OpenNet Cabling & Trunking ...........

[Fivegear]

Hello, in the end did you get someone to come over your home? I just received Opennet letter so facing the same dilemma to have it installed. I want mine to be wired concealed in false ceilings. Not sure if the termination point should be in the study room OR living room?

[Alpha78]

Hello, in the end did you get someone to come over your home? I just received Opennet letter so facing the same dilemma to have it installed. I want mine to be wired concealed in false ceilings. Not sure if the termination point should be in the study room OR living room?

 

Before you get OpenNet to install the fibre line, get your contractor to run the concealed pipings. That would mean repainting and patching back the grooves cut, quite a messy job.

 

Locating the termination point in the study or living room is up to individual preference. For me I am locating mine in the study room, as all the IT equipment are there. As long as your home is wired up, via LAN cables or HomePlugs, it doesn't really matter where the termination point is located.

[Fivegear]

All Bros/Sis,

 

My living room is with concealed ceiling and the nearest room is a Study room. I will get my own contractor to work with OpenNet Contractor to jointly conceal the Fibre line on installation day.

What I am quite undecided is whether to have the termination point installed near the living room tv point Or to have it pull further into the Study room. Currently my study room has 2 computers that are connected wired to the router(Singnet ADSL). My concern is if the (fibre)termination point is left in living room, will that mean that I need to place my router in the living room and going forward my 2 PCs in the study have to connect wirelessly?

 

Sorry if I have misinterpretation of how it will work. Do correct me.

[Alpha78]

All Bros/Sis,

 

My living room is with concealed ceiling and the nearest room is a Study room. I will get my own contractor to work with OpenNet Contractor to jointly conceal the Fibre line on installation day.

What I am quite undecided is whether to have the termination point installed near the living room tv point Or to have it pull further into the Study room. Currently my study room has 2 computers that are connected wired to the router(Singnet ADSL). My concern is if the (fibre)termination point is left in living room, will that mean that I need to place my router in the living room and going forward my 2 PCs in the study have to connect wirelessly?

 

Sorry if I have misinterpretation of how it will work. Do correct me.

 

First, you should get your contractor to run the concealed pipings with the pull cord, as advised by OpenNet, and not conceal the wiring on the same day as OpenNet installation. The OpenNet contractor has no time to wait for your contractor to conceal the cable.

 

Second, your problem of linking the PCs to the living room can be easily solved with HomePlugs. They provide ethernet connection over power cables. Install a wired switch in your study room and link it to the living room router via HomePlugs.

[Bystander50]

All Bros/Sis,

 

My living room is with concealed ceiling and the nearest room is a Study room. I will get my own contractor to work with OpenNet Contractor to jointly conceal the Fibre line on installation day.

What I am quite undecided is whether to have the termination point installed near the living room tv point Or to have it pull further into the Study room. Currently my study room has 2 computers that are connected wired to the router(Singnet ADSL). My concern is if the (fibre)termination point is left in living room, will that mean that I need to place my router in the living room and going forward my 2 PCs in the study have to connect wirelessly?

 

Sorry if I have misinterpretation of how it will work. Do correct me.

 

Just bear in mind that OpenNet services are not just Internet services alone. In time to come, there'll be paid tv services, with the possibilities of merging the Starhub and mio boxes. So consider this carefully when placing your termination point.

 

Your fiber ISP will provide you with a wireless router when you sign up. The signals should be able to reach all the rooms in a standard hdb unit. If you put your point away from your tv, you may have to purchase those Homeplugs to hook up the new set top box, incurring additional costs. if you still prefered to run by wire for your pc, then the only way is ONT -> Homeplug -> router.

 

 

[Happily1986]

Just bear in mind that OpenNet services are not just Internet services alone. In time to come, there'll be paid tv services, with the possibilities of merging the Starhub and mio boxes. So consider this carefully when placing your termination point.

