Tommisan 4th Gear July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Just a Singapore KL HSR already NATO. This one in my life time not sure can smell it or not. And the biggest question, $$$$ come from where? Fully agree! Nothing has moved on the SG-KL HSR, it is all a dream to talk about connecting Singapore to Bangkok. Even if it happens, it would not be in the next 5-10 years! What a thread! ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 got ask permission from lao ma or not? why suka suka include msia? If Thailand propose let his family bao the MY part of the project from start to end, you think need to ask permission or not? Lao ma will issue invitation!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 I got a feeling that the Bangkok -Msia part will go through....it is always the part between Msia and Spore that has a problem. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Even BKK might be at least 8 hrs Just took a look at the distance. Very true. 8 hrs then flight might be better esp considering singapore's proposed HSR terminal is in Jurong. If City to City then maybe still better than flight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 (edited) Just took a look at the distance. Very true. 8 hrs then flight might be better esp considering singapore's proposed HSR terminal is in Jurong. If City to City then maybe still better than flight. Flight to BKK is only about 2hr+, promotion SQ can get at $200+.Why bother to spend such long time on train. Is not like China HSR timing is more reliable then always delay flight. Edited July 10, 2019 by Tohto 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 (edited) Flight to BKK is only about 2hr+, promotion SQ can get at $200+. Why bother to spend such long time on train. Is not like China HSR timing is more reliable then always delay flight. Depends where you live and where the stations are located. Airport need to go 2 hrs before the flight and travel all the way to Changi. Still nv consider that bkk airport might be out of the way and need further travel time to your destination. Should talk about average price and not promotion price. I would take a sleeper train to Bangkok or further. Edited July 10, 2019 by Kusje Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Thailand's objective is to let the Chinese have easier access to their country. The world doesnt just revolve around Sgp. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxyong 3rd Gear July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 From Google map...the estimated distance is about 1800 km.....it takes more than 6 hours for the fastest bullet train in the market now going at at full speed......so time saving is not possible.....besides the ticket cost will not come cheap....currently air fair especially on budget airline is already very low imo......the only reason I will consider it is flight phobia....and yes....I will take the overnight train if the ticket price is not too out of reached....I tried TGV in France and Frecce in Italy for City to city hops, it was really fast and efficient...very affordable too...the best part is it stops right in the middle of the City so I can just walk to my hotel nearby......I just wondering when will South East Asia catching up with Europe in this area 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 From Google map...the estimated distance is about 1800 km.....it takes more than 6 hours for the fastest bullet train in the market now going at at full speed......so time saving is not possible.....besides the ticket cost will not come cheap....currently air fair especially on budget airline is already very low imo......the only reason I will consider it is flight phobia....and yes....I will take the overnight train if the ticket price is not too out of reached....I tried TGV in France and Frecce in Italy for City to city hops, it was really fast and efficient...very affordable too...the best part is it stops right in the middle of the City so I can just walk to my hotel nearby......I just wondering when will South East Asia catching up with Europe in this area Because of the EU treaties between its member states traveling from country to country in Europe passengers do not need to disembark to have their passport stamped every time they have enter a country of different origin. But in this scenerio here passengers will no doubt have to disembark to have their passport stamped in order to proceed to the next country. How is it going to work when it takes time to queue at the customs counter to get clearance and passport stamped? Even with an automated system it still requires time to get thru the system. Then it isn't very time efficient than say travelling via airplane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSP415 Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Ok. I take aeroplane. U bros convinced me. It may never or take too long to be built for us. But i agree that its main objective is to allow the Chinese to have easier access to Thailand. More moolah from there than Msia n Sgp combined. But my choice is take aeroplane. Safe ride Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 SG to BKK, aeroplane any day ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 The annual trade value between SG and MY is even higher than MY with TH .. if it doesn't make economic sense for SG/MY, it will make even less sense for MY/TH. When comes to MY, it is never about economic value. It is about face value and relationship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Who's going to pay for it ? They want us to pay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 (edited) The annual trade value between SG and MY is even higher than MY with TH .. if it doesn't make economic sense for SG/MY, it will make even less sense for MY/TH. It won't just be MY/TH trade. Have to consider Malaysia and vietnam, china and others as well. Problem is, why need HSR? High speed is important for passengers only. Taking 1-2 extra days for goods via slow rail usually isn't going to be a problem. Edited July 10, 2019 by Kusje 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 Passing through Southern Thailand very dangerous... The separatists derail the train how? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged July 10, 2019 Share July 10, 2019 It won't just be MY/TH trade. Have to consider Malaysia and vietnam, china and others as well. Problem is, why need HSR? High speed is important for passengers only. Taking 1-2 extra days for goods via slow rail usually isn't going to be a problem. Not just about tourism, The idea of HSR is also to boost businesses by expanding the means to find nearby talent pool and good human resources which previously may be impossible due to long distances. Also, with fast travelling time for employees, businesses are also more encourage to setup offices in various cities along the route. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeniz Turbocharged July 14, 2019 Share July 14, 2019 Trains for transporting of goods from Bangkok to Singapore may be workable, but not passengers. Would still prefer to take a flight, given that time-saving is not that significant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxyong 3rd Gear July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 Trains for transporting of goods from Bangkok to Singapore may be workable, but not passengers. Would still prefer to take a flight, given that time-saving is not that significant. The train has to pass through 3 countries for customs and excise...you can imagine how this high speed train can become turtle speed under such circumstances...if I am the merchant...I rather use flight for high value and perishable items....and use shippings or lorries for low value or bulky cargos....in fact KTM has been there all the while....the viability is pretty obvious ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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