Genie47 1st Gear July 9, 2005 Share July 9, 2005 I hope this can become sticky. Here is the procedure if anyone wants to attempt it. It is simple. Bleeding the Power Steering System [ol] If the power steering hydraulic system has been serviced, an accurate fluid level reading cannot be obtained until the air is bled from the system. Follow these steps to bleed the air from the system.[*]Turn the wheels all the way to the left and add the power steering fluid to the MIN mark on the fluid level indicator.Notice : When adding fluid or making a complete fluid change, always use DEXRON ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear October 23, 2005 Author Share October 23, 2005 This is any update on the power steering maintenance. This is a DIY PSF flush. In the Aveo manual, it is recommends that you inspect your power steering fluid (PSF) every time you change your oil. For added measure, I would say, change it once a year. Now according to the manual, you need a DexronIII equivalent ATF to be used as PSF. If you have Toyota's T-IV ATF, it is even better. Here are two very highly rated ATFs that you can use as PSF on your Aveo. Royal Purple's Max ATF (over 100lbs on the Timken test!) and Toyota's T-IV ATF. The selling point of Royal Purple's Max ATF is that it is a synthetic ATF that meets DexronIII specs. T-IV ATF meets GM 3309 specs. GM 3309 is compatible with LT71141. DexronIII meets LT71141 and therefore, T-IV can be used in applications where DexronIII is called for. You can consider it the most advance spec for ATFs after GM's DexronVI. Here in Singapore, RP Max ATF can be bought for SGD16-17/qt. T-IV ATF can be bought at around SGD22/4L. Ok how to change the ATF? There are 2 ways. The first involves using a turkey baster. Just open the PSF reservoir cap, suck out as much PSF using the turkey baster and deposit it into a waste container. There is a mesh screen below the reservoir and it will not allow you to completely suck out the PSF in the system. Top up with new PSF. Drive a week, repeat. How many times depends on fastidious you are. The second method is recommended if you like a total system PSF replacement. 1. Jack up the car on both the front points until the front wheels are off the ground. This is to reduce the stress on the steering components. 2. Get a 5/8", 2mm thick tube about 1m long. Cut a small slit on one end of the tube. 3. Gently pull out the coolant tube that runs from the reservoir and past the battery from the securing clips. There is no need to remove it. Just frees up some space so that you can remove the PSF return line from the reservoir. 4. Using a pair of pliers, release the clip that secures the PSF return line to the reservoir. Pull as far back as possible. 5. Have the 5/8" tube in hand. Make sure the other end drops down to the bottom of the engine bay into a collecting bottle or oil drain pan. BTW, the end with the slit should be the end you are holding to for the next step. 6. Now you want to minimize spills on your porch or garage, quickly pull out the return line and stuff it into the 5/8" tube as shown below 7. Now go to your driver's seat (there is no need to sit on it), turn the key switch to ON but DO NOT START THE ENGINE! This frees your steering wheel lock. Assuming you parked the car with the steering wheel centered, turn fully to both directions and then center it. Come out and inspect the PSF level. It should have dropped by half. Top up with PSF and repeat. Repeat until about 1-2L of PSF is used. If the PSF is a cheap and you like a full system flush, use about 3L of PSF. 8. Once finished, reconnect the return line back to the reservoir. Lower the car, and start the engine observing for leaks. Oh yes, I forgot to mention this. Toyota's T-IV ATF is actually used for any Toyota using Aisin Warner automatic transmissions. Aveos and Optras (Lacetti, Forenza) uses Aisin automatic transmissions, I would suggest using T-IV as your ATF in place of DexonIII if you can get it cheaply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miketan Neutral Newbie October 22, 2006 Share October 22, 2006 Genie47, your posting is very helpful. I like to know where can I get Royal Purple's Max ATF (over 100lbs on the Timken test!) and Toyota's T-IV ATF. Thanx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear October 23, 2006 Author Share October 23, 2006 T-IV can get from any spare part shop. I got mine from Alexandra Village. Usually 22-25 bucks for 4L can as pictured. RP Max ATF can get from Trex101. Just PM him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear August 16, 2007 Share August 16, 2007 hi Genie can i use Mazda ATF (ATF M-V) as my PSF? the manual states my PSF requirement as ATF M-III (eg. Dexron II) just that mazda ATF is a bit ex at about $50 for 4L... