Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 For me, signaling makes changing/filtering lanes for challenging Personally, I do notice that some drivers do pull up when I turn on my indicator to filter, overtake etc.. however, this is how I'll react to such antics: Filtering a) Allow the driver to drive past while I move in behind swiftly and safely for filtering b) Upon signalling and if it is safe for me to switch lane swiftly and safely without causing the rear vehicle to hit his brakes, I will do so before he could 'reach' me without a safe distance Overtaking a) Allow the driver to go faster while I stay in the lane (this sometimes happen when I try to overtake a slow vehicle) b) Upon signalling and appreciate that it can be done safely, I will do so and pull away from the overtaken vehicle without causing the driver to apply brakes unnecessarily. c) If the driver pulls away because he realised that he was 'unconsciously' road hogging, I will revert back to the normal lane unless I'm making a turn ahead. More often than not, I find drivers tend to give way when I signal to filter and simultaneously wave (if necessary) when traffic is heavy. Therefore, do not be discouraged to turn on your signal just because of some unfriendly drivers because there are still many sensible drivers out there. Eventually, you will probably feel better as a driver who observes basic highway code where it really matters. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic April 14, 2012 Share April 14, 2012 If you do not signal when change lane and turning, and happen there is TP behind you. Will the TP stop you and summon you without signalling? Or anyone have caught by TP for failling to signal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 i hate people who dont signal! esp at those lanes that can either go straight or turn right, somehow will always encounter idiots who last min signal their intentions, or worst still is already stop at traffic light thinking they will go straight, then lights turn green and they turn right Yeah. What some will define as multi lane which is a lane for right/left turn or straight ahead. This can be frustrating at junctions where drivers do not signal when they have the intention to turn. As a result, they cause the rear vehicles (which intend to go straight) to: a) switch lane when the green light come on or b) get stuck and obstruct other turning vehicles when the red light come on while green arrow light up c) contribute to unnecessary jam at the junction Therefore, it is good to remind drivers to indicate their intention especially when they are in a 'multi lane' junction. If you happen to be a passenger, do help by reminding the driver if you noticed their indicator does not light up at such junctions (if they have intention to turn). Therefore, passengers can become useful co-drivers especially to 'forgetful' drivers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 i see nothing wrong with what you do. i signal even when i am coming out of a lot. This is even more rare even for some new drivers who throw the highway code rules out of the window as soon as they obtained their licence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 Signal? It is going to be extinct like our old friend the Dinosaur. Especially those driving luxury cars and taxis. In all fairness, such guilt is not restricted only to drivers of such vehicle but just as many as from B & B and light commercial vehicles with the exception of, (from my observation) heavy vehicle drivers who tend to apply their indicators more often than private or light vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic April 14, 2012 Share April 14, 2012 Yeah. What some will define as multi lane which is a lane for right/left turn or straight ahead. This can be frustrating at junctions where drivers do not signal when they have the intention to turn. As a result, they cause the rear vehicles (which intend to go straight) to: a) switch lane when the green light come on or b) get stuck and obstruct other turning vehicles when the red light come on while green arrow light up c) contribute to unnecessary jam at the junction Therefore, it is good to remind drivers to indicate their intention especially when they are in a 'multi lane' junction. If you happen to be a passenger, do help by reminding the driver if you noticed their indicator does not light up at such junctions (if they have intention to turn). Therefore, passengers can become useful co-drivers especially to 'forgetful' drivers. I always find in those suitation, more likely is the traffic lights design fault and the road design flaw. Sometimes even the car infront has indicate turning by signalling, but you might not be able to change lane due to heavy oncoming cars. And still end up got stuck and contribute jam at the junction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna_seng Clutched April 14, 2012 Share April 14, 2012 (edited) When at T-junction and I saw someone signal right on TURN-RIGHT ONLY lane, felt so stupid. If don't turn right, then go park on pavement right? Even pedestrian knows the cars on that lane have to turn right. In multi storey parking, think only 1 L-plate signals. From what i have observed these few years: in right turn only lane + u-turn allowed, those who dun signal are turning right; those who signal are u-turning. Reason being: in that lane, those turning right can zoom off as per normal; those who are making u-turn have to move much slower, so by indicating signal he is telling the driver behind not to assume he is zooming off right but is instead moving slowly to make u-turn, please dun chiong and rear end him. Edited April 14, 2012 by Tuna_seng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 All the time. Even when there are no other cars around. I believe the signal is useful to motorists as well as pedestrians who need to know the intention of drivers. YES! How often do drivers realise that it is indeed just as important to pedestrians as it is to other road users. Sometimes it does help compel pedestrians to cross at a quicker pace than at their own sweet time. Thanks for sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 +1.... I just blast my horn!! I rarely hit my horn but will often avoid multi lane when the front vehicle does not have any signal. If I'm compelled to follow behind such vehicle, I will usually keep sufficient distance to enable me to filter safely and swiftly after indicating my intention (if I should be stuck behind such turning vehicle). