee myself, I’m proud to see another upgrade in our Armour formation. Once Armour Always Armour!

SINGAPORE - The Singapore Army has unveiled its latest armoured fighting vehicle (AFV), which boasts greater firepower, survivability and mobility.

Hailed as a centrepiece of the next-generation army, the vehicle - called the Hunter to represent the predatory spirit to sense, track, and pursue its prey - was commissioned at the Armour formation's 50th anniversary parade on Tuesday (June 11).

Locally designed and developed by the Defence Science and Technology Agency with the Singapore Army and ST Engineering, the Hunter will progressively replace the army's fleet of Ultra M113 armoured fighting vehicles, which have been in service since the 1970s.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen, who commissioned the Hunter at Sungei Gedong Camp, said that like the first-generation AMX-13 tank from 50 years ago, the new AFV will also make its debut appearance at this year's National Day Parade at the Padang.

He said: "Just as the Pioneer Generation, many of whom are here today, previous commanders and men of the armour formation, did half a century ago, and across the 50 years that the Armour has developed, I hope that Singaporeans will draw strength from the SAF's Armour Formation, united as one people, to defend our home together.

"This is a fitting tribute to commemorate our Bicentennial with the SAF giving strength to the nation, with Armour at its core."

Chief Armour Officer, Brigadier-General Yew Chee Leung, 42, said the Hunter is the army's first fully-digitalised vehicle, incorporating smart digital technologies catered to modern-day soldiers.

A digital steering system, called drive-by-wire, allows the vehicle commander to take over the driving function if needed. Its weapons can be controlled via a touchscreen interface.

The interior of the Hunter Armoured Fighting Vehicle

"So the way we drive and the way we fight have been fully digitalised. That's what we mean when we say it is a fully-digitalised platform," said BG Yew.

The Hunter is armed with a 30mm cannon, a 7.62mm machine gun, eight 76mm smoke grenade launchers, and two anti-tank guided missiles - the first time the missiles have been integrated into an armoured fighting vehicle.

Conceptualisation of the vehicle began in 2006. It is operated by a crew of three, namely the vehicle commander, gunner and the driver, in an integrated combat cockpit within the vehicle.

The Hunter is the army's first armoured fighting vehicle to have such a cockpit, which allows the commander and gunner to operate a common set of controls, and the closed hatch design minimises the crew's exposure to threats, especially in urban environments.

BG Yew said that the formation will train a core group of regulars and instructors this year, before starting training for full-time national servicemen and rolling out the vehicle for the 42nd Battalion, Singapore Armoured Regiment next year.

The Hunter Armoured Fighting Vehicle on the move at Sungei Gedong Camp

"Not only do we see an enhanced capability and lethality in the Hunter AFV, we see enhancements to our operations and maintenance. Especially so when the vehicle is able to actively track and monitor its own status," said Major Brandon Lim, 33, a weapon staff officer involved in the Hunter programme.

Algorithms can be used for predictive maintenance, increasing the efficiency of vehicle maintenance and management.

The Hunter crew can mobilise unmanned aerial and ground vehicles to gather reconnaissance and surveillance information remotely, with obvious advantages for stealth manoeuvres and its own protection.

The first locally developed armoured fighting vehicle, the Bionix, was rolled out in 1999. The event on Tuesday also marked 50 years since the Armour formation's first appearance at a National Day Parade in 1969, when 18 French-made AMX-13 tanks rolled down the Padang.

Quoting founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew's memoirs, Dr Ng said the roll-past of the AMX-13 tanks and V200 armoured vehicles had a "dramatic effect" on people in Malaysia, and the tanks' debut had given confidence to Singaporeans, as it marked a step up in the SAF's defence capabilities.

Other senior military officers at the parade included Chief of Defence Force Melvyn Ong and Chief of Army Goh Si Hou.

DSTA chief executive Tan Peng Yam, as well as the first batch of armour pioneers and early batches of national servicemen from the formation, were also present.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:10 PM

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Wonder if there be a 105 version. Think they demoed in US.

