Road Hogging and he doesn't know

[Freifeit]

imho, road hoggers have higher chance attract the attention of road- bulliers..

[Edwards]

imho, road hoggers have higher chance attract the attention of road- bulliers..

 

road bulliers don't deserve our attention, they will end up in prison anyway

Edited March 26, 2009 by Edwards

[Freifeit]

i'm giving you a chance to take back your words as i don't think you are a seasoned road user

 

in fact there is a regulation in the road traffic act to prosecute your so-called "road hoggers", go look it out on the net

 

but for the traffic authorities to enforce it, the "road hogger" must introduce a discontinuity in the flow to disrupt the asymptotic stability of the traffic stream, resulting in a negative wavefront velocity against the flow direction

 

to simplify, a driver cannot be called a "road hogger" if he does not cause a queue of vehicles to form up behind him and is not significantly disrupting the space mean speed of a particular lane

if the space mean speed of the lane is at 100km/h at this particular road condition, you cannot say every vehicle in front of you is a road hogger if you are approaching at 120km/h

 

If this theory is right, there will be NO AUTOBANN in this world!

 

Europeans are very considerate. But I

[Urns]

i'm giving you a chance to take back your words as i don't think you are a seasoned road user

 

in fact there is a regulation in the road traffic act to prosecute your so-called "road hoggers", go look it out on the net

 

but for the traffic authorities to enforce it, the "road hogger" must introduce a discontinuity in the flow to disrupt the asymptotic stability of the traffic stream, resulting in a negative wavefront velocity against the flow direction

 

to simplify, a driver cannot be called a "road hogger" if he does not cause a queue of vehicles to form up behind him and is not significantly disrupting the space mean speed of a particular lane

 

if the space mean speed of the lane is at 100km/h at this particular road condition, you cannot say every vehicle in front of you is a road hogger if you are approaching at 120km/h

 

Did you come up with this yourself?

[Edwards]

If this theory is right, there will be NO AUTOBANN in this world!

 

Europeans are very considerate. But I

Edited March 26, 2009 by Edwards

[Bugts]

i hate hoggers.. but i even hate tailgaters when traffic already so heavy & infront got car piling up... so want to high-beam me... cannot tahan!!

[Urns]

i'm giving you a chance to take back your words as i don't think you are a seasoned road user

 

in fact there is a regulation in the road traffic act to prosecute your so-called "road hoggers", go look it out on the net

 

but for the traffic authorities to enforce it, the "road hogger" must introduce a discontinuity in the flow to disrupt the asymptotic stability of the traffic stream, resulting in a negative wavefront velocity against the flow direction

 

to simplify, a driver cannot be called a "road hogger" if he does not cause a queue of vehicles to form up behind him and is not significantly disrupting the space mean speed of a particular lane

 

if the space mean speed of the lane is at 100km/h at this particular road condition, you cannot say every vehicle in front of you is a road hogger if you are approaching at 120km/h

 

I'm not taking back my words even though yes you're right I am not a seasoned road user.

All I know is that even if there are laws pertaining to punishing these road hoggers, many of them escape unpunished because it is very difficult to catch them. It's like I have been littering for many years and I still don't get caught but it doesn't mean that I am right. It's all about consideration. I don't throw litter now, or rather I do it only once in a while compared to when I was younger, simply because I think that it is very inconsiderate. Now I only hope road hoggers will realise that road hogging is indeed an inconsiderate act and so pls just get out of the way as much as you can ya. Let's all make this world a better place to live in as much as possible! Thanks in advance and cheers to all!!

[Urns]

i hate hoggers.. but i even hate tailgaters when traffic already so heavy & infront got car piling up... so want to high-beam me... cannot tahan!!

 

And only after we have exterminated this group of hoggers then we will have less tailgaters.. It cannot be the other way around I suppose.

[Waterh2o]

If this theory is right, there will be NO AUTOBANN in this world!

 

Europeans are very considerate. But I

[Edwards]

It is also sad to see so many tailgaters trying all sort of excuses (some may be genuine I don't know) to justify their speeding. sama sama...

 

even sadder that after millions of speedsters have already passed on from fatal crashes and now in the other world, yet they still fail to realize the danger of speeding, sad

 

[Urns]

even sadder that after millions of speedsters have already passed on from fatal crashes and now in the other world, yet they still fail to realize the danger of speeding, sad

 

Your time will come, indeed. Your time will come.

[Osiris]

Another Road hogger who thinks she's right

 

 

 

>> ASIAONE / MOTORING / DRIVERS / STORY

 

Fri, Nov 07, 2008

my paper

 

Don't let road bullies force you to speed

 

By Cheryl Lim

 

I HAVE come to a conclusion regarding Singaporean drivers: Few hold any regard for traffic laws.

 

This is what I have realised since I started driving a year ago and began coming into contact with other motorists.

 

You might think I'm being presumptuous, but statistics back this up.

 

According to the Singapore Police Force website (www.spf.gov.sg), there was a jump in the number of speeding- related accidents, from 1,656 cases in 2006 to 1,766 last year.

 

Speeding-related fatal accidents also rose from 66 in 2006 to 74 last year.

 

What this means is that more lives were needlessly lost because some motorists chose not to adhere to the speed limit.

