Auto Tranny Gear Shift

[BoneStock]

folks,

 

My N16's auto tranny is having some intermittent problems recently. When shifting from gear 1 to gear 2, sometimes it enters into neutral instead. I had to release the throttle totally and it will be back to normal. It doesn't happen very often so my mech says it is hard for him to troubleshoot. Which I agree.

 

Just changed ATF 8,000km ago so no point changing it again. My mech says if there is a need to change gearbox it will cost 1k+. My car has only 2 years left on the COE so I am trying to spend as little as possible. Any alternatives that you can advise?

 

Thank you.

[Watwheels]

2 years left... Just live with it lor.

 

Maybe your gearbox is experiencing hydraulic issues or it may be your torque converter. I think likely is your torque converter, the faulty oil pump in the drum not filling the drum fully with oil or drain too prematurely causing your experience in the "neutral" feel. The gears might be engaged but becos the lack of oil in the torque converter it's as good as the clutch disengaged in a manual gear scenerio.

 

So you can ask your mech try looking into the torque converter oil pump. I think it's cheaper to replace as compared to the entire gearbox.

[Vidz]

2 years is not a long time but its not short either

 

will it degrade further and become safety issues?

can you pass inspections?

is your life and your family for important?

 

think hard...

Edited November 7, 2012 by Vidz

[BoneStock]

2 years left... Just live with it lor.

 

Maybe your gearbox is experiencing hydraulic issues or it may be your torque converter. I think likely is your torque converter, the faulty oil pump in the drum not filling the drum fully with oil or drain too prematurely causing your experience in the "neutral" feel. The gears might be engaged but becos the lack of oil in the torque converter it's as good as the clutch disengaged in a manual gear scenerio.

 

So you can ask your mech try looking into the torque converter oil pump. I think it's cheaper to replace as compared to the entire gearbox.

 

 

I see. Thanks for the advice

 

Previously there was this auto tranny specialist called Khangs Auto but if I am not mistaken, they have already closed down. Do you know if there is a Khang's equivalent?

[BoneStock]

2 years is not a long time but its not short either

 

will it degrade further and become safety issues?

can you pass inspections?

is your life and your family for important?

 

think hard...

 

 

no safety issue as the speed is very low at gear 1

[Watwheels]

I see. Thanks for the advice

 

Previously there was this auto tranny specialist called Khangs Auto but if I am not mistaken, they have already closed down. Do you know if there is a Khang's equivalent?

I have no idea. I did a search in this forum's merchant listings and got this... http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?autoco...=gearbox+repair

[BoneStock]

I have no idea. I did a search in this forum's merchant listings and got this... http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?autoco...=gearbox+repair

 

thank you bro. will check this out

[W124]

You could check out www.certechgels.com and see if certech gel can work for your transmission

 

An excerpt from the website "CerTechGel revitalizes the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. Automatic transmission problems produce a slipping sensation when the plates do not engage effectively. This is initially caused by low hydraulic pressure from the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. However, after continued slippage, the plates become glazed and lack adequate traction. If the plates have not glazed from excessive slipping, CerTechGel added to the transmission will revitalize the pump and increase pressure on the plates. Two syringes of CerTechGel is well worth the investment to try and save a transmission overhaul. CerTechGelhas saved many an owner from a very expensive automatic transmission bill."

 

Might be worth a try if your alternative is a transmission overhaul

[BoneStock]

You could check out www.certechgels.com and see if certech gel can work for your transmission

 

An excerpt from the website "CerTechGel revitalizes the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. Automatic transmission problems produce a slipping sensation when the plates do not engage effectively. This is initially caused by low hydraulic pressure from the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. However, after continued slippage, the plates become glazed and lack adequate traction. If the plates have not glazed from excessive slipping, CerTechGel added to the transmission will revitalize the pump and increase pressure on the plates. Two syringes of CerTechGel is well worth the investment to try and save a transmission overhaul. CerTechGelhas saved many an owner from a very expensive automatic transmission bill."

 

Might be worth a try if your alternative is a transmission overhaul

 

 

thanks for the info. I will check this out as well.