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:59 PM

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The question now is will TDM have a dramatic reaction when he witness in person the thunderous roar of armour vehicles on 9th August this year?

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:05 PM

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:05 PM

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The question now is will TDM have a dramatic reaction when he witness in person the thunderous roar of armour vehicles on 9th August this year?

 

 

lao ma can also display his version of tanks what, metal pcs on the outside only mah. Just like fighter planes without engine and submarine cannot submerge , still can show leh.... [:p]

 

for show only mah, mai so serious.... [:p]

 

anyway lao ma already said, whoever wants to invade Malaysia can just walk through, they wont even bother to fight. At most he will just smile smile at out hunter only lah.... ^_^  [laugh]  [laugh]


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:00 PM

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lao ma can also display his version of tanks what, metal pcs on the outside only mah. Just like fighter planes without engine and submarine cannot submerge , still can show leh.... [:p]

for show only mah, mai so serious.... [:p]

anyway lao ma already said, whoever wants to invade Malaysia can just walk through, they wont even bother to fight. At most he will just smile smile at out hunter only lah.... ^_^ [laugh] [laugh]

Dun play play hor. His smile is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction! 1 smile can flips our thousand THANKS. 🤣

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:35 AM

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never mention what type of armor and how thick??

 

or its classify??



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:58 AM

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Hope it's more outfield durable than the bronco which i heard breaks down quite easily (not sure if bionix has such issues).



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:46 PM

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Wonder when will it be in war thunder or CoD?



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:35 PM

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https://www.straitst...mation-turns-50

As a tankee myself, I’m proud to see another upgrade in our Armour formation. Once Armour Always Armour!

SINGAPORE - The Singapore Army has unveiled its latest armoured fighting vehicle (AFV), which boasts greater firepower, survivability and mobility.

Hailed as a centrepiece of the next-generation army, the vehicle - called the Hunter to represent the predatory spirit to sense, track, and pursue its prey - was commissioned at the Armour formation's 50th anniversary parade on Tuesday (June 11).

Locally designed and developed by the Defence Science and Technology Agency with the Singapore Army and ST Engineering, the Hunter will progressively replace the army's fleet of Ultra M113 armoured fighting vehicles, which have been in service since the 1970s.

Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen, who commissioned the Hunter at Sungei Gedong Camp, said that like the first-generation AMX-13 tank from 50 years ago, the new AFV will also make its debut appearance at this year's National Day Parade at the Padang.

He said: "Just as the Pioneer Generation, many of whom are here today, previous commanders and men of the armour formation, did half a century ago, and across the 50 years that the Armour has developed, I hope that Singaporeans will draw strength from the SAF's Armour Formation, united as one people, to defend our home together.

"This is a fitting tribute to commemorate our Bicentennial with the SAF giving strength to the nation, with Armour at its core."

Chief Armour Officer, Brigadier-General Yew Chee Leung, 42, said the Hunter is the army's first fully-digitalised vehicle, incorporating smart digital technologies catered to modern-day soldiers.

A digital steering system, called drive-by-wire, allows the vehicle commander to take over the driving function if needed. Its weapons can be controlled via a touchscreen interface.

The interior of the Hunter Armoured Fighting Vehicle

"So the way we drive and the way we fight have been fully digitalised. That's what we mean when we say it is a fully-digitalised platform," said BG Yew.

The Hunter is armed with a 30mm cannon, a 7.62mm machine gun, eight 76mm smoke grenade launchers, and two anti-tank guided missiles - the first time the missiles have been integrated into an armoured fighting vehicle.

Conceptualisation of the vehicle began in 2006. It is operated by a crew of three, namely the vehicle commander, gunner and the driver, in an integrated combat cockpit within the vehicle.

The Hunter is the army's first armoured fighting vehicle to have such a cockpit, which allows the commander and gunner to operate a common set of controls, and the closed hatch design minimises the crew's exposure to threats, especially in urban environments.

BG Yew said that the formation will train a core group of regulars and instructors this year, before starting training for full-time national servicemen and rolling out the vehicle for the 42nd Battalion, Singapore Armoured Regiment next year.

