Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 Tabata was a big part of my muscle gains in the beginning. But I need longer workouts now (1/2 hour) to stimulate muscle growth as I don't gym. I can't handle 1/2 hour worth of Tabata, so I do supersets of a few bodyweight exercises with 1-2 min rests in between. 10 secs rest period is not enough to recover from supersets. yeah i read that if done correctly, with the right amount of weights, by the end of 4 mins of Tabata, u should be totally wasted. If can still go on that means weights not heavy enough. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triproton Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 I know of a few amateur long distance runners with chronic coughs too. I suspect improper training methods lead to bronchial tube damage. Personally, i believe the human body is not made to sustain runs of more than 5km. Sure, we can train until we can do it, the human body is very versatile...but we did not evolve as runners....we were ambush hunters. So our body is not made for long distance running...sure will sustain some kind of damage somewhere wan.... Skunk, Come one, man. 5km is a short distance; anybody in a reasonable state of health can run 5km. I would be very worried if someone can't do 5km. People who can't do it are usually because of their weight or muscoskeletal problems. Even in my fatter and unfitter days, I ate 5km for breakfast! Honestly,I think the threshold is higher. The human body is a very versatile machine. Granted that humans are not designed for running full marathons. In fact, I read somewhere that no land animal can match a human's endurance for long distance running in a marathon or longer. My view is that we can easily do 15-21 km without much physical damage. After all, we have enough glycogen stores in our body to last until 32km, beyond that an untrained body will "hit the wall". That's probably evolution's way of telling us that 32k is probably the max a human body should tolerate. Hey, even ambush hunters had to run long distances to get from one village to another. Have you seen how the African tribes people run? They are probably living their lives the closest to our ancestors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 (edited) i never say cannot, i only say there will be damage. Yes, the threshold could be higher or lower, 5km is my own opinion. By "damage", i'm talking about knee, heel, hip joint damage. We were made to walk and jog, not run. By the fact that we evolved to become bipedal, instead of going on all fours, shows that. If we were made to run, how come we cannot even outrun a dog? Ambush hunters had to walk long distances, maybe jog, and occasionally sprint. But they don't run long distances. I ever watched a youtube video of an African Saan tribesman outrun an antelope over long distance by tracking it and then killing it. If u want your body to look like them, then continue running lor, anyway in the video they were wearing what looked like Nike shoes LOL. They look really really thin and not muscular. I don't think ancient Man had Nike shoes, their little sandals made of animal skin would be barely sufficient to protect their joints at all from the impact of long distance running. I know u like running, you can have it as a hobby, of course, but to argue that long distance running is good, just because it's your hobby, is a stretch. Just like i love drinking but i've never argued that it's good for anyone. Edited May 12, 2010 by Skunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 just to chip in.. you can start by dropping rice and noodles. dropping sugar. can be 100% or 90%.. up to you, whatever is sustainable. drop bread, drop margerine, drop beans and peanuts.. go through the list of foods.. certain fruits.. even 100% is tough but no juices! then as you are dropping the above, add slowly the other stuff.. things you like to eat and can afford. butter, eggs, fish, nuts, veg, innards... coconut!.. Ya, NO SOFT DRINKS! No biscuits. The easier ones to stop are the noodles, pasta, prata, and morning bread, cerals or cornflakes. You'd have cut 90% of sugars if you do the above. The results will astound you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triproton Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 (edited) i never say cannot, i only say there will be damage. Yes, the threshold could be higher or lower, 5km is my own opinion. By "damage", i'm talking about knee, heel, hip joint damage. We were made to walk and jog, not run. By the fact that we evolved to become bipedal, instead of going on all fours, shows that. If we were made to run, how come we cannot even outrun a dog? Ambush hunters had to walk long distances, maybe jog, and occasionally sprint. But they don't run long distances. I ever watched a youtube video of an African Saan tribesman outrun an antelope over long distance by tracking it and then killing it. If u want your body to look like them, then continue running lor, anyway in the video they were wearing what looked like Nike shoes LOL. They look really really thin and not muscular. I don't think ancient Man had Nike shoes, their little sandals made of animal skin would be barely sufficient to protect their joints at all from the impact of long distance running. I know u like running, you can have it as a hobby, of course, but to argue that long distance running is good, just because it's your hobby, is a stretch. Just like i love drinking but i've never argued that it's good for anyone. If you read my post carefully, no where did I argue that long distance running is good. What I said was that the human body can tolerate more than 5km without physical damage. From my own experience, 15-21km would be ok for me, but not too often. I did say that the human body was not designed to run a full marathon given the 32k energy limitations inherent in the human bodies. I will be the first to admit that running a full marathon is damaging to the body, hence the general advice to do only 1 or 2 marathons in a year, max. Yes, evolution didn't make us fast sprinters; that's why we can't outrun dogs, horses, bears and something as huge as, elephants!. In fact, evolution made humans one of the weakest animals on earth in terms of physical strength - think also about how long a human takes to learn how to walk. But, strangely enough, what we have over other land animals is endurance - while we can't out-sprint a dog, we can out-last one at longer distances. In fact, an average Joe marathoner can outlast any four legged land animal in a long distance run. What does that tell you? Anyway, most of us non-Elites don't run long distances (>15km) - we jog. Running, to me, means anything exceeding 10km/h - below that is a jog. This is probably going off topic now... . Edited May 12, 2010 by Triproton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 ... I guess my point is until the medical