Jolie888 Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 but these guys are not taking jobs from the bulk of Sporeans, according to yahoo sg. the majority is what matters most. not that the rest don't matter. but we focus on the majority, as in every democracy. Not necessarily when we apply the 80:20 rule. The lower-rung 'talents' can be disposed of much more easily, when the administration realizes that we do not need that layer to 'run' SG anymore. But right now, we need them. There just ain't enough skilled SGean professionals, with equivalent experience, in nursing, radiology, various health sciences, IT, computer engineering, bio-tech, bio-sciences, cancer research, nano tech ... even petrochem industry technicians, artisans etc. We need to produce more children of our own, give them the best in education, to replace these foreign professionals. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_a_car Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 And you believe in every and any published stats? Who compiled it? Reputable organization or not? What was the sample size? What is the ANOVA distribution? What is the chi-square skew? So please ingest stats with caution and try not to regurgitate them spuriously! Yahoo! Newsroom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 how? by voting for the PAP? look around you! can't you see that everything is already turning into s--t? macdonalds used to champion hiring the elderly and the physically disabled what has happened to that? they couldn't match the cheap labour KFC, long john, burger king are getting with FT if you are 60 or 70 and retrenched now, can you walk into macdonalds and