Stupid Civic Type-R driver (White CTR)

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[Jazza]

But I must say that lately, I am noticing less idiots using their hazard lights when driving in the rain, after all, EVERYBODY knows that in poor visibility you use your fog lamps,.....right?

Edited February 12, 2010 by Jazza

[HARDGAYHOOOO]

Nothing wrong with turning on hazard light especially when it is raining heavily????? So would U rather driver to on high beam ???? I feel that it is of no issue at all lor.

[Xtrocious]

IMHO, driving with the hazard light on is unwise...it just adds to the confusion and some drivers forget that they have the blinking lights on and they signal to make a

 

Instead, drivers should just switch on their headlights - I still see a lot of drivers not doing so when there is a heavy downpour...

 

My old man is one of them - I asked him why - his answer was that he can still see the road clearly

 

Then I explained to him that it is not so much his ability to see but having the headlights on (tail lights will be on as well) makes easier for others to see him...

 

 

[Renegade777]

Hazard lights should only be turned on when the car is stationary. As it is moving now, it becomes confusing if he later decides to use the right/left turn signal. Those following him will only see both blinkers on, and not be able to tell which direction he is going to. Whether it is a CTR or a Veyron, he shouldn't drive with hazard lights.

 

Dont "sisi" stick to rules leh. Sometimes got to bend abit. I have come across rain that is so heavy that I could not see the other car even at close range and with its lights on. I can only see cars that put on their hazard lights. To me more of a safety issue.

 

 

[Lammy84]

Would you not agree that hazard lights on a moving vehicle is more confusing than hazard lights on a stationary vehicle? Yes, they could give advance warning of obstacles on road if turned on appropriately. But to leave them on while driving may not be the safe way.

 

I'm sure you will also agree that those who turn without signalling, be it in rain or otherwise, are morons, but the TS is talking about driving with hazard lights.

 

 

once u see hazard light u will maintain a further distance from the car, it has done its objective that the owner has intended.

 

Confused or not is your own problem or lack of intelligence thereof.

 

When the rain is very very heavy, even if the car infront brakes, its very hard to judge if he has stopped or slowed down due to the lack of visual markers around us (those who ever been on the track will understand, when there is nothing but space around you, 180kmh doesnt feel very fast at all). When the hazard lights are on, it stimulates your visuals better allowing to more easily see that the car has slowed down and not only just when you are close enough where you have to brake hard. In inclement weather, trail braking is the only safe form of braking.

[Lammy84]

IMHO, driving with the hazard light on is unwise...it just adds to the confusion and some drivers forget that they have the blinking lights on and they signal to make a

 

Instead, drivers should just switch on their headlights - I still see a lot of drivers not doing so when there is a heavy downpour...

 

My old man is one of them - I asked him why - his answer was that he can still see the road clearly

 

Then I explained to him that it is not so much his ability to see but having the headlights on (tail lights will be on as well) makes easier for others to see him...

 

 

Unless you have a dedicated rear foglamp, the lights from your brake lights itself may not be able to project far enough or strongly enough for others behind you to safely judge the speed you are carrying.

In really really heavy rain (im talking about the kinds that causes flash floods even on the eways) there are instances where i cant even see the brake light clearly or tell if the car infront has sped up or slowed down. Only the hazard lights enabled us to see.

[Chevycavy]

Unless you have a dedicated rear foglamp, the lights from your brake lights itself may not be able to project far enough or strongly enough for others behind you to safely judge the speed you are carrying.

In really really heavy rain (im talking about the kinds that causes flash floods even on the eways) there are instances where i cant even see the brake light clearly or tell if the car infront has sped up or slowed down. Only the hazard lights enabled us to see.

 

But in very heavy rain i just try to follow the lights of the car in front coz can't see the lane markings. If the car in front switch on hazard lights but switch lane I think the whole "convoy" will inadvertently switch lane together. Very dangerous...

[Xtrocious]

Unless you have a dedicated rear foglamp, the lights from your brake lights itself may not be able to project far enough or strongly enough for others behind you to safely judge the speed you are carrying.

In really really heavy rain (im talking about the kinds that causes flash floods even on the eways) there are instances where i cant even see the brake light clearly or tell if the car infront has sped up or slowed down. Only the hazard lights enabled us to see.

 

Erm, yes, I do have dedicated rear fog lamps - this comes as standard with cars with fog lights, which I increasingly see on the road these days...

 

So it may be a case of drivers not knowing how to use their rear fog lights?

 

I would use my hazard light if I come to a complete stop etc...