industry, insurance industry, employers and the authorities in Singapore recognises that not all LDLs are "bad", getting a high LDL number will create problems for your health record. In my view, it will take a while for the medical view to change in Singapore; we are talking about years... I can think of 2 instances where superficial reading of our test results will give 'fat' problems: 1) Medical screening for buying insurance policies (life or health coverage), 2) Medical checkup for employment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 Somebody just sent me this email warning of DANGER OF SOYA to WOMEN! DANGERS OF SOYA FYI, information and safety.. Leaves nothing by way of food to be depended upon ..... soyaDANGERS OF SOYA -VERY IMPORTANT FOR LADIES soybeans The soya bean is the seed of the leguminous soya bean plant. Soya foods have been a staple part of the Chinese diet for over 4000 years but have only been widely consumed in Western countries since the 1960's. Soya foods include tofu, tempeh, textured vegetable protein (chunks, mince etc), miso, soya sauces, soya oil and margarine, and soya dairy alternatives. THIS ARTICLE IS THRU THE KIND COURTESY OF MS SUREKHA RAMCHANDANI, ONE WOMAN'S STORY ON SOYA... All Males - PLEASE pass this info to all your female friends... It may save their lives!Something to take note of. This is my true story, nothing altered. These are facts, as they relate to my experience, my opinions based on what I have read and felt. I am relating them to warn other young health-conscious women who are unwittingly harming themselves. In 1989, I graduated from high school in Texas and couldn't wait to hit the big college city. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat healthier. Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body with the best and healthiest foods I could find. Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk almost every day and used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soybeans, soybean sprouts, etc. All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer. It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all the time, but my menstrual cycle was off. At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual cycle. In addition to this I began to suffer from painful periods. I began to get puffy, it was as though I was losing my muscle tone. I began to suffer from depression and getting hot flushes. I mistook all this for PMS since my periods were irregular. By the time I was 25, my periods were so bad, I couldn't walk. The birth control pills never made them regular or less painful so I dec! ided to stop taking them. I went on like this for another two years until I realized my pain wasn't normal. At 27, my gynecologist found two cysts in my uterus. Both were the size of tennis balls. I went through surgery to have them removed and thank God they were benign. The gynecologist told me to go back on birth control pills. I didn't. In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery and again it was benign. In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums became inflamed. Thinking I had a tooth infection I went to the dentist who told me that teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling still did not go down. At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my neck. I told my mother I had thyroid trouble. She thought I was being silly. No one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw a specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinoma. After a series of tests he told me it was cancer. My fiance and I sat stunned. We were not prepared and I was so scared. We scheduled surgery right away. The specialist told us that it would only be after the operation that a pathologist would be able to tell us for sure if it was cancer. They found a tumor in my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another smaller tumor growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed. They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be safe and assured me that I could live a long life. After treatment I began to search for the cause of all these problems. I never once thought it could be all the soya I had consumed for nearly ten years. After all, soya is healthy. I came upon a web page that linked thyroid problems to soya intake and the conspiracy of soya marketed as a health food when in fact it is only a toxic by-product of the vegetable oil industry. This was insane, after all, the health and fitness magazines had ! said&nbs p; nothing about soya being harmful. I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985. She informed me that soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due to cysts and other uterine problems. A few months later another acquaintance who had consumed soya came down with thyroid cancer. A girl in England I met through the Internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone surgery and she was only 19. What was going on???? Breast cancer is linked to estrogen. What mimics estrogen in the female body, SOYA! But I never suspected soya because until now I never once found a single article that stated soya could be dangerous. Women who took soya prior to thyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not aware of what soya actually does, what it contains and how it reacts in the female body. I think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer often develop breast cancer later. My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warned her to stay off soya. I referred her to websites but until it is on the evening news on all four networks, women will suffer. Since the thyroidectomy, I do not touch soya, haven't for two years. Dear readers, please use my story in any way you can. There are so many young girls who are consuming soya because they think they are taking care of themselves, and women taking soya because they want to be healthy. It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of soya isn't more widely circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who feel this way and it is a terrible blow when you realize you are not as healthy as you thought and that the information that you depended on was wrong. check the attached link too for more information.