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear August 16, 2007 Author Share August 16, 2007 Not sure about Mazda but shouldn't be a problem. Why don't you just replace M-V with Schaeffer's 204SAT. Use as ATF and PSF since it is an all-makes ATF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear August 17, 2007 Share August 17, 2007 ok.. i'll check the specs for 204SAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukie102 Clutched November 19, 2009 Share November 19, 2009 Hello Genie, Is there a power steering pump for the Optra5? Same procedure on change of ATF as per the Aveo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear November 20, 2009 Author Share November 20, 2009 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timpain Neutral Newbie December 24, 2011 Share December 24, 2011 (edited) It is important that you should do is have a look at the substance stage in your energy guiding push each 30 days or two. This should be done while the car is heated and managing, on an even, stage exterior. If you do it while the car is freezing, or while it is on any kind of slope, without the car managing, you will not get an correct examining of the substance stage, which can cause to over-filling it and perhaps destructive a one to five million dollars program on your car. Autotrader Coupon Code Edited December 24, 2011 by Timpain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickkiee 1st Gear July 23, 2012 Share July 23, 2012 the maintenece must be taken care good... so that the steering will give life long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missie_h Neutral Newbie May 6, 2013 Share May 6, 2013 Hi, appreciate if anyone could advise. I am a new soon-to-be picanto owner, yesterday when i brought my parents down to the dealer whom ive deposited 1k with to see the potential car. They found out that the power steering fluid was almost down to nothing. Question is, i read in many articles that the fluid should last the life of the car or least a. Ery long time. The picanto is about 4yrs old. Could there be a potential leak which the dealer is not willing to tell me? Also if there is a leakage, how much does the power steering parts cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged May 6, 2013 Share May 6, 2013 Hi, appreciate if anyone could advise. I am a new soon-to-be picanto owner, yesterday when i brought my parents down to the dealer whom ive deposited 1k with to see the potential car. They found out that the power steering fluid was almost down to nothing. Question is, i read in many articles that the fluid should last the life of the car or least a. Ery long time. The picanto is about 4yrs old. Could there be a potential leak which the dealer is not willing to tell me? Also if there is a leakage, how much does the power steering parts cost? Maybe there is a leak,all my cars never need to top up power steering fluid,ask someone who knows about cars take a look for you,if the rack is leaking,it may cost up to a thousand in repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missie_h Neutral Newbie May 6, 2013 Share May 6, 2013 Hi er3682, thanks so much for the advise! I suspect it is a leak, have asked the dealer to check and repair but am worried that a few months down the road i will find out it isnt repaired properly and i have to pay for the changing of the parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear May 7, 2013 Share May 7, 2013 Hi, appreciate if anyone could advise. I am a new soon-to-be picanto owner, yesterday when i brought my parents down to the dealer whom ive deposited 1k with to see the potential car. They found out that the power steering fluid was almost down to nothing. Question is, i read in many articles that the fluid should last the life of the car or least a. Ery long time. The picanto is about 4yrs old. Could there be a potential leak which the dealer is not willing to tell me? Also if there is a leakage, how much does the power steering parts cost? Likely there is a leak. Cost to repair depends on whats leaking. Oh n i dun think picanto is a GMDAT car. Its fm kia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leijasper 1st Gear May 7, 2013 Share May 7, 2013 Hi, appreciate if anyone could advise. I am a new soon-to-be picanto owner, yesterday when i brought my parents down to the dealer whom ive deposited 1k with to see the potential car. They found out that the power steering fluid was almost down to nothing. Question is, i read in many articles that the fluid should last the life of the car or least a. Ery long time. The picanto is about 4yrs old. Could there be a potential leak which the dealer is not willing to tell me? Also if there is a leakage, how much does the power steering parts cost? Most likely have leakage somewhere for sure.. Dis thing doesn't evaporate bro.. Signs of previous owner didn't really takes gd care of it.. Instead of taking risk n since u already placed a deposit, ask ur dealer if u can choose another car instead.. Backing out will lose ur deposit for sure.. Taking up the deal means u shouldering the risk urself.. Either way sucks.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missie_h Neutral Newbie May 8, 2013 Share May 8, 2013 Thanks all for your advices!! Really appreciate it!!! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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