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 I always use the signal lights when needed, so that other road-users are alerted to what we wanted to do. Furthermore, if someone signal for change lane infront of me, I would "double-tap" my signal light to let them know "welcome in". I believe this is very helpful especially on rainy day or at night. On the NSH, whenever a faster vehicle/coach follow me overtake a slower vehicle, [after filter back to slow lane] I would also "double-tap" my left signal to let the following driver know "overtake me as well, I am keeping at limit". I really do not understand why some drivers just like to "save the signal lights". It's good if the driver can understand your signal because I'd not come across such signal, thus never knew this signal. Hence, I'd never done that except to slow down and keep a sufficient distance for the driver to move in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 PCC in driver seat is a serious distraction.... btw, i wont put signal lights when at the red light i am already waiting in the right-turn-only lane... its so obvious cars on this lane are going to turn right, what for "take-down-pants-just-to-ffark" ?? Perhaps such a situation may become the norm as there is validity in such reasoning except when one has the intention to U-Turn if it is not a right turn lane only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 I only signal when there are other vehicles or pedestrians around. They might rely on my signals to decide their actions/ reactions. This is much much better than not applying most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 (edited) Me too, signal only on highways, during heavy traffic, when there are motorist and pedestrians around. My wife said Li xiao ah, not a single soul on the road you signal for ghost arh? Someone mentioned signalling in MSCP You'll be surprised how useful it can be especially when MSCP can sometimes be dark during day time. Matter of fact, I will usually turn on my head light in MSCP with the hope of catching the attention of vehicles moving out of their parking lot. Edited April 14, 2012 by Neutralsg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 (edited) If you do not signal when change lane and turning, and happen there is TP behind you. Will the TP stop you and summon you without signalling? Or anyone have caught by TP for failling to signal? Read my post no. 1 It is not a fairy tale. Apparently today's TP may be more lenient than the past. Perhaps, drivers of the past are easier to teach through a single 'lesson' than today's drivers. Hence, despite all the reminders about drink driving and handphone driving, we still have drivers who are willing to take the risks. Therefore, it is high time TP does something about drivers who fail to signal where it matters and to give additional attention of such 'simple' offence (and not only seat belts) to cases where accidents happen. Edited April 14, 2012 by Neutralsg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 I always find in those suitation, more likely is the traffic lights design fault and the road design flaw. Sometimes even the car infront has indicate turning by signalling, but you might not be able to change lane due to heavy oncoming cars. And still end up got stuck and contribute jam at the junction. If the front vehicle indicate their intention early, it is easier for the rear vehicle to turn on their vehicle to indicate their intention to filter to the next lane whereby, the vehicle in the next lane can slow down to give way for such filtering. While some drivers may not give way, there are drivers who will give way. It beats getting stuck behind a driver who does not signal or signals only when the light turns green. Therefore, it's good to encourage proper signalling than resign to bad drivers habit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralsg 5th Gear April 14, 2012 Author Share April 14, 2012 From what i have observed these few years: in right turn only lane + u-turn allowed, those who dun signal are turning right; those who signal are u-turning. Reason being: in that lane, those turning right can zoom off as per normal; those who are making u-turn have to move much slower, so by indicating signal he is telling the driver behind not to assume he is zooming off right but is instead moving slowly to make u-turn, please dun chiong and rear end him. This is still an acceptable practice and perhaps may be more pragmatic as it distinguishes right turning and u-turning vehicles and also helps caution drivers coming out from the filter lane which can be affected by the U-Turning vehicle. The case in point is this incident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear April 14, 2012 Share April 14, 2012 Like you, I may be deemed a nut for such practice which has since become a 2nd nature when I drive. Driving can be quite frustrating when one has to apply defensive driving as a result of motorists signalling at the last minute or do not indicate their intention at all. To support motorists using their signal lights, I will, as often as possible, give way to motorists who signals as opposed to those who do not unless defensive driving becomes necessary. Cheers! and have a great weekend! Can share with us when defensive driving ever being unnecessary? I believe its the level of pragmatic diligence each driver dedicated to defensive driving instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear April 14, 2012 Share April 14, 2012 i hate people who dont signal! esp at those lanes that can either go straight or turn right, somehow will always encounter idiots who last min signal their intentions, or worst still is already stop at traffic light thinking they will go straight, then lights turn green and they turn right Wrong signals are getting popular: signal left when filtering/turning right, and vice versa. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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