My brush with FT

[Apvman]

As long as we stupid sinkaporeans keep protecting them at our own expense, they wont jealous lah, dun worry kay. U just be a good citizen and make sure all your male decendants go NS. In return, some of the FT's female decendants will come here and provide service to our male decendants. Life is fair.

 

That ONE I NO OBJECTIONS LAH... More of their girls come... as long as pretty, young, body good good.. can ice cream n their "BAO YU" fresh n good...

 

Ooppsss... MCF becoming more n more sexual liao. Better dont talk so much. wait kanna red card how?

[Noobcar]

That ONE I NO OBJECTIONS LAH... More of their girls come... as long as pretty, young, body good good.. can ice cream n their "BAO YU" fresh n good...

 

Ooppsss... MCF becoming more n more sexual liao. Better dont talk so much. wait kanna red card how?

 

hahaha later the FT say u sexist and our Gov fine u then u know

[RadX]

U know what is the real story?

 

FT comes, take PR son also PR, buys HDB, makes money, son gets educated here.

Once son age eligible for NS, FT and son quits PR, sells HDB for big profit, takes out CPF and all savings, brings son and whole family back to own country.

Son gets his degree in his own country, and comes here as FT on EP.

After few years, becos our govt soooooo desperately needs FTs, gives the son PR.

And then the cycle continues........

 

 

right man bro.....soon i will follow you go JB retire nia

[Pchmj]

Now I have a feeling like becoming a Ore kue tau liao........

 

Different, this is called matchmaking, long term one, not 45 min. Sure will give you a big big ang pao.

[Angmokio]

Actually, which group bear the brunt of this so call FT policy?

 

Strangely, no report/ studies/ statistics/ survey was done in recent months on how locals are affected by FTs, directly or indirectly.

 

But we keep hearing retraning locals, relocate locals, rehiring locals, work past retirement for locals, help the unemployed locals, help the poor locals.... the irony is all this while we are still very busy approving employment pass, work permits & S-pass.

 

Some MCF may jump in here to say those locals, serve them right, so lazy, so demanding, so choosy...or are they???

Edited December 11, 2009 by Angmokio

[Ace]

Actually, which group bear the brunt of this so call FT policy?

 

Strangely, no report/ studies/ statistics/ survey was done in recent months on how locals are affected by FTs, directly or indirectly.

 

But we keep hearing retraning locals, relocate locals, rehiring locals, work past retirement for locals, help the unemployed locals, help the poor locals.... the irony is all this while we are still very busy approving employment pass, work permits & S-pass.

 

Some MCF may jump in here to say those locals, serve them right, so lazy, so demanding, so choosy...or are they???

 

retraining is a double edge sword. Assuming training will make us more skillful which implied better pay

But from the employer point, their interest is to keep the cost down and hence the easy way out is to hire FT.

Hence the poor guy who obediantly still end up with no job cause overskill, high pay,etc....Oh yes, job is created for the trainer though...............

[Ace]

i never thought i would post this

but here goes

dont we think it is a privillege to serve our country to do NS and reservist

many dont get a chance

 

however, i would gladly give my chance away

i did enjoy my 2 1/2 years in the army but that does not mean that i am in an economic advantagous position

i remember when i applied for a job, my potential boss ask how active i am at reservist

because i was in a rather high key position, my boss told me not suitable

when i finally landed a job, my boss got irritated because i would be going to reservist due to silent exercise, standby and the crap

which disrupted my work schedule

after awhile my understanding boss told me to work somewhere perhaps join the army

 

i finally realise that as singaporean we hold a great responsibility even if we were to loose out in live to protect and serve our beloved country

while we do get a few dollars for recognition but because of their brillant ideas the ministers are rewarded millions

this is truly fair

while in the army i suffered slipped disc in spine and uptoday i had already 2 surgeries

out of my pocket from cash and medisave

although these injuries were sustained during army days there was no way to claim

it cost alot to get medical help

there are many cost attached to serving the country during NS but i guess the few dollars given to me in recognition for my service to my country is a great honor that i laminated the piece of paper that indicated that the government has given me $X for my service

 

I am truly honored, I hope the FTs dont get jealous

 

Truly honoured, well I use to think like that until a few year back when I was retrenched, wife pregnant drawing low salary

So after about 2 months out of jobs, I went for an interview. As I was filling up the form, I was asked

are you due for reservist for the next 6 months. The result is obvious, interview is go through motion and I didn't get the job.

 

I tried for govt job, they didn't even bother to call me up for interview, cause my degree is 2nd class to the local one.....sigh........................

 

After this incident, I truly fell 2nd class in my own country and NS is really an hinderance..........guess this will stay till my deathbed.

 

 

 

 

[2bfree]

Reservist......Sighz. My reservist was 30-45 days a year for the past 10 years, not includin 3 years of shift patrol 14 days cycle, crowd control 3-5 days cycle etc. NNB.....I did at least 450 days for reservist plus my NS.....2 years. 10% of my life was given to the country. I really hope those FTs can have a taste of the joy I hav experienced frm the service I render to my beloved country......."SIBEH SONG"

[Scion]

will any of the ministars or NMPs read mycarforum and this thread?

hope they do so they will know 90% of the singaporeans (or rather MCF members) is in one way or another not really happy with the govt's FT policy

[sly]

[Angmokio]

will any of the ministars or NMPs read mycarforum and this thread?

hope they do so they will know 90% of the singaporeans (or rather MCF members) is in one way or another not really happy with the govt's FT policy

[sly]

 

MCF is only very minute % (0.001%???) of the whole of S'pore population, so it is negligible.