 

I've spoken to Autosaver and come out with more options.

 

- Do a check on the TCM to see if the settings are within spec. If not, it can be corrected.

 

- If TCM is ok, I am planning to do a gearbox flush to see if it helps. Since the tranny is old and although I replace the ATF regularly at 30k intervals, not all ATF was extracted during the change and some of this could be degraded and clog the system. So a full flush may help.

 

- if all else fails, most likely I will get the gearbox replaced...at the advice of Autosaver. 'cos according to them, replacing with a recon unit will be cheaper than to do a repair.

 

 

[Pisces69]

folks,

 

My N16's auto tranny is having some intermittent problems recently. When shifting from gear 1 to gear 2, sometimes it enters into neutral instead. I had to release the throttle totally and it will be back to normal. It doesn't happen very often so my mech says it is hard for him to troubleshoot. Which I agree.

 

Just changed ATF 8,000km ago so no point changing it again. My mech says if there is a need to change gearbox it will cost 1k+. My car has only 2 years left on the COE so I am trying to spend as little as possible. Any alternatives that you can advise?

 

Thank you.

 

 

Change new autobox fr only $1K? Thats too cheap.

 

I think something fishy.

 

Maybe u sud bring to places like KATC or similar who specialise in autobox repair n see what ty say.

[Pisces69]

You could check out www.certechgels.com and see if certech gel can work for your transmission

 

An excerpt from the website "CerTechGel revitalizes the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. Automatic transmission problems produce a slipping sensation when the plates do not engage effectively. This is initially caused by low hydraulic pressure from the automatic transmission hydraulic pump. However, after continued slippage, the plates become glazed and lack adequate traction. If the plates have not glazed from excessive slipping, CerTechGel added to the transmission will revitalize the pump and increase pressure on the plates. Two syringes of CerTechGel is well worth the investment to try and save a transmission overhaul. CerTechGelhas saved many an owner from a very expensive automatic transmission bill."

 

Might be worth a try if your alternative is a transmission overhaul

 

 

I dun really recommend those oils which claim to repair this n that.

 

Most dun work n can make it worse.

[Pisces69]

thanks for the info. I will check this out as well.

 

I've spoken to Autosaver and come out with more options.

 

- Do a check on the TCM to see if the settings are within spec. If not, it can be corrected.

 

- If TCM is ok, I am planning to do a gearbox flush to see if it helps. Since the tranny is old and although I replace the ATF regularly at 30k intervals, not all ATF was extracted during the change and some of this could be degraded and clog the system. So a full flush may help.

 

- if all else fails, most likely I will get the gearbox replaced...at the advice of Autosaver. 'cos according to them, replacing with a recon unit will be cheaper than to do a repair.

 

 

Get 2nd unit fm scrapyard. Cheaper n some even hv mechanic in-house to do e switch.

 

Get a warranty fm scrapyard autobox is working n ty wil switch if its faulty foc. Just in case.

[W124]

Get 2nd unit fm scrapyard. Cheaper n some even hv mechanic in-house to do e switch.

 

Get a warranty fm scrapyard autobox is working n ty wil switch if its faulty foc. Just in case.

Depends on the car model, availability of spare parts from the scrapyard may be an issue

Nowadays car models seldom last 10 years - this accounts for the fact why it's so difficult to find parts from scrapyard

So it's easier said than done unless you're driving an old COE car that used to be very popular so many had been scrapped

I tried to help a friend source for a Getz auto transmission and found the nearest one in Malacca!

 

It sounds very much like conventional wisdom to avoid the many additives on the market but those are not repair products, those are merely additives that would have been found in normal engine oils anyway.

 

Also many owners procrastinate until it's too late and then blame it on the product

Of course overhaul offers the surest way to repair faults, although dependent on the skill of the mechanic but my opinion is that this ceramic gel offers an opportunity to avoid the overhaul.

No gel can totally replace the skills of an experienced mechanic - this I fully agree :-)

[Pisces69]

Depends on the car model, availability of spare parts from the scrapyard may be an issue

Nowadays car models seldom last 10 years - this accounts for the fact why it's so difficult to find parts from scrapyard

So it's easier said than done unless you're driving an old COE car that used to be very popular so many had been scrapped

I tried to help a friend source for a Getz auto transmission and found the nearest one in Malacca!