 

I have always been very respectful of our fine country's numerous traffic laws. I keep to the speed limit, signal before changing lanes and give way when I am supposed to.

 

But despite that, I've been a victim of speeding.

 

For instance, I try to empathise when a motorist overtakes my car abruptly without signalling - an action open to the charge of careless driving, which could lead to the awarding of 6 demerit points and a possible jail term.

 

I tell myself that he might be in a big rush and is aware of my Jedi-like reflexes to get out of his way.

 

The last straw for me, though, is that it is simply not enough that I obey traffic laws and quietly put up with people breaking them. I'm now so harassed on the road that I have to break them myself.

 

Take, for example, a common experience I have on expressways. I have been tailgated, "high-beamed" and even honked at when I was travelling at the stipulated speed limit on the extreme right lane of expressways.

 

In short, I'm basically harassed and taunted for obeying the law.

 

Actually, the only reason why I even travel on the extreme right lane is that I am forced there by road hogs on the centre lane.

 

These include lorries packed to the gills and huge gravel-transporting trucks travelling at a mind-numbing 60kmh on a highway with a 90kmh limit. These vehicles are supposed to be travelling only on the left lane.

 

Readers should try going on the slip-road linking the BKE to the KJE towards Tuas at 50kmh, which is the speed limit on the slip-road.

 

Once, I was hounded by a six-wheeler towing a huge concrete slab, whose driver was tailgating me impatiently.

 

I managed to escape his wrath not by exceeding the speed limit, but by escaping to the left lane.

 

I can't think of any realistic solution to this, besides suggesting that the police be more rigorous in enforcing the speed limit.

 

High-beaming and tailgating are motorists' rude and direct way of telling me that by making the choice not to speed, I'm moving too slowly to share the highway with them.

 

But I protest: Motorists shouldn't be pressured and harassed by other law-breaking motorists into doing the same.

 

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I think we need to have a distinction between overtaking and passing

 

overtaking means you want to get in front of slower vehicles.

e.g. u at lane 2, speed 70kmh, u overtake at lane 1 and back to lane 2 to do 90kmh.

 

passing means, you are traveling at a higher speed than the other lane.

e.g. lane 3 speed 60kmh, u at lane 2 doing 80 is passing them not overtaking them

 

TP already said extreme right lane is used for overtaking

 

So those who travel at lane 1 at 90 because they want to travel at 90 and not 70/80 on lane 2 is not 'overtaking'.

 

 

[Solar]

Bro...one day, they are gonne be on the op table, and the Surgeon/clinical staff gonna be held back on the highway cos of some road-hogger....or one day, they gonna get a Myocardial Infarct, and the same, the cardiologist and radiographer gonna be tagging behind a road hogger...and in this case, time is the essence between life and death...nuff said.....

 

Let's not spend too much energy wasting on these riffraffs

 

bro, well said! want a good example?

my wife. her gynea had to rush down from her clinic to the hospital.

she was held up cos of traffic. end up, the nurse delivered my kid.

she reached only to stitch my wife up and settled the rest.

when i spoke to her later on, she said traffic had some people blocking her way..

thank god there was no complications and both were well. but if something *touchwood*, how?

 

that partly explains why i HATE hoggers to the guts. big ego? self righteous? wannabe civilian police?

i believe karma will return the favor one day.

Edited March 26, 2009 by Solar

[Waterh2o]

I think we need to have a distinction between overtaking and passing

 

overtaking means you want to get in front of slower vehicles.

e.g. u at lane 2, speed 70kmh, u overtake at lane 1 and back to lane 2 to do 90kmh.

 

passing means, you are traveling at a higher speed than the other lane.

e.g. lane 3 speed 60kmh, u at lane 2 doing 80 is passing them not overtaking them

 

TP already said extreme right lane is used for overtaking

 

So those who travel at lane 1 at 90 because they want to travel at 90 and not 70/80 on lane 2 is not 'overtaking'.

 

So how about someone on Lane 1 at 120 km/h is he passing, overtaking or just plain speeding?

[Blueegg]

Not for you nor I to judge. Want to be a vigilante? Put on a cape and nap those idiots robbing old ladies.

[Solar]

So can i speeding on lane 1 & when get caught just told the TP i don want to be road hogger?

Sometime the answer=no answer.

 

TP will tell you, if you don't want to hog, get out of the way.

speeding is another matter.

[Osiris]

he could be doing either.

 

the point is if someone behind me is catching up with the intent of overtaking me at 120 or more,

If I am not going to speed up and outpace him, i will give way and return to lane 1 at 120.

 

if every1 follow this basic courtesy, isn't the road a better place?

 

Once I needed to rush somewhere. on lane 1 i keep my right signal on.

80% give way. The 20% think they are the judge and keepers of the law refusing to budge at 90kmh.

[Osiris]

agree with you.

 

We speed with the understanding our action may incur some legal problem.

If 1 do not want to be caught speeding, keep at 90, give way to faster veh. end of the day, everyone happy.

 

Personally, TP need to catch more hoggers. everyday I see vans/lorries doing 70/80 on lane 2.

If lane 2 is strictly 90kmh, there is hardly a chance to use lane 1.