 

Driving with hazard lights...hmmm, very misleading IMHO

[Sdf5725]

Erm, yes, I do have dedicated rear fog lamps - this comes as standard with cars with fog lights, which I increasingly see on the road these days...

 

So it may be a case of drivers not knowing how to use their rear fog lights?

 

I would use my hazard light if I come to a complete stop etc...

 

Driving with hazard lights...hmmm, very misleading IMHO

 

i second that. especially when the car is moving to the edge of the lane. you dont know if he is going to change lane or just drift away.

[Jazza]

Hazard lights are for indicating your vehicle is stationary. If you think you can't see the car in front of you because of the heavy rain, then it would be safer to pull off the road, somewhere safe, THEN switch on your hazard lights.

[Thunder7890]

Why are you so work-up, I found it is ok to turn on hazard lights rather than not at all or the brake lights are faulty.

[Kelvingoh45]

To the stupid fella driving along ECP this morning around 7:20am when it was raining quite heavy.

 

Please don't turn on your hazard lights JUST because it starts to rain heavily. You are NOT doing anyone a favour but instead, causing confusion to ALL. Nobody knows if your CTR spoil, if you want to turn left, want to turn right...

 

In-fact, you are the ONLY joker doing that.. maybe you are tying to attract attention to your CTR? Don't be so ho-lian.... drive CTR only..not Veyron.

 

Peace.

 

 

how you know he hao lian???

[Jazza]

Why are you so work-up, I found it is ok to turn on hazard lights rather than not at all or the brake lights are faulty.

 

Hiya buddy. I'm not worked up. Hazard lights are to indicate your vehicle is stationary. Imagine driving with your hazard lights on. Nobody knows if you are stationary or not. What if some poor guy behind you suddenly jam his brakes because he thinks you are stationary and causes a massive chain collision behind you. How would you feel? Also, if you want to change lanes and you switch on your indicator lights, guess what? Nobody will know you want to change lanes because of your hazard lights!

 

So, please, please, please do not use hazard lights when driving! Do not think of yourself only, other road users will be very confused by your hazard lights.

[Cerano]

Hiya buddy. I'm not worked up. Hazard lights are to indicate your vehicle is stationary. Imagine driving with your hazard lights on. Nobody knows if you are stationary or not. What if some poor guy behind you suddenly jam his brakes because he thinks you are stationary and causes a massive chain collision behind you. How would you feel? Also, if you want to change lanes and you switch on your indicator lights, guess what? Nobody will know you want to change lanes because of your hazard lights!

 

So, please, please, please do not use hazard lights when driving! Do not think of yourself only, other road users will be very confused by your hazard lights.

 

isnt it worse if he doesnt see the car in front and crashes into it AND cause a chain collision behind

[Showtime]

well guess we should ask ourselves if it is acceptable if everyone on the road turns on the hazard light when it is raining heavily. i feel it would be mahem... with the blinkers flashing at different frequencies, times...

 

so what i means is that if it is deemed as acceptable, it should justified that everyone doing it under the same circumstances is acceptable...

 

personally, i think that rear lights are sufficient to indicate the presence of a car ahead, and have no problems spotting one ahead of me and maintaining my distance. i might not be as frustrated as the TS with a single car using his hazard lights but i cant say this is acceptable for the above reasoning.

 

what do you guys think?

[Cerano]

well guess we should ask ourselves if it is acceptable if everyone on the road turns on the hazard light when it is raining heavily. i feel it would be mahem... with the blinkers flashing at different frequencies, times...

 

so what i means is that if it is deemed as acceptable, it should justified that everyone doing it under the same circumstances is acceptable...

 

personally, i think that rear lights are sufficient to indicate the presence of a car ahead, and have no problems spotting one ahead of me and maintaining my distance. i might not be as frustrated as the TS with a single car using his hazard lights but i cant say this is acceptable for the above reasoning.

 

what do you guys think?

 

i think for most cases the rear lights are sufficient. but we cannot be so rigid bro

 

ive once been caught in a rain so heavy you cant even see 5m ahead of you in malaysia.

 

imagine that.

 

naturally we all turned on our hazard lights so we could see. even foglights also no use

 

like i always say not everything is in black and white. sometimes must adapt with the circumstances

[Rb26dett]

isnt it worse if he doesnt see the car in front and crashes into it AND cause a chain collision behind

 

 

please leh , if its raining heaily , just turn on the headlights lor , the tail lights will automatically light up .

 

and as what you quoted , IF the condition is really so bad that you can't even see 5m ahead of you ,

then the only rational thing to do is to slow down , find your nearest exit and head for a rest stop .

Edited April 22, 2010 by Rb26dett