COE Civics

[Robinyip]

Hi all,

 

Will be getting 1992/93 COE civic, can anyone share what is a fair price to pay for one of these cars?

 

COE during that period should be around 18-19k region...

 

Most in sgcarmart is till August 2011?

 

Thanks alot.

[Scoobydoo]

The Aug 2011 one has the ultra-cheap COE.. a lot of people renewed at that time when PQP was lowest.

 

By right 1st 10 yrs renewed EG DOHC civic's market value is around low $4000/yr for EG9 and mid to high $4000s/yr for EG6. So Aug 2011 ones should be selling for $5-6k, BUT, cars tend to sell more expensively in the last 1-2 yrs of their life.

 

The best time to buy with the view of renewing COE would be those left 3-4yrs.

 

I'm not too sure about the ESI prices, but should be in the $3k/yr region.

 

 

 

 

[Robinyip]

The Aug 2011 one has the ultra-cheap COE.. a lot of people renewed at that time when PQP was lowest.

 

By right 1st 10 yrs renewed EG DOHC civic's market value is around low $4000/yr for EG9 and mid to high $4000s/yr for EG6. So Aug 2011 ones should be selling for $5-6k, BUT, cars tend to sell more expensively in the last 1-2 yrs of their life.

 

The best time to buy with the view of renewing COE would be those left 3-4yrs.

 

I'm not too sure about the ESI prices, but should be in the $3k/yr region.

 

 

thanks alot...anyone have any past experiences with these COE civics? first hand experience please..

[Albeniz]

What is the difference between ESI and LSI?

Seems that LSI is slightly cheaper. What is the catch?

[Ichibawa]

ESI got Vtec

LSI no Vtec

[Relagsingh]

thanks alot...anyone have any past experiences with these COE civics? first hand experience please..

 

Not much to worry abt. as long dun buy auto.

 

usual niggles for COE cars:

 

1. Valve tappet clearance need adjustment, cheap job. Symptoms are loud ticking sounds during idling and slightly irregular idling

 

2. Look out for the water hoses. Civics have less durable cooling systems in general. check condition of the pipes leading in and out of the radiator.

 

3. Usual, check for any major leaks below the car, ie. oil sump, seals, cylinder head gaskets.

 

4. Check for any major body repair work. If u happen to know any car nut, get them to help u check when viewing.

 

5. Oil level before and after test drive. if can try to 'kui' the vtec during test cuz the system works on oil pressure.

 

Thats all i can think of for now. But nothing major to worry abt. The EG and EK civics are quite reliable.

 

[Zanter]

If you want there is my mechanic friend's ESi selling quite cheap. PM me if keen. Hopefully still avail.

[Ferraricalifornia]

so LSI 1.6L 100bhp

ESI Vtec 1.6L 115bhp

VTi Vtec 1.6L 140bhp

Sir Vtec 1.6L 170bhp??

 

are the figures above correct??

 

that means current car technologies haven't really improved...in fact it slacken probably just to meet emission standards...

 

[Scoobydoo]

ESI/VTI SOHC VTEC - 130bhp

VTI/SIR DOHC VTEC - 160bhp (SIR on paper slightly higher)

SIR II - DOHC VTEC - 170bhp

 

The B-series engines are famous for 100bhp/lit capabilities. Lack of torque a bit of a pain though.

 

I don't think technology has 'not improved' as much as the concern of emissions and cost of production models.

 

Anyway, K-series for the Rs still putting out good figures. Honda engines (except the F1 one)... ichiban

 

 

[Woonyang]

Not much to worry abt. as long dun buy auto.

 

usual niggles for COE cars:

 

1. Valve tappet clearance need adjustment, cheap job. Symptoms are loud ticking sounds during idling and slightly irregular idling

 

2. Look out for the water hoses. Civics have less durable cooling systems in general. check condition of the pipes leading in and out of the radiator.

 

3. Usual, check for any major leaks below the car, ie. oil sump, seals, cylinder head gaskets.

 

4. Check for any major body repair work. If u happen to know any car nut, get them to help u check when viewing.

 

5. Oil level before and after test drive. if can try to 'kui' the vtec during test cuz the system works on oil pressure.

 

Thats all i can think of for now. But nothing major to worry abt. The EG and EK civics are quite reliable.

 

how to compare cold and hot oil levels?

[Ithunk]

ESI/VTI SOHC VTEC - 130bhp

VTI/SIR DOHC VTEC - 160bhp (SIR on paper slightly higher)

SIR II - DOHC VTEC - 170bhp

 

The B-series engines are famous for 100bhp/lit capabilities. Lack of torque a bit of a pain though.

 

I don't think technology has 'not improved' as much as the concern of emissions and cost of production models.

 

Anyway, K-series for the Rs still putting out good figures. Honda engines (except the F1 one)... ichiban

 

yes the figures are correct

[Robinyip]

Not much to worry abt. as long dun buy auto.

 

usual niggles for COE cars:

 

1. Valve tappet clearance need adjustment, cheap job. Symptoms are loud ticking sounds during idling and slightly irregular idling

 

2. Look out for the water hoses. Civics have less durable cooling systems in general. check condition of the pipes leading in and out of the radiator.

 

3. Usual, check for any major leaks below the car, ie. oil sump, seals, cylinder head gaskets.

 

4. Check for any major body repair work. If u happen to know any car nut, get them to help u check when viewing.

 

5. Oil level before and after test drive. if can try to 'kui' the vtec during test cuz the system works on oil pressure.

 

Thats all i can think of for now. But nothing major to worry abt. The EG and EK civics are quite reliable.

 

 

this list looks good..i am looking for one till 08/2011, so i set aside 2k to repair those niggling problems for the next 1 1/2 years, should be sufficient i guess..

[Robinyip]

any bros care to share the fair price to pay for an 1992 civic with coe expirying on 08/2011? COE about 18-19k.