The Hunter Armoured Fighting Vehicle on the move at Sungei Gedong Camp

"Not only do we see an enhanced capability and lethality in the Hunter AFV, we see enhancements to our operations and maintenance. Especially so when the vehicle is able to actively track and monitor its own status," said Major Brandon Lim, 33, a weapon staff officer involved in the Hunter programme.

Algorithms can be used for predictive maintenance, increasing the efficiency of vehicle maintenance and management.

The Hunter crew can mobilise unmanned aerial and ground vehicles to gather reconnaissance and surveillance information remotely, with obvious advantages for stealth manoeuvres and its own protection.

The first locally developed armoured fighting vehicle, the Bionix, was rolled out in 1999. The event on Tuesday also marked 50 years since the Armour formation's first appearance at a National Day Parade in 1969, when 18 French-made AMX-13 tanks rolled down the Padang.

Quoting founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew's memoirs, Dr Ng said the roll-past of the AMX-13 tanks and V200 armoured vehicles had a "dramatic effect" on people in Malaysia, and the tanks' debut had given confidence to Singaporeans, as it marked a step up in the SAF's defence capabilities.

Other senior military officers at the parade included Chief of Defence Force Melvyn Ong and Chief of Army Goh Si Hou.

DSTA chief executive Tan Peng Yam, as well as the first batch of armour pioneers and early batches of national servicemen from the formation, were also present.


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I am APC (M113) driver during my army days.

 

Seriously worried for the reliability of the sensitive looking LCD screens and many electronics in a real rough outfield situation.

 

Even the very simple M113/Ultra/Bionix has fair share of issues with comms and other parts...

 

Hope this is not another armchair project, mainly to look good during parades and open-house


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:51 PM

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The 40mm looks good eh.. maybe future upgrade.. smaller gun space, but bigger round.

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never mention what type of armor and how thick??

 

or its classify??

 

They should be using the newer AMAP composite armor which is also used by the Leopard 2SG. The older Bionix 2 was on the older MEXAS armour. These is just the outer plates though, the interior hull of the bionix is harden steel, my guess the hunter is the same.

 

Both AMAP and MEXAS are classified but AMAP composite contains titanium.


The 40mm looks good eh.. maybe future upgrade.. smaller gun space, but bigger round.

 

The problem is, the bigger the gun, the smaller the payload.

 

25mm carry more round by cannot penetrate some modern armor. 25mm subjected to more trajectory distortion due to the weight so less accurate.

40mm good but lesser rounds carried.

 

30mm is a good balance


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I am APC (M113) driver during my army days.

 

Seriously worried for the reliability of the sensitive looking LCD screens and many electronics in a real rough outfield situation.

 

Even the very simple M113/Ultra/Bionix has fair share of issues with comms and other parts...

 

Hope this is not another armchair project, mainly to look good during parades and open-house

 

Digital battlefield is not new and already in used in Afghan on modified strykers.

Think much has evolved since the M113s. Even the armor is different and the steering and powerpack all different.

 

I trust ST to learn alot from the Bionix, Bronco and Terrex. Anyway the Terrex are already digital in many things like battlefield management and cameras for close hatch driving. Although I also have my doubts on the "drive by wire" design. hope they are digitally independant and have a mechnical backup in the event the systems are down.


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They should be using the newer AMAP composite armor which is also used by the Leopard 2SG. The older Bionix 2 was on the older MEXAS armour. These is just the outer plates though, the interior hull of the bionix is harden steel, my guess the hunter is the same.

Both AMAP and MEXAS are classified but AMAP composite contains titanium.


The problem is, the bigger the gun, the smaller the payload.

25mm carry more round by cannot penetrate some modern armor. 25mm subjected to more trajectory distortion due to the weight so less accurate.
40mm good but lesser rounds carried.

30mm is a good balance


Actually, the CT round designs are much smaller than conventional rounds. So ammo storage amount is not as different as it used tho be between a 30mm and 40mm.

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