 

It sounds very much like conventional wisdom to avoid the many additives on the market but those are not repair products, those are merely additives that would have been found in normal engine oils anyway.

 

Also many owners procrastinate until it's too late and then blame it on the product

Of course overhaul offers the surest way to repair faults, although dependent on the skill of the mechanic but my opinion is that this ceramic gel offers an opportunity to avoid the overhaul.

No gel can totally replace the skills of an experienced mechanic - this I fully agree :-)

 

 

2nd parts mostly fm japan cos ty usually scrap their cars after 3 years but german models like merc also alot cos europe also got big 2nd hand market to eastern europe.

 

Korean models hard to get 2nd hand parts here cos ty dont scrap cars early unlike japan.

 

Additives making all sorts of claims is big biz but i see most additives dun work n u can see ty disappear after a few years cos by that time ty hv started to hv done their damage n pple aware.

 

I prefer to use only tried n trusted major brands of oils etc as these hv good reputation.

 

If e ceramic gel is so good the reputable makers of autobox fluids wud hv already added it to its products being sold.

 

When i 1st started driving i tried many additives. Most did nothing good n some even caused a lot of damage to my bikes n cars till i reasised it was a waste of money.

 

 

[W124]

I do agree that there are a great many additives that make all sort of wondrous claims and they have damaged the reputation of the additive market as a whole

 

OK I have had my fair share of gizmos and performance enhancing magic

 

But I am not going to run down the ceramic gel - no more repetition of claims here

 

Car manufacturers build new cars so I doubt they would need to incorporate repair gel into their production chain. If it were snake oil, it wouldn't have lasted more than 10 years.

 

To be fair, I think you have got a very balanced message to car owners out there - if it's too good to be true, it probably is!! So stay away unless 1) you know what it professes to do, 2) you have seen positive feedback (but there almost always is!) and 3) you are desperate and have nothing to lose

 

Ha ha me? - I was all of the above...

[Pisces69]

I do agree that there are a great many additives that make all sort of wondrous claims and they have damaged the reputation of the additive market as a whole

 

OK I have had my fair share of gizmos and performance enhancing magic

 

But I am not going to run down the ceramic gel - no more repetition of claims here

 

Car manufacturers build new cars so I doubt they would need to incorporate repair gel into their production chain. If it were snake oil, it wouldn't have lasted more than 10 years.

 

To be fair, I think you have got a very balanced message to car owners out there - if it's too good to be true, it probably is!! So stay away unless 1) you know what it professes to do, 2) you have seen positive feedback (but there almost always is!) and 3) you are desperate and have nothing to lose

 

Ha ha me? - I was all of the above...

 

 

Btw r u driving a e200 auto?

 

I almost got a coe e200 auto b4. I think its e last if e over engineered merc. Built like a tank.

 

Do u hv any problems wh it? I wonder if its too late to get 1. Then i might get e 200 wh e twin round headilghts but that 1 is not as solid as e single recrangle headlamp model.

 

I hear e 8 valve is better than e 12 valve masterpiece in terms of robust engine/gearbox.

[BoneStock]

Change new autobox fr only $1K? Thats too cheap.

 

I think something fishy.

 

Maybe u sud bring to places like KATC or similar who specialise in autobox repair n see what ty say.

 

I checked with 3 shops, all said 1k+ inclusive of labour. One of the shops is an auto tranny specialist in Sin Ming and they have ready stock to swap out any time.

 

KATC is Khang's? isn't this the one that is related to some PI w/s that provided bogus warranty to new cars and they folded some time ago?

[BoneStock]

Get 2nd unit fm scrapyard. Cheaper n some even hv mechanic in-house to do e switch.

 

Get a warranty fm scrapyard autobox is working n ty wil switch if its faulty foc. Just in case.

 

Thanks bro. any scrapyard to recommend that has in house mech? My ride has 2 years left only so definitely a 2nd hand unit works better for me.