Sabbie Clutched August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower, to get a replacement manpower you need to sack her or him first and the new staff will take time to come and train up, you need all the manpower at the moment but you also know that this staff cmi in the long run, how to solve??? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftRighty 2nd Gear August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 (edited) You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower... You do realise that there's something seriously wrong with that statement, don't you? In fact, the whole post reads like you've had a bad Freudian day. hehehehe Edited August 18, 2011 by LeftRighty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 18, 2011 Author Share August 18, 2011 Don't you think there's something seriously wrong with that statement? hehehehe Yeah, everything is wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_pee Neutral Newbie August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower, to get a replacement manpower you need to sack her or him first and the new staff will take time to come and train up, you need all the manpower at the moment but you also know that this staff cmi in the long run, how to solve??? some company got this tactic of pressuring the unwanted until he own self resign.... maybe transferring him to other department he not specialise in or put more pressure on him.... more and more workloads etc...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 18, 2011 Author Share August 18, 2011 some company got this tactic of pressuring the unwanted until he own self resign.... maybe transferring him to other department he not specialise in or put more pressure on him.... more and more workloads etc...... Yes, I can do that too, the issue is how to get my HQ to give me the extra headcount before this fugger goes....she is fugging keng...always got mc or some urgent issues... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaydenSTI 1st Gear August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 Yes, I can do that too, the issue is how to get my HQ to give me the extra headcount before this fugger goes....she is fugging keng...always got mc or some urgent issues... if there isnt any headcount freeze order coming out from the HQ, I dun see why a manager cant justify an extra headcount..... thousand of reasons/ways to do that. by the way, there is always a manpower reshuffle option to "redefine" job scope. "insubordination" is the word you can use following that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 18, 2011 Author Share August 18, 2011 if there isnt any headcount freeze order coming out from the HQ, I dun see why a manager cant justify an extra headcount..... thousand of reasons/ways to do that. by the way, there is always a manpower reshuffle option to "redefine" job scope. "insubordination" is the word you can use following that. The problem is that many people quit, so manpower will be allocated to those departments where there is resignation first, I don't wan to be stupid get rid of her and don't have people to run for me for one or two months.....and got partial headcount freeeze leow....sigh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaydenSTI 1st Gear August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 The problem is that many people quit, so manpower will be allocated to those departments where there is resignation first, I don't wan to be stupid get rid of her and don't have people to run for me for one or two months.....and got partial headcount freeeze leow....sigh... would rather have a tough time for 2 months rather than constant suffer for the next 2 years. if common general consensus between boss and subordinates (except the problematic one) is made, the 2 months would pass in a blink of eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 18, 2011 Author Share August 18, 2011 would rather have a tough time for 2 months rather than constant suffer for the next 2 years. if common general consensus between boss and subordinates (except the problematic one) is made, the 2 months would pass in a blink of eye. Yup, you are right, but no guarantee the new person would be better, and things at so critical that I cannot afford anymore drop in performance, and my cb boss only know how to fug people and not solve the problem....my boss's boss is much better but i dun wan to cut ranks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendut 2nd Gear August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower, to get a replacement manpower you need to sack her or him first and the new staff will take time to come and train up, you need all the manpower at the moment but you also know that this staff cmi in the long run, how to solve??? Poor you. Tsk tsk. It appears you are managing your department the wrong way. If your solution points to just replacing manpower, anybody can be a manager. You have not mentioned why that he/she is a problem. Keng and taking mc is not the problem, just the manifestation of an underlying problem. Most manpower issues emanate from the manager themselves. Most are technically incompetent and unable to guide their own subordinates when they encounter problems. The other thing about bad managers are poor communications. The fact that you need him/her and cannot operate with new hire already shows a fact that this employee has value if you cannot cover his duties in their absence. Its also a sign that he is already very good and long in his/her current position. But why was he/she doing well then? Was that under another manager? Look at how you manage instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jchuacl Clutched August 18, 2011 Share August 18, 2011 - Get a temp hire to slowly take over the work, should be easy for this. - Slowly strip him/her for tasks assigned to him/her - Send warning letters and cc HR and your boss each time the person violates HR code of conduct. - One the temp hire gets the hang of it, issue termination letter on the spot. - Convert the temp hire as the replacement. You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower, to get a replacement manpower you need to sack her or him first and the new staff will take time to come and train up, you need all the manpower at the moment but you also know that this staff cmi in the long run, how to solve??