Question on gravity?

[Nov1mom]

hi, of coz we have all asked questions. but dun you think if i need help all the time with respect to my job, perhaps i should consider it isn't quite the job for me.

 

pls read my posts carefully. i am not against her asking questions. i am just disturbed by the number of times it has happened.

 

and do ask yourself honestly, if you find out half the things that your child's tutor tells your son doesn't come from her own competency and that she regularly needs to turn to others to help solve your son's questions, you are perfectly comfortable with it?

Now thats my question which I hope you'll answer.

 

I noticed in your first post about "transfering of knowledge" being an "objective".

Well, that is the case if the perceived objective is just to pass exams and get on with life.

But I'm sure all parents will agree with me that when we want to educate children, we dont just want to upload information or answers onto them, but rather, we teach them to think, to have opinions, to question, to convince themselves that those are really the answers. And these are qualities we want a child to grow up with.

 

Hence my point. If we just want to "transfer knowledge", we don't need teachers/tutors. We just need assessment books with answers, internet, and anyone who has internet access to find out the answers from people on internet and tell them to your children.

Going along this line, we might as well teach our kids to post their questions on the net to get their own answers

 

Perhaps our ideas of education and the delivering of education differ.

I just want my child to be a thinking person, not someone who says "just tell me what I need to say/do, nevermind why". What about you?

[Nov1mom]

actually, i posed this question to the TS.

if she is the caring mom as suggested by Requiemdk, then perhaps she can get her kids to ask these questions to their teachers, who would be able to explain it to them in their lingo, make it simpler and clearer for them.

 

But, come to think of it. If she is a concerned mum, she would have already done what I said above without needing help thru the forum, unless the teacher is not up to par or unapproachable.

for normal working adults, i don't think most of us would have the time or energy to look at primary sch maths problems and then post them on the net for answers. furthermore, those questions posed are Singapore school problem sum questions, much too specific to be innocent posts like sharing of general academic questions.

 

That said, it led me to think of this other possibility: that she is a tutor.

 

Even if she is a tutor, I have no problems with her posting questions on the forums once in a while. It was the number of times that i had seen the TS start threads to ask questions on math that aroused my concern that should she be a tutor, then she should do some reflection.

 

whether TS is a tutor was my question. she could be a caring mom, but if she isn't, then my posts should help serve as an alert to parents and tutor-wannabes alike.

[Ultramega]

Ah, u have a question for me...ok, the answer is yes, I'm comfortable with it. Frankly. Cos i'm a goal driven person. There's an exam, pass it. That's all. if a lousy tutor can help my child pass, i'd say hey, good job!

 

And ur 2nd qn, yeah like u, i also want my child to be a thinking person, but i rather they develope their own ways of thinking, and not like u mentioned, be taught by teachers how to think.

 

I guess u're right, perhaps our ideas of education and the delivering of education differ.

 

Cheers.

[Nov1mom]

I think you're just saying things for the sake of saying it without thinking thru what exactly you're putting across.

 

1)How would a child be a thinking person, if all that he receives are answers, without guidance as how to carry out the actual thought processes? Sure, a smart child is able to develop his own ways of thinking by looking at the answers. But hey, I'm sure such a child would achieve greater things faster given proper guidance.

And what about an average child then?

 

2)Yes, we both value education. So being a goal-driven person, what is your goal in providing an education? To pass exams? If that is the case, you are not talking about education, you are only talking about providing schooling.

And if your goal is about schooling and passing exams, you shouldnt even be talking about developing a child's ways of thinking in the first place.

 

i.e. what I'm trying to say is, education is much broader than thinking about how to pass exams. But I do admit, the situation now has coerced us to operate at such a level, and that is why some less-than-adequate tutors are now trying to make a quick buck out of it.

 

I'm just asking parents or would-be-parents to be more discerning. But of course, ultimately it's up to them to decide how they want their child to turn out.

[Hobbiez]

So how was your food poison at Trader's hotel? Hope everything was fine.

 

The fact is in school, all they receive are answers and lacking in guidance.

 

Why not if a personal goal is about schooling and passing exam, why shouldnt Ultramega be taking about developing a child's ways of thinking?

 

the situation now has coerced us to operate at such a level, -> what have you done about this?

 

we don't see eye to eye. We are not asking you for any opinion.

[Hobbiez]

Thanks Requiemdk for the explanation. Good work.

[Hobbiez]

Imagine you dropped a ball with initial velocity u = 0. Let s1 denote the distance covered after time t1 and let s2 denote the distance covered after time t2

 

Then you have s1 = (1/2)(gt1^2) and s2 = (1/2)(gt2^2)

 

=> 2s1t2 = g(t1^2)t2 ---- (1) and 2s2t1 = g(t2^2)t1 --- (2)

 

take the difference between the two eqns above (i.e., (2)-(1)) and you have

 

2(s2t1-s1t2) = g(t1t2)(t2-t1)

=> g = 2(s2t1-s1t2)/(t1t2(t2-t1))

 

QED

 

This is really useful. Thanks a million.

