E90 facelift

[Yaloryalor]

Then Fiat, Renault, Citron, Peugeot, Opel are Proton, Perodua and Chery to them?

[Miles]

perhaps KIA, Hyundai, Chevrolet, Proton, Geely,

[Azarael]

true true. personally the 4 cyclinder in line in the 320 is sufficent for most people who are looking to own their first blue and white propeller.

 

what is very attractive to me is the high OMV and the RWD of the 320i. if u wanted a nice entry level car that the missues can also drive, adequate room in the back for kids/parents, and u mainly like cars to go from A to B, with some snob value, then u can't go very wrong with a basic 320i bmw.

 

the E90 really looks nicer though with the facelift.

 

if u are a driving purist or a person who appreciates cars and engineering technology, AND u have tasted IL-6 or V6 smoothness before, then it will be really hard for u to stomach the 4 pot...cos bmw is all about IL-6 engines.

[Azarael]

really?

i think the C class sales is slowing down. Otherwise C&C wouldnt reduce the price of the C80 and C200. And their 1st 2 shipments were sold out, but 3rd shipment still have ex stock.

 

Anyway, 3 series is facing fierce competition from C class, IS250 and the new A4. Especially from IS250. PML needs the facelifted 3 series to arrive badly.

 

the C class is still overpriced.....wait a while longer....economic downturn, riots in other countries, price of petrol/diesel going up in malaysia.....the recession will be here and we wont even know it......

 

luxury goods and products will take a beating slowly but surely

 

conserve your ammunition guys..... wait for the price of the merc/3series to drop further

Edited June 8, 2008 by Azarael

[Check13]

agree.

 

i seriously hope recession will come soon but don't know why, our dear govt kept saying it wouldn't come. hidden agenda....

[inlinesix]

There will b slowdown but not recession. Juz look @ how many building projects is running now. Any downturn in manufacturing will be adequately offset by these projects.

 

End of OT.

[Miles]

not forgetting the gov's huge $5b IT project (cant remember the code name).... to upgrade all gov's system (especially email which is on lotus notes), which is contracted to EDS. this i believe is to help boost the economy and beat the potential recession.

[Net__appliance]

tested both the 320 and 323 ..

i must say the 320 is no more a poor cousin

[Azarael]

true the 320i will suffice for most of your needs, but seriously speaking, it's not going to be "the ultimate driving machine" as it calls itself.

 

for 127K which will pay for a 4 pot bmw 320, do u know AT THE SAME PRICE u can get a fire breathing Honda Accord 3.5L V6 with all the works that will utterly destroy most contis ? ]

 

Of course u will be the laughing stock of all when it comes to the paying of the road tax...... the guy driving the VG Golf 1.4 TSI will have the last laugh....

Edited June 28, 2008 by Azarael

[Check13]

lai lai lai, who buy car based on only bhp/$?

 

it's good we all have different 'values' for different things in a car. If not, we'll all only see 1 type of car on Spore roads liao.

[Mage]

OT a bit. Any kind soul can explain or direct to any article out there which can explain all the code names (eg, E90, E60, E46 etc) to the street-marketed & termed model like 320,323,645 etc?

 

...and wats the code for the X5 and X3 please?

Edited June 30, 2008 by Mage

[The_Bear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Series

[Yaloryalor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Series

[Wtee]

Maybe Toyota Camry is not a fair comparison. But check out the Mercedes from Cycle& Carriage.

 

C200 Kompressor (A) $154,888 1.8 litre supercharged inline 4

Power 184 bhp

Torque 250 Nm

Acceleration 8.8s (0-100kmh)

 

C230 (A) $176,888 2.5 litre normally-aspirated V6

Power 204 bhp

Torque 245 Nm

Acceleration 8.6s (0-100kmh)

 

Not sure if the C230 has the 7G-tronic gearbox, which does help a lot in acceleration times, or maybe SGcarmart got their stats wrong, ie:- look at the E230 acceleration stats below with same engine and heavier body.

 

Difference is $22,000, not cheap but half of the price difference between 320i and 325i.

 

Assuming it is a typo on SGcarmart's part and the C230's performance is actually 2 seconds faster than the C200k as per the comparison between E200K and E230, it would be a sweet deal.

 

 

For the E class, the higher spec version costs only a little more:

 

E200 K New Generation Avantgarde (A) $181,888 1.8 litre supercharged inline 4

Power 184 bhp

Torque 250 Nm

Acceleration 9.4s (0-100kmh)

 

E230 New Generation Avantgarde (A) $193,888 2.5 litre normally aspirated V6

Power 204 bhp

Torque 245 Nm

Acceleration 7.3s (0-100kmh)

7 g-tronic gearbox

 

Difference is a mere $12,000 for a whopping 2 second faster acceleration plus a superior engine and gearbox. If I were in the market for E class, I would definitely choose the E230 over the E200k.

 

So how does PML justify the huge price difference between 320i and 325i?

 

The 320i and 323i comparison is out because it is the 325i that has the 2 second 0-100kmh acceleration advantage over the 320i. 323i is just a detuned 325i.

 

 

FYI,

 

520i - in line 4, 156 bhp, 2 litre, 10.6 sec = $170,800.00

525i Highline - in line 6, 218 bhp, 2.5 litre, 7.9 sec = $197,800.00

 

523i - not bringing in anymore.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Wtee