 

but i observed that almost all local forums talking about this issue.

 

anyway, they knew about these FT, job, HDB, public schooling, NS issues, but their priority now is to please the employer first (Read today ST headline news)

 

recent changrs on FT intake, charity for jobless, built more HDB etc these are all just trying to cool down heat.

 

Maybe next year budget, locals will get more goodies, benefits and entitlements....wishful thinking?

Edited December 11, 2009 by Angmokio

[Pchmj]

Minute but it's the hottest topic in the forum and already can hear so many people complain. I believe most are working adults and reflect what we see and face everyday, from all kinds of profession. When 90% of the people complain, that means something must be very wrong.

[Hermitage]

Reservist......Sighz. My reservist was 30-45 days a year for the past 10 years, not includin 3 years of shift patrol 14 days cycle, crowd control 3-5 days cycle etc. NNB.....I did at least 450 days for reservist plus my NS.....2 years. 10% of my life was given to the country. I really hope those FTs can have a taste of the joy I hav experienced frm the service I render to my beloved country......."SIBEH SONG"

 

Bro, I can really feel the bitterness and the pain, literally oozing out from your words! True lah, we locals get the best of the best training in the NS and so, such intense happiness should be shared with our precious FTs! Spread the LURV baby!!

 

 

[Topgun]

...recent changrs on FT intake, charity for jobless, built more HDB etc these are all just trying to cool down heat.

 

Maybe next year budget, locals will get more goodies, benefits and entitlements....wishful thinking?

 

 

GE after Chinese NY if we believe the rumour mill...

 

I think pappies have got something up their white short sleeves, particularly wth this 1 day cooling period

Edited December 11, 2009 by Topgun

[Angmokio]

Bro, I can really feel the bitterness and the pain, literally oozing out from your words! True lah, we locals get the best of the best training in the NS and so, such intense happiness should be shared with our precious FTs! Spread the LURV baby!!

 

I am past my reservist, but still feel the current NS & reservist pay system need a major revamp. (Hint: our ministar pay also revamped)

 

what i feel, for the 2 years NS, we should be paid equivalent to regulars or base on our academic qualifications, whichever is higher.

 

True fact is FT who graduated from local polys, from oveseas, keeps coming in & compete for jobs and University space.

 

At least when ORD, we have a lump sum to buy house, invest, further studies, married, have babies etc. This in a way, compensate what we sacrafics 2 years of our youth, or am i dreaming?.

 

 

As for reservists, we should be compensated well beyond the MUP we submit for every ICT.

 

 

 

[City100a]

i think we all are beginning to sound like an old record player

 

perhaps we should write a collective letter or note to our beloved MP about our aspirations

 

[City100a]

I am past my reservist, but still feel the current NS & reservist pay system need a major revamp. (Hint: our ministar pay also revamped)

 

what i feel, for the 2 years NS, we should be paid equivalent to regulars or base on our academic qualifications, whichever is higher.

 

True fact is FT who graduated from local polys, from oveseas, keeps coming in & compete for jobs and University space.

 

At least when ORD, we have a lump sum to buy house, invest, further studies, married, have babies etc. This in a way, compensate what we sacrafics 2 years of our youth, or am i dreaming?.

 

 

As for reservists, we should be compensated well beyond the MUP we submit for every ICT.

i think if we ask too much

the government will tell us we have crutch mentality

we are not serving our country with our hearts

we are not patriotic

we are too materialistic

we should be asking ourselves what we can do for our country and not what our country can do for us

we should be willing to sacrifice our lives for our country and our beloved politicians

we should not miss the forest for the trees - we should seek higher values in life

 

in the end there is still no satisfactory solution

 

i agree that we need to have a credible army but the world especially in Asia cannot afford to go to war qith any country because it would be economic sucide

yet we spend a large part of our GDP for military use

every time a soldier trains to shoot a missle - he is shoot a million bucks down the drain

why not spend part of the military expenditure for the poor so that we do not need to see uncle and auntie collecting items from rubbish bin

are we so heartless in this society

 

anyway i believe they have reasons which is likely to be beyond my reasoning

 

anybody care to guess

[Angmokio]

i think if we ask too much

the government will tell us we have crutch mentality

we are not serving our country with our hearts

we are not patriotic

we are too materialistic

we should be asking ourselves what we can do for our country and not what our country can do for us

we should be willing to sacrifice our lives for our country and our beloved politicians

we should not miss the forest for the trees - we should seek higher values in life

 

in the end there is still no satisfactory solution

 

i agree that we need to have a credible army but the world especially in Asia cannot afford to go to war qith any country because it would be economic sucide

yet we spend a large part of our GDP for military use

every time a soldier trains to shoot a missle - he is shoot a million bucks down the drain

why not spend part of the military expenditure for the poor so that we do not need to see uncle and auntie collecting items from rubbish bin

are we so heartless in this society

 

anyway i believe they have reasons which is likely to be beyond my reasoning

 

anybody care to guess

 

 

meaning, civil servants should not have high pay, because they are serving the people interest, the nation, the country? like volunteer workers?

 

 

[Pchmj]

The things you said had nothing to do with FT. They are here to make our situation worse, they create new problems for us, more reasons for us not to like NS. How to serve the nation with our heart when they are enjoying outside taking away jobs and school placement meant for my own people.