Cheenang Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 The point is, the rules are clear and OPC drivers participate in the scheme knowing the rules. Whether forgetting is second nature or not is not the issue. May be genuine, may not be. But even if it is, why should the consequences of that be shifted away from the driver? The rule does not say that there are exceptions for forgetting. Forget, fingers got chopped off, fainted, handphone got swallowed by the dog, rat chewed through your internet cable, was having a 48-hour orgy, what is to say one reason merits a waiver more than another? It is strict liability, the mentality/reasons behind it occuring is irrelevant. In fact, if I had to rank reasons, then in my personal view, forgetting to purchase the licence ranks really really low in the hierarchy of reasons to 'warrant' a waiver. Actually if you look at most of the messages again, most of the offednders are not looking at a waiver, when such a thing happen, I believe most of us will be happy with a 500 bucks fine. you have to understand the psychology of it, somebody committed an offence, first thing you would do is to find out what is the maximum fine, so as to prepare your self. Of course, all of us will hope for a waiver, who wouldn't? For those who regret buying OPC because of this , why shoud you, its a 17k savings, plus thousands of dollars of road tax. just need to change your buying habit. Remember the time when we need to tear coupon? how many of you missed tearing a coupon? just go back in time and work the same way, dont drive your car if you have not buy the coupon yet. I know I will be doing that from now on. As for waivers, i believe it is possible, but I will not expect LTA to come out and say it out right, but the more we ask for it, the lesser the chance, so just leave it as a case by case basis. And one last thing, did anybody actually use the excuse that his or her dog swallow the handphone? pls enlighten me..... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 i belong to the "honest and surrender" group but only in Jan like bro Doraemarc, LTA actually attend to me to listen and accept the backpay of $20. For my 2nd case, they just shoo me off and slap me with $500 2 months later. i reguarly buy 2-4 e-license monthly and no attempt to cheat the system... though accept the fine without agurement as it's my fault but really i hope they do listen to those who surrendered with say $50 backpay... no one is prefect and deserve a 2nd chance... by the way, since LTA take more than 2 months to process such case, can we be given more time? it seems that most of us only remember on the 3rd day... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangable 5th Gear September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 Let hope LTA start recruiting more officers to check on OPC cheaters. The government should also increase the fines too. This is the right approach to rid of OPC cheaters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugts Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Author Share September 29, 2010 driving opc 3 yrs with coupon system no issue. always tear and go. now got the trap to drive and pay! really drive and pay fine! i hope they will come out the something like automated. start engine and drive more than 500m need to buy e-licence but they send us monthly bill.. ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 Let hope LTA start recruiting more officers to check on OPC cheaters. The government should also increase the fines too. This is the right approach to rid of OPC cheaters cheater or not, only themselves know. it's usual to hear black cursing the red as black felt unbalanced about the discount given "enjoy" by red... but why let this opinion drown the honest? i do not have any problem with the paper previously. tear n go, phyiscal evidence infront of payment which i still keep the used stack till today... in the old days, complains/appeal seem lesser too... bottomline, i will pay for my mistake but habour hope the honest will be lighter, not asking for wavier... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rongshu Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 (edited) Instead of allowing opc users buying license till next day, why not LTA only allow them buying by the end of the day they using the car? People tend to forget buying if the deadline is next day. They will drag till the next day and forget it eventually. If must buy on the same day, there should be less excuse of fogetting. Edited September 29, 2010 by Rongshu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 just revert back to coupons... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack10 Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 Thank You Bro Doramaec.. I feel at least more assured now. Thanks again. Now got to have a file for the receipt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 my 1st time was waived off... cos still in Jan, system still new so they give chance.. after Mar 2010 there is no more waiver. my 2nd time (can consider as 1st time after Mar) they fined $500 without appeal.. appeal also kena turn down.... my 3rd time (2nd after Mar) still pending... heard some bro here say 2nd fine is $2k... nothing been heard yet... i fully agree with you.... i also regret buying OPC.... dat's y now i change to normal plate car to avoid 4th, 5th, 6th......... bro, when is your 3rd time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclebond Neutral Newbie September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 U r right. revert back to coupon system. I never forget for 4 years. Now paperless. @ weeks ago forget. Also waiting for letter. Sigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doraemarc Clutched September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 bro, when is your 3rd time? may..... drive for work also... den very busy with work during dat period.... start work b4 6am, end work after midnite thus forget to buy... hope they would accept my explaination.... alr planning to get boss help write letter in case need to support my case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doraemarc Clutched September 29, 2010 Share September 29, 2010 Thank You Bro Doramaec.. I feel at least more assured now. Thanks again. Now got to have a file for the receipt. good luck!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheenang Neutral Newbie September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 Let hope LTA start recruiting more officers to check on OPC cheaters. The government should also increase the fines too. This is the right approach to rid of OPC cheaters I have seen many drivers going for 1 hour lunch and tear just fifty cents sparking coupon, and when caught, they are alapped with a 20 bucks fine and that is for "deliberate cheating", should we recruit more officers to check on such "Normal" car cheaters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celicar Turbocharged September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 And one last thing, did anybody actually use the excuse that his or her dog swallow the handphone? pls enlighten me..... I was trying to illustrate that there can be many many possible reasons provided to LTA for a not buying a licence. There is nothing for LTA to go on except what the OPC driver says, so what is LTA to believe, when confronted with this whole range of reasons? That's my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 may..... drive for work also... den very busy with work during dat period.... start work b4 6am, end work after midnite thus forget to buy... hope they would accept my explaination.... alr planning to get boss help write letter in case need to support my case May? i think you are safe bro, given now is Sep, it's already 4 months. if you did not pass through any ERP gantry, i think even less chance... from forum, it seems that if caught you should received in 2 months for details of driver on date of offence... mine was 1 month ago, so engrossed in thinking about work as boss stressed more in lift down to carpark that i forget timing and left i think around 6.50pm. then just out my workplace got photo flash at traffic light junction (not red light camera). now thinking back i dun know why i'm not bother by it until now, not sure the flash is LTA officer taking my car or road side contractor taking pic nd did not check time upon flash... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangable 5th Gear September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 cheater or not, only themselves know. it's usual to hear black cursing the red as black felt unbalanced about the discount given "enjoy" by red... but why let this opinion drown the honest? i do not have any problem with the paper previously. tear n go, phyiscal evidence infront of payment which i still keep the used stack till today... in the old days, complains/appeal seem lesser too... bottomline, i will pay for my mistake but habour hope the honest will be lighter, not asking for wavier... say whatever you like, it's always easy to use "This is an honest mistake"... yeah rite... opc drivers = opc cheaters. Plain and simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 say whatever you like, it's always easy to use "This is an honest mistake"... yeah rite... opc drivers = opc cheaters. Plain and simple cheater will not call up to surrender, giving details of offence and offer to pay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWS78 Neutral Newbie September 30, 2010 Share September 30, 2010 (edited) I have seen many drivers going for 1 hour lunch and tear just fifty cents sparking coupon, and when caught, they are alapped with a 20 bucks fine and that is for "deliberate cheating", should we recruit more officers to check on such "Normal" car cheaters? at the rate they're upgrading all carpark to cashcard payment, the white blue aunties will be jobless or maybe they can set up tent to spot us... Edited September 30, 2010 by CWS78 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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