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_prince Supersonic August 19, 2011 Share August 19, 2011 U considered maybe contribute by working more and surf less Mcf ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 19, 2011 Author Share August 19, 2011 Poor you. Tsk tsk. It appears you are managing your department the wrong way. If your solution points to just replacing manpower, anybody can be a manager. You have not mentioned why that he/she is a problem. Keng and taking mc is not the problem, just the manifestation of an underlying problem. Most manpower issues emanate from the manager themselves. Most are technically incompetent and unable to guide their own subordinates when they encounter problems. The other thing about bad managers are poor communications. The fact that you need him/her and cannot operate with new hire already shows a fact that this employee has value if you cannot cover his duties in their absence. Its also a sign that he is already very good and long in his/her current position. But why was he/she doing well then? Was that under another manager? Look at how you manage instead. She was doing worse in the other department before she tranferred over to me, I guided and motivated her and tried to be understanding towards her, however, give and inch and she takes a yard. Well you are right, if these people cannot even manage their lives, how do they manage work, I try to be understanding and guide them along, many I guided has gone on to better things, many also failed....come to think of it since I am doing alot of her work for her, I might as well get rid of her and do it myself....but I still thank you for your feedback so any suggestions how to improve as a manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 19, 2011 Author Share August 19, 2011 U considered maybe contribute by working more and surf less Mcf ? I was on MC for many days yet I still go to work, this is the dedication I put Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear August 19, 2011 Share August 19, 2011 You got a fu(ked up staff you want to sack but you need the manpower, to get a replacement manpower you need to sack her or him first and the new staff will take time to come and train up, you need all the manpower at the moment but you also know that this staff cmi in the long run, how to solve??? Can consider to step aside for more competent people to manage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbie Clutched August 19, 2011 Author Share August 19, 2011 Can consider to step aside for more competent people to manage? Ok, send your resume in to my boss.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaydenSTI 1st Gear August 19, 2011 Share August 19, 2011 Poor you. Tsk tsk. It appears you are managing your department the wrong way. If your solution points to just replacing manpower, anybody can be a manager. You have not mentioned why that he/she is a problem. Keng and taking mc is not the problem, just the manifestation of an underlying problem. Most manpower issues emanate from the manager themselves. Most are technically incompetent and unable to guide their own subordinates when they encounter problems. The other thing about bad managers are poor communications. The fact that you need him/her and cannot operate with new hire already shows a fact that this employee has value if you cannot cover his duties in their absence. Its also a sign that he is already very good and long in his/her current position. But why was he/she doing well then? Was that under another manager? Look at how you manage instead. I had to agree with you that manpower issues mostly originated through bad manager. However, there are one kind of employee which extremely difficult to dealt with, they are call the lao jiao. one of my surbodinate (mind you, 30 year long service award price taker) used to be my supervisor in my early days here, well he can do the job without supervision at all, just that now he dam chao keng now. With all respect to his loyalty in the company, he is now concentrated at recurring voluminous work which he had been doing for the past 30 years. Usually this kind of ppl get the ultimate blessing from the big boss (which happened to come from the same era). A good manager will not always in absolute control in situation. Nobody is indispensable, all skills are able to pickup by just anyone, just to what level they are capable of. Yes, such person might have so call value in his presence, but with all the cons that come in the same package, many of a time these values did not overcome the destructive action. Most of the time, a good manager already had the plan in mind when shyt happened, just need some reinforcement to strengthen the idea. perhaps TS already had one, who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged August 19, 2011 Share August 19, 2011 Stop surfing and bs"ing" on your money and girls and do more work lah ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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