[Hobbiez]

Hi Picnic,

 

I am really appreciative and the rest of guys on encouragement.

Study is neverending. You are a very good dad to copy these questions to let your children to practise.

Edited June 29, 2008 by Hobbiez

[Nov1mom]

I see you have looked at my posts just as I had previously looked at yours.

Up to now, you have not come out to clarify if you are a tutor or a caring mum.

From your reply, it appears that you are indeed a tutor.

 

"The fact is in school, all they receive are answers and lacking in guidance"

- you have not or did not have the intention to value-add to that situation. The situation you have pointed out does exist in some or perhaps even many cases. Therefore, that's when parents seek help in your guidance and to provide what the children cannot get in school. If you are providing the same standard as what u claim exist in schools, then what need is there of u?

 

"Why not if a personal goal is about schooling and passing exam, why shouldnt Ultramega be taking about developing a child's ways of thinking?"

- You are missing this completely. I think Ultramega has understood this point better than you do. For your understanding, we were talking about the differences between education and mere schooling. Go read the previous posts with greater thought.

 

"the situation now has coerced us to operate at such a level, -> what have you done about this?"

- For a start,I know my answers. Second, there are many methods to get them thinking and coax answers out of them. Most exams should be seen as assessments for learning, not assessments of learning, which if you are just looking at right / wrong and answers, is the latter. If we as adults cannot keep in view that exams are meant to assess our competencies, then how are the kids to really learn? They take their cues from us, the adults. The whole objective is not to have learned helplessness, this is especially for important for teachers, or in your context, tutors.

 

"we don't see eye to eye. We are not asking you for any opinion"

- Actually these 2 sentences do not make sense.

1) Who are the 'we'?

2) I'm not merely conversing with you, just expressing my views and concerns like all good forummers here do in forums. If we need to be asked to give an opinion, forums would be a very quiet place.

Therefore "eye-to-eye" is not apt here, but it shows that you are taking it personally. Perhaps I have struck a nerve or something.

[Hobbiez]

Belinda lin, I know you are a stay home mom and celebrated first anniversary. What do you have to be so stingy by skipping breakfast? 58 bucks per person.

 

You are stepping the line.

 

What proof you have that trader hotel caused your problem?

 

We are not interested in all your question, so get hell out of here.

[Nov1mom]

What line have I stepped?

I havent said or done anything personal.

You, on the contrary,

1)you have mentioned my name, which I am ok with since I've nothing to hide. I do not know if the same can be said of you

2)telling someone to "get the hell out of here" constitutes a breach of forum etiquette and probably even rules

 

All I'm doing is to alert forummers that their kind intentions could have been misused.

 

If you cannot even defend yourself, your intentions and your actions so far, do not resort to being aggressive, rude or personal.

[Hobbiez]

Belinda,

 

You must be the most "bah" MCF member we have ever since. You are no longer a teacher anymore.

 

But since you have a low EQ, you simply can't get the hint. You can be sue for posting everywhere about Trader hotel being responsible for your sickness.

 

Put your whatever intention elsewhee. THIS IS MY THREAD. Why you are not with your husband or baby, while still in the forum?

 

It is a good decision for you stay at home.

 

 

Get out. Create your own thread.

[Nov1mom]

This is another personal attack.

 

You still have not given me and whoever is reading, an answer. I think you owe this to the kind people who have helped you over and over again so far.

 

You have shown your integrity or lack thereof and your limitations in having meaningful postings.

 

There is no reason for me to reply to your posts any more. I hope the forummers here see who you really are and what you are doing.

[Hobbiez]

We don't need you to reply. We never ask for it in first place.

As ex-teacher, you have shown lackof ability to take cue. That's reason why we still have kids there who are smart, but no motivation to study.

 

Be smart in forum is ok, but don't be too smart.

[Espire]

I think you are getting it over your head.

stay cool man.....

or else you are just throwing yourself away.

 

Btw, I had met countless tutors doing it for the sake of money.

There is simply no professionalism.

I sincerely hope you are not one of them.

 

Cheers..

[Hobbiez]

I will definitely reply to all those who help me but not to someone out of nowhere with such attitude. She is one who must win type in every argument.

 

I'm just helping someone as they are not well to do to employ tutor since I have interest in it. Appreciate your encouragement

[Mivec9]

No wonder no one reply to her anymore

 

Keep posting! No worries!

[Gendut]

I'm just helping someone as they are not well to do to employ tutor since I have interest in it.

 

OMFG!!!!

 

So its true you're tutoring! Bro, stop doing more harm by teching subjects you're not familiar with.

 

You're not doing anyone a favour. Lets put it this way....you don't want butchers training our doctors OK?