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/aug/13/foodanddrink http://www.patrickholford.com/content.asp?id_Content=1415 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triproton Neutral Newbie May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 I can think of 2 instances where superficial reading of our test results will give 'fat' problems: 1) Medical screening for buying insurance policies (life or health coverage), 2) Medical checkup for employment My points exactly. We can argue until our face turns blue about the beneficial big and fluffly LDLs, but the reality is that the system will not care. The assumption and belief about LDL are very deeply ingrained in the whole system - medical, insurance and the government. I am not sure how to overcome this. You go for a medical check and get a high cholesterol reading because of a high LDL reading, then it becomes official. So, what do you do when you need to complete the health declaration forms when you buy insurance? Tell a white lie? Because of this, I am a little weary of going on a full saturated fat diet; although, I have upped my intake of meat, butter and eggs. What I have increased a lot to replace the lower carb intake are good fats such as fish, nuts and olive oil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepica 4th Gear May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 sometimes i fry 5 eggs in butter or coconut oil. After frying pour out the excess oil n drink it down mmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 Coconut oil and butter is so good for the body, gives so much energy, don't waste mah hehe. Everytime i have 1kg of chicken wings fried in butter for breakfast, my wife would freak out at the mountain of chicken bones and say "usually 1kg of chicken can feed a small family" LOL Tell people i'm "on diet" they can't believe it hohoho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngck 3rd Gear May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 i salute you.... thats quite an achievement!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 (edited) My points exactly. We can argue until our face turns blue about the beneficial big and fluffly LDLs, but the reality is that the system will not care. The assumption and belief about LDL are very deeply ingrained in the whole system - medical, insurance and the government. I am not sure how to overcome this. You go for a medical check and get a high cholesterol reading because of a high LDL reading, then it becomes official. So, what do you do when you need to complete the health declaration forms when you buy insurance? Tell a white lie? Because of this, I am a little weary of going on a full saturated fat diet; although, I have upped my intake of meat, butter and eggs. What I have increased a lot to replace the lower carb intake are good fats such as fish, nuts and olive oil. I totally get what you're saying bro. I got to where I am today over the course of more than a year. At first, I didn't even want to put saturated fat into my mouth. But my approach was constant experimentation and seeing how I felt physically and emotionally. That slowly led to my personal lifestyle today. For me, 70-80% fat, 20% protein and as little carbs as possible only in the form of veges and berries is the optimum. If I alter it to say 40% fat, 40% protein and 20% carbs, I feel very different. I fart all the time, feel sleepy in the afternoons, put on weight easily and feel lethargic during exercise. Of course, different people will work best with their own macronutrient ratios. By the way, even with my high fat diet, my LDL levels are still lower than when I was eating low fat. It's in the high normal range now. But I guess it is very specific to my lifestyle, diet and exercise. Edited May 12, 2010 by Chickenbackside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 You will faint when you see me drink coconut oil straight from the bottle and eat butter with a spoon, haha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 i salute you.... thats quite an achievement!!! weight/fat loss is one thing. Fat/weight loss can happen on any diet, not just this one. Everyday eat toilet paper also can lose weight. The difference is the health benefits. 1) I no longer feel hungry. The last time i was hungry was in February. Now i eat when i feel low in energy. My stomach no longer growl and my head no longer spins when low on food, unlike in the past. 2) my gums no longer bleed and when i scratch my teeth, there's zero plague (the white stuff). Cavities are found to be very very rare in predominantly meat eating populations. In fact, i once did a disgusting experiment. I didn't brush my teeth for 2 days. No bad breath at all. My wife didn't even notice after i kissed her. But after i told her, she freaked out LOL 3) Pang sai less and much more smoothly. My sai had never been so smooth before, and the last time i ate vegetables was 2 months ago LOL 4) I have so much energy and i feel so much vitality, my relatives commented that i "glow". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 2) my gums no longer bleed and when i scratch my teeth, there's zero plague (the white stuff). Cavities are found to be very very rare in predominantly meat eating populations. In fact, i once did a disgusting experiment. I didn't brush my teeth for 2 days. No bad breath at all. My wife didn't even notice after i kissed her. But after i told her, she freaked out LOL Yes! One thing I never mentioned was the improvement of oral health. I just went for my routine dental checkup on Monday. I was late by 3 months. My dentist said that it is remarkable how little plaque and tartar I have despite last cleaned my teeth 9 months ago and that all my teeth are in prefect condition. Never used to be like that. Always had lots of plaque and tartar to clean out, always had a decay to patch up, always trying to cover up bad breath with strong mint (which probably gave me more bad breath)...etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 I think the hardest part is Singaporeans' addiction to outside food. OMG at the foodcourt at my place, people eat out for breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper. The moment u keep eating out, is the moment your health goes down, whether now or in the future. It isn't even about weight management anymore. The hawkers are not concerned about your health, they just want to make their food taste good, so they will add whatever it takes to attract customers, often it's MSG, sugar or some kind of flavouring containing HFCS. I just don't understand why it's so hard to whip up a quick meal...cook everything in the morning or night, keep in tupperware and just heat it up when needed. And older folks saying "overnight food is bad" yeah right. And I don't understand why special occasions die die must go restaurant and eat the crap food, why can't have a BBQ or steamboat at home. Cheap healthy and nice. Alot of things i don't understand lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk Clutched May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_an...icle7122173.ece LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic May 12, 2010 Share May 12, 2010 bought mi frozened minced beef n made into patty . was tinkin of pan fryin all of them in 1 shot n keep them in fringe. In tat way, it bring much convenience. But is wondering whether to freeze it again or juz store them in meat dept as its cooked... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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