Lorrliew Neutral Newbie July 11, 2005 Share July 11, 2005 (edited) Not very sure leh? I'm no technical expert in this field? Maybe the website will help you: http://www.surbo.net/specs.html Honestly, I'm still struggling to understand the technical aspect. Edited July 11, 2005 by Lorrliew ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear July 12, 2005 Share July 12, 2005 i agree. but heng dun seem 2 believe me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sini85salo Neutral Newbie July 12, 2005 Share July 12, 2005 save ur money bro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched July 13, 2005 Share July 13, 2005 Guess you are right about the incorrect feel of things...used to use the cyclone or something like this, the car is alright at low speed but seems like choking during high speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srssrs Neutral Newbie July 17, 2005 Share July 17, 2005 The twin works well for me. Initially i hesitate as well. but no regrets now. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleblackalfa Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 sometimes the "improvement" can also just be in the owners mind lor we call this the Butt-Dyno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleblackalfa Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 Honestly, I'm still struggling to understand the technical aspect. That's because it's totally rubbish. The surbo fails if you use oversize wheels? meaning that it doesn't work under pressure? and to say that the car's topspeed at end of 1st gear can be raised by 30km/h difference? This thing modifys gear ratios? really? wah! if really so good, I put TWIN Surbo I win Porsche liao!!! This is a scam, it's rubbish, and definately cons you of your money. Go dyno your car. then you'll see it for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrun Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 The surbo fails if you use oversize wheels? meaning that it doesn't work under pressure? Wrong! If you buy oversized wheels, they don't expect you to appreciate surbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleblackalfa Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 for some reason people are willing to believe anything that'll make their car faster with relative minimal investment... wah... like dat I can manufacture something for $5, claim it saves fuel, increases bhp, and sell it for $20. sxxt... I'll make a killing man!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Author Share July 18, 2005 Well that might just be the boost the 100bhp Alfa 147 needs... to make it into the > 110bhp category lor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondhand Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 Actually The surbo IDEA is there... But when trying to put to PRACTICAL use, .... They somewat trying to force feed the engine with more air...... But with more air, doesn't the engine need more fuel to burn as well... How does tat save petrol??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_liang Clutched July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 The surbo and cyclone wll do the same thing, that is to create a vortex. Once the air flow starts to spin, they need to move faster to cover the same distance. A faster air velocity leads to pressure drop or more vaccum effect - suck more air. But between the surbo/cyclone to throttle body there must a certain distance for vortex to create e.g. at least 1 feet. Even if surbo heng succeed, most probably is that he found the trick that to seal up all the pressure leaks which cyclone may not have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondhand Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 In other words.... His surbo SHOULD work lah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 Bring this idea as a post to Eng-Tips sure kenna hammered left-right-centre until come out with your pride hurt and your reputation in tatters. Some people there might suggest you to graduate from engineering school first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 Some people's butt not calibrated. Cannot trust! To calibrate, you shaft something up their 4ss! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrun Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 (edited) Think of the problem this way. The engine is doing the "sucking". Compare using your mouth to suck through an open pipe and one with surbo/turbonator installed. What's the difference? Which one is easier to suck through? My logical guess is that there's no noticeable difference if the sucking force is light. However, if you keep on increasing the suction, the one with obstruction will reach air flow limit faster. The one with two obstructions will be worse. Surbo talks alot about "sealing the pressure leaks". Fact is, the factory setup does not have leaks. If there's a vacuum leak on your system, you need to plug it up to get better FC immediately. In my opinion, the cyclone effect will only last 1 feet before air flows in their ideal flow pattern, straight through the pipe. Edited July 18, 2005 by Zrun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleblackalfa Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 (edited) Well that might just be the boost the 100bhp Alfa 147 needs... to make it into the > 110bhp category lor whatever made you think the 147 was a 100bhp car? want to dyno mine? don't faint when you see the figures... even the pre-facelifted 1.6 had 120bhp. after 4 standard mods, it hit 148bhp at wheels... the new 147 1.6 on the other hand, is 105bhp. yep... heh... dat one I haven try yet. I tried the 2L one already... Edited July 18, 2005 by Littleblackalfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleblackalfa Neutral Newbie July 18, 2005 Share July 18, 2005 Shaft something? Surbo? whahaha... makes me fart faster... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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