Mark X (V6) or Camry (PI)?

[Sturtles]

Good choice, of course, you must first confirm the mark X is specced with stability control to limit fish tailing.

[Zhizunbao]

You are asking the obvious. Mark X, of course.

 

- It shares the same V6 engine as the Lexus IS250 and the same platform as the Lexus GS300.

 

- V6 24v engine 2.5L 215PS 260Nm (vs Camry's IL4 16v 2.4L 167PS 224Nm)

 

- Dual VVTi, for both intake and exhaust valves (vs intake-only VVTi in the Camry)

 

- 6-speed Super ECT with Manual shift (vs 5-speed Super ECT)

 

- FC 12.6Km/l (vs 11.4Km/l, even Camry has smaller engnie)

 

- Multilink front suspensions and rear suspensions are double wishbones

(Camry on standard MacPhersons + Multilink. No double wishbones)

 

- But most important of all (for me): RWD (F/R) setup (Camry is FWD)

 

The Mark X will out-handle the Camry on difficult B-roads and hair-pin bends.

 

- Mark X is a looker, flushed twin exhausts and all

 

- Young & dynamic outlook with 18' rim (vs uncle car with 16' rim)

 

- More spacious for rear seats with wheel distance of 2850mm (vs 2775mm)

 

- Higher BHP/ton and quicker 0-100 than the Camry

 

 

Agree! Off course Mark X. Camry is not same class as Mark X. Addtional pt in red above. I can't understand why they r sold at same price in Japan., just Camry looks bigger?

[Phochem]

Hi I am considering getting a 2nd hand Mark X or Camry PI. Cant decide on one of them.

 

Can anyone advise me based on the following:

 

1) Comfort (sound insulation etc). CAMRY have better insulation.

2) Space. CAMRY is wider and spacious legrooms front and back.

3) Engine. CAMRY, why? cos can turbucharged, ease to maintain. Engine failure also cheaper to replace. The 4GR-FSE is running v.high compression... no game to play.

3) Fuel consumption. CAMRY, why? the bloody V6 sibei heavy. dont listen to the myth abt markx having better FC.

4) Warranty period and maintenance cost. CAMRY, why? can pump RON95, sparkplug 4pcs, Engine oil used is lesser than a V engine. sidetrack; markx club got many poison so maintenace is never low.

5) Subsequent resale value in open market. Almost the same.

 

Thanks for your advise.

Above are my humble opinion.

[Sfhuang]

Yes, traction and stability control (Toyota/Lexus calls it TRC/VSC) is a very important safety feature on RWD vehicles like IS250 and Mark X.

[Yaloryalor]

Bro, the rear leg room of Mark x can be smaller than the Civic 1.6 or Lacer 1.6 Maybe even smaller than Vios??

[Meecar]

i same a red mark x in a road show ...... very very sui leh

[So_nice]

very simple bro. just drop by any PI and take a look at their showroom camry and mark-x and the bm's camry. u will haf a better idea. the interior space of mark-x confirm bigger then lancer.

[Kyojin]

just wondering, do any of us really drive till "the limits of the car"? perhaps the threadstarter doesn't even do any track time. the FWD/RWD/AWD consideration isn't really very relevant to our roads as we do not get snow, sleet, black ice, etc.

 

i think it should come down to daily driving and how the car responds to such conditions.

 

on top of that, there are other considerations: looks, space, fuel economy, ride comfort. all of which are the things that really matter day-to-day.

 

it's rather foolish to buy a car "just because it has ..." (RWD, inline-6, V6)

 

i'm assuming this will be a family car. so it's best to take your family (presumably they're the ones gonna ride with you often) and get everyone into the car and see how they like it.

 

ok, so back to the main question: the choice should be Mark X. it's good looking, got a good chassis and engine combi. furthermore, it's exclusive to the PI market, so value would hold better. I would think people shopping for a used Camry will go for a BM version, so you may be stuck with the short end of the stick down the road.

[Bluecollar]

You are right on!!!!

 

My previous thread on harrier and mark-x was trying to address this issue between desire and actual need . I am actually more incline to a X, and was hoping to get some feedback in terms of FC to justify a X.

 

I know I am quite lame but if I am 20 years younger and single then no need to think liao...

 

Anyway I wish all here "GONG XI FAI CHOI"

Edited February 7, 2008 by Bluecollar

[Jolie888]

Hi I am considering getting a 2nd hand Mark X or Camry PI. Cant decide on one of them.

 

Can anyone advise me based on the following:

 

1) Comfort (sound insulation etc)

Mark X's insulation is near-Lexus-like, also helped by its creamy smooth, silent V6 engine.

Camry's insulation and NVH is still some way off from the Mark X's, IMHO.

 

2) Space

Mark X's wheelbase is 2850 mm - same as the Lexus GS300.

Camry's wheelbase is 2775 mm only.

That 75mm in favor of Mark X makes a significant difference in the rear passengers' leg room.

 

3) Engine

Mark X's Lexus-derived V6 24v engine has 215 BHP.

Creamy-smooth and performance-oriented.

Camry's 2.4L 4-cylinder 16v engine can only manage 167 BHP.

 

4) Fuel consumption

Mark X's Dual-VVTi 2.5L all-Al engine will register a better FC than the standard Toyota first-generation VVTi 2.4L.

 

5) Warranty period and maintenance cost

This should be nearly simillar, if serviced in a non-AD workshop.

 

6) Subsequent resale value in open market

Don't know. But my colleague's PI Camry was not deemed 'saleable' and had to be scapped eventually. This is true as long as the model (and parts) are not the same as the AD's model.

 

Thanks for your advise.

Edited February 7, 2008 by Jolie888

[Phochem]

1) Comfort (sound insulation etc)

Mark X's insulation is near-Lexus-like, also helped by its creamy smooth, silent V6 engine.

Camry's insulation and NVH is still some way off from the Mark X's, IMHO.

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You sure MarkX insulation is better than Camry...?

[Yaloryalor]

2) Space

Mark X's wheelbase is 2850 mm - same as the Lexus GS300.

Camry's wheelbase is 2775 mm only.

That 75mm in favor of Mark X makes a significant difference in the rear passengers' leg room.

 

Mark X is RWD althought the wheelbase is longer than camry but it actual fact the centre seat in the rear has very little leg room for passenger..

[EventH]

I that, even LS460 and some Bentley also considered "bad" rear leg room