 

Your fiber ISP will provide you with a wireless router when you sign up. The signals should be able to reach all the rooms in a standard hdb unit. If you put your point away from your tv, you may have to purchase those Homeplugs to hook up the new set top box, incurring additional costs. if you still prefered to run by wire for your pc, then the only way is ONT -> Homeplug -> router.

 

wrong

[Mllcg]

Just bear in mind that OpenNet services are not just Internet services alone. In time to come, there'll be paid tv services, with the possibilities of merging the Starhub and mio boxes. So consider this carefully when placing your termination point.

 

Your fiber ISP will provide you with a wireless router when you sign up. The signals should be able to reach all the rooms in a standard hdb unit. If you put your point away from your tv, you may have to purchase those Homeplugs to hook up the new set top box, incurring additional costs. if you still prefered to run by wire for your pc, then the only way is ONT -> Homeplug -> router.

 

epic fail

 

its ONT----> Router-----> Homeplugs.

 

if u are just watching MioTV, home plugs are good enough.

Edited February 21, 2012 by Mllcg

[Bystander50]

epic fail

 

its ONT----> Router-----> Homeplugs.

 

if u are just watching MioTV, home plugs are good enough.

 

It works both ways, depending on where he wants to place his router.

Basically the link between the ONT is a RJ45 cable. If he wants to group all his stuffs together in another room, this is the way. He has 2 pcs in the room which he intends to use wired connections, if ont -> router -> homeplug, then he'll need a switch for the 2nd pc. If ont -> homeplug -> router, he can make use of the 4 port switch on the router itself.

 

 

[Happily1986]

It works both ways, depending on where he wants to place his router.

Basically the link between the ONT is a RJ45 cable. If he wants to group all his stuffs together in another room, this is the way. He has 2 pcs in the room which he intends to use wired connections, if ont -> router -> homeplug, then he'll need a switch for the 2nd pc. If ont -> homeplug -> router, he can make use of the 4 port switch on the router itself.

 

it is always Terminal Point > Optical Network Terminal > Residential Gateway OR NGBN certified N Router.

 

Nobody puts homeplugs between ONT and Router OR Residebtial Gateway.

[Mllcg]

It works both ways, depending on where he wants to place his router.

Basically the link between the ONT is a RJ45 cable. If he wants to group all his stuffs together in another room, this is the way. He has 2 pcs in the room which he intends to use wired connections, if ont -> router -> homeplug, then he'll need a switch for the 2nd pc. If ont -> homeplug -> router, he can make use of the 4 port switch on the router itself.

 

pls read up networking and bottlenecks.

[Maxus-MIFA9]

Everytime I shop at either AMK Hub or Toa Payoh Hub, got this Singtel booth SE came over and asked whether my house had OpenNet. They talk until so good about the fiber optic.

 

I tell them that I have done my optic but I done want to use it.....

 

 

[Mllcg]

Everytime I shop at either AMK Hub or Toa Payoh Hub, got this Singtel booth SE came over and asked whether my house had OpenNet. They talk until so good about the fiber optic.

 

I tell them that I have done my optic but I done want to use it.....

 

lol. should subscribe to the non mainstream ones.

 

www.fibernet.sg is good. im currently on it

[Maxus-MIFA9]

lol. should subscribe to the non mainstream ones.

 

www.fibernet.sg is good. im currently on it

the problem is that the free installation comes with a catch that on up to 15m from the outside point. further than that, had to pay....

[Mllcg]

the problem is that the free installation comes with a catch that on up to 15m from the outside point. further than that, had to pay....

 

i put the TP in my room.

 

paid extra 33 nia.

 

and your hall/room that long from the door meh?

 

$33 bucks is peanuts and gives u 20m

[Bystander50]

pls read up networking and bottlenecks.

 

Of course I know about the bottlenecks and limitations of the Homeplug and I never use them at all. My home is fully wired which allows me to transfer around my patching if required.

