Pritam Singh on ministerial salary - "I oppose the motion"

[Lala81]

I am asking a detail report with regards to CPF cuts quantum/decision process that affects most people

what is the relevance to my personal bonus and appraisal ?

 

Why not?

It's a decision made by HR and your boss that affects your pay.

What is the policy behind your bonus and appraisal resulting in your pay?

Where's the transparency?

 

If i own 1000 shares in your company, AM I NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW?

 

 

 

 

[Lala81]

wah you suaning Robbie Kean huh??

 

haha u also know who i suaning

[Joseph22]

haha u also know who i suaning

we all pool fans mah.

[Without_a_car]

Why not?

It's a decision made by HR and your boss that affects your pay.

What is the policy behind your bonus and appraisal resulting in your pay?

Where's the transparency?

 

If i own 1000 shares in your company, AM I NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW?

 

you can demand for it at the share holder meeting if it amuses you

 

ministers on the other hand are drawing pay from tax payers, disclosure is part of the process

[Lala81]

The parliament, ministers + MP were elected by us to make decisions for us.

 

As such, the results of their decisions are tangible and objective.

The decision process can be consultative and mindful of the people's aspirations and needs but not decided by the people.

 

There can be some transparency but not everything should be debated.

 

If not, we'll end up like USA.

[Lala81]

you can demand for it at the share holder meeting if it amuses you

 

ministers on the other hand are drawing pay from tax payers, disclosure is part of the process

 

As such, my point is It's ok to know what the policy for the pay is, but not to know what WKS's bonus was in whichever year MSK escaped (as much as i would like to know )

 

Cheers.

Edited January 20, 2012 by Lala81

[Without_a_car]

As such, my point is It's ok to know what the policy for the pay is, but not to know what WKS's bonus was in whichever year MSK escaped (as much as i would like to know )

 

Cheers.

 

the contention is: did he or did he not received bonus despite failing his KPI

[Joseph22]

the contention is: did he or did he not received bonus despite failing his KPI

 

if your performance is poor, and your boss decide not to give you bonus, do you want him to broadcast it to the world?

As much as we think (or know) that he is incompetent as a Minister. We still have to give him the diginity of a human. he is after just incompetent and not a criminal.

Edited January 20, 2012 by Joseph22

[Without_a_car]

if your performance is poor, and your boss decide not to give you bonus, do you want him to broadcast it to the world?

As much as we think (or know) that he is incompetent as a Minister. We still have to give him the diginity of a human. he is after just incompetent and not a criminal.

 

I am not worried if he did not received a bonus. I am more worried if he did.

If he did receive a bonus in-spite of failing his KPI, the remuneration policy is obviously flawed.

[Joseph22]

I am not worried if he did not received a bonus. I am more worried if he did.

If he did receive a bonus in-spite of failing his KPI, the remuneration policy is obviously flawed.

actually we have to know their bonus are base on what component too.

 

if certain % of the whole package is base on team performance (which i believe it is.). then you can be sure he got.. maybe lesser than his peers nia. maybe all his individual bonus zero.

[Without_a_car]

actually we have to know their bonus are base on what component too.

 

if certain % of the whole package is base on team performance (which i believe it is.). then you can be sure he got.. maybe lesser than his peers nia. maybe all his individual bonus zero.

 

which is not possible since there is no disclosure

[Joseph22]

which is not possible since there is no disclosure

 

i think there is disclosure before in the MSM a few years back. remember read before in the Paper.

[Without_a_car]

i think there is disclosure before in the MSM a few years back. remember read before in the Paper.

 

that answers specifically wong did or did not receive a bonus for mas escape?

[Joseph22]

that answers specifically wong did or did not receive a bonus for mas escape?

no. i mean how they count bonus..

 

inregard to wong. please read me and lala reply earlier on what we think.

[Without_a_car]

no. i mean how they count bonus..

 

inregard to wong. please read me and lala reply earlier on what we think.

 

I know you and lala's sentiment on the matter.

 

But Lina Chiam, does have a point when she said shouldn't the transport minister's KPI be pegged directly to public transport.

[Joseph22]

I know you and lala's sentiment on the matter.

 

But Lina Chiam, does have a point when she said shouldn't the transport minister's KPI be pegged directly to public transport.

of course. we didnt disagree on that. ( i assume Lala have same view as me lah)

 

in fact, we agree that only Finance minister (impression is other minister got nothing to do with KPI) KPI to be tag with KPI. while the varies minister be tag to different KPI of their own domain (sound like forgotten realm. )

 

speaking of which, how should Minister of Foreign Affair KPI be fixed??

Edited January 20, 2012 by Joseph22

[Kiadaw]

you can't say they can pay themselves what they want. They get extra $20,000 allowance monthly from taxpayers to run grassroot activities to win themselves more votes ( in the name of community bonding) so how you expect their votes to fall in 2016? WP and other opposition have to raise their own money to campaign and reach out to ppl, ruling party use ppl's money to help them win ppl's votes

Do you mean 20,000 budget? 20,000 as allowance is just wrong on so many levels.

[Tigerwoods]

Have u all met LHL in person before.

 

Seriously he can look very haggard. i can see how shack he is when i had the opportunity to talk to him in 2010 for 1min.

 

I work 80+ hr/wk and i don't even tink i look so shack

Either he is inefficient our he just looked shack...