Robo 2nd Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 Depending on the speed with which I am approaching the lights. If I spot the redlight from far away, obviously the freewheeling method is of choice. But if suddenly realised the lights are gonna go red (especially when there's a redlight cam), then it's shift-down, brake + engine brake, shift down again, brake + engine brake and clutch-in to full stop!! Phew!! once i did that at the junction between tamp ave10 and pasir ris dr 12. lights turning red im too far away, got camera gotta jam brake. i did the exactly samething. phew.... thats was breathtakingly fun and very close. just nice on the line. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sw20 2nd Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 in the past i thought "free-wheeling" is the "in" thing cause i saw many taxi drivers did that. now i prefer to use double clutch, makes me look quite pro and at the same time reduce wear and tear to the clutch The way of proper double clutching seems to be extinct... because of syncros..... Last time do not have syncros in cars... so let the gears mesh nicely... double clutch was used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 yeap... i think modern gearboxes dun really need double declutch anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony 1st Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 When you are approaching a red light, do you guys step down on the clutch and let the car freewheel, using only the brakes?? Or do you use a combination of both engine brake and brakes?? Because i heard that many drivers use the freewheeling method because it saves petrols. But i also heard that it will cause your brake pad to wear off faster, so many don't advise on it.. the rite way is to down shift...too much free wheels will cause damage long run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sw20 2nd Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 the rite way is to down shift...too much free wheels will cause damage long run This is the 1st i heard.....Too much free wheeling will cause damage??? To wheel hubs, wheel bearing or brake pads? hehehehe If you drive too much.... YOUR CAR IS MOVING... will cause damage too in the long run..... Dude is not true that free wheeling will cause damage to you car... Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 (edited) Maybe i suggest a more extreme way if u really wanna save fuel. When u r ~500 m away from a red light, if u r travelling at high speed, 1. make sure no cars in front of u 2. clutch in put to neutral 3. turn off car engine, switch off and on again, so that engine is killed but odometer is running 4. change to gear 2 or 3, remain clutched in, right leg standby on the brakes 5. coast for as long as possible 6. if the red light turns green, slowly release clutch, u will restart the engine, (it can be done smoothly without bump feeling if u practise enough), continue driving 7.if red light is still red, stop, when green then crank engine. Proven that if u always kill engine at traffic lights that will last more than 10 sec, u can save at least 1-3km/L a month Edited December 15, 2009 by Windchoco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alarm Neutral Newbie December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 I brake first then before the engine stall then use the clutch and switch to neutral. Too troublesome to use engine brake, I only use it coming down from Genting so much better then going downhill in an Auto car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanGTR35 Neutral Newbie December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 Maybe i suggest a more extreme way if u really wanna save fuel. When u r ~500 m away from a red light, if u r travelling at high speed, 1. make sure no cars in front of u 2. clutch in put to neutral 3. turn off car engine, switch off and on again, so that engine is killed but odometer is running 4. change to gear 2 or 3, remain clutched in, right leg standby on the brakes 5. coast for as long as possible 6. if the red light turns green, slowly release clutch, u will restart the engine, (it can be done smoothly without bump feeling if u practise enough), continue driving 7.if red light is still red, stop, when green then crank engine. Proven that if u always kill engine at traffic lights that will last more than 10 sec, u can save at least 1-3km/L a month wow nice trick, sounds like using cheats and hacks for playing games if releasing clutch can restart engine, maybe i'll try it these few ays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 wow nice trick, sounds like using cheats and hacks for playing games if releasing clutch can restart engine, maybe i'll try it these few ays yes you can...kinda like jump starting the engine without battery power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 3. turn off car engine, switch off and on again, so that engine is killed but odometer is running teacher ....I don't understand this step... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanGTR35 Neutral Newbie December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 i guess is when you turn your car key just before the engine start, when your radio and brake lights an other electronics turn on. i dun think might work in keyless cars as in my impression you press the button and then it goes "vroom" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 When I see a red light, I take my foot off the accelerator and the car loses momentum, I gently tap the brakes to slow the car even more and let it roll to the stop line in gear. If the lights turn green then I drop to a lower gear match the revs and accelerate off. No need to double de-clutch as my car has synchromesh and I don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sw20 2nd Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 When I see a red light, I take my foot off the accelerator and the car loses momentum, I gently tap the brakes to slow the car even more and let it roll to the stop line in gear. If the lights turn green then I drop to a lower gear match the revs and accelerate off. No need to double de-clutch as my car has synchromesh and I don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceracer 1st Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 Wa, didnt knw that there were soooo many manual drivers. Gd Gd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 (edited) i guess is when you turn your car key just before the engine start, when your radio and brake lights an other electronics turn on. okay, step#3 means: Off engine, but keep the electrical power on. I am not sure if this can retain the power steering with engine off... quite scary without gear engaged + heavier steering. Edited December 15, 2009 by Wishcumstrue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 okay, step#3 means: Off engine, but keep the electrical power on. I am not sure if this can retain the power steering with engine off... quite scary without gear engaged + heavier steering. Yes, u need to be in this step then u r in a ready position to jump start car with ur clutch ma.. Dangers for some cars when engine off: 1. Some cars power steering wun work. But it is ok on straights, slight bend, just use ur heavy steering. 2. Brakes. Some cars, when engine killed, brakes will stop working also, something like no brake booster. pls check ur own car at low spd 1st b4 try tis kind of stunt. 3. If u nvr turn ur key to on position again after u kill ur engine, ur steering could LOCK !! BEWARE!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opel17 6th Gear December 15, 2009 Share December 15, 2009 okay, step#3 means: Off engine, but keep the electrical power on. I am not sure if this can retain the power steering with engine off... quite scary without gear engaged + heavier steering. car moving with engine off, the brakes require alot more driver pedal effort to stop the car. So may be unsafe to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive_carcar Clutched December 19, 2009 Share December 19, 2009 Too complicated already! I just stay in gear, apply brake gradually, then depress clutch to switch to neutral just about 10 - 20m (guestimate) away from the final stop. I really don't try and figure out when I depress clutch, because it's all by feel. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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