As I mentioned, I suggested that idea to Fivegear since he wants to have 2 pcs in his study and it is best to have the TP in the living room. As far as I know, if everything is placed in the living room, 1 pair of Homeplugs can only bring 1 patch point into his study. So other than going wireless or purchasing another switch, maybe you can share how you would have 2 wired connections into the room.

 

I seriously doubt the Homeplugs will cause a significant speed reduction if connected in my suggestion. Given a 100M fiber plan, how far/much can you maximise the speed? Unless you do BT and open up 30-50 torrents at a go, then there's a possibility, but i still doubt you can max out the fiber link to 100% 24x7. Unless to say one is doing a NAS/SANs replication remotely with large amount of data, there are a lot of bandwidth to spare. And your speed still depends on the site you are visiting. The only real bottleneck on the Homeplugs you'll see is when you are doing large file copy between PCs within your LAN. That is to say 1 PC connected directly to a switchport, and the other via a Homeplug.

 

The 2nd factor that can cause bottleneck is the router's WAN -> LAN interface. It all depends on the current infrastructure setup. You can have a wireless N accesspoint, but if your PC/Laptop is still on Wireless G which has a theoritical speed of 54Mbps, you still can't maximise your theoritical 100M fiber plan at a single point. Let's leave the network overheads out. We are not using commericial grade routers and switches from Cisco that has a high throughput. Basically on a 100M plan, there are a lot of unconsumed bandwidth that allows ISPs to oversell. Unless again you can show in your normal setup, your fiber link is able to utilise to 100% 24x7.

 

 

[Bystander50]

it is always Terminal Point > Optical Network Terminal > Residential Gateway OR NGBN certified N Router.

 

Nobody puts homeplugs between ONT and Router OR Residebtial Gateway.

 

The ONT in simple terms is just a media converter converting optics to copper and if i am not wrong, supports VLAN tagging between different ISPs.

The RJ45 link to a gateway or router if using Homeplug is just to bridge the equipments if placed far apart where you don't want an unsightly RJ45 cable running outside.

It is still a workable solution and my reasons for doing so are explained in the above message.

The thing is how you would want to walkaround to suit your current infrastructure or redo your whole infrastructure setup.

 

 

[Happily1986]

The ONT in simple terms is just a media converter converting optics to copper and if i am not wrong, supports VLAN tagging between different ISPs.

The RJ45 link to a gateway or router if using Homeplug is just to bridge the equipments if placed far apart where you don't want an unsightly RJ45 cable running outside.

It is still a workable solution and my reasons for doing so are explained in the above message.

The thing is how you would want to walkaround to suit your current infrastructure or redo your whole infrastructure setup.

 

please don't tell me that you honestly believe that homeplugs are as good as cat5e/cat6 cables.

 

there is a good reason why people connect the gateway directly to the modem or in this case the ONT.

 

download data thoughput utilities e.g. teracopy, measure your data throughput between your pair of homeplugs, paste the output here via a screenshot then we talk.

[Bystander50]

please don't tell me that you honestly believe that homeplugs are as good as cat5e/cat6 cables.

 

there is a good reason why people connect the gateway directly to the modem or in this case the ONT.

 

download data thoughput utilities e.g. teracopy, measure your data throughput between your pair of homeplugs, paste the output here via a screenshot then we talk.

 

I never trust or use Homeplugs as I already have structured cabling done with cat5e cables throughout my house. A post from me few months back already stated my reasons for not using them. Since it was mentioned, i just provided another possibility of connecting up.

 

For me, i am connected directly to the ont. Like I say, for those who can't and wants to have the ont in living room and gateway/router in another room, what other alternative solutions you can provide besides the use of a RJ45 cables? If you read the earlier posts, someone suggested Homeplugs i believe is for the ease and avoiding unsightly cables. For a casual surfer, I don't see the bottleneck on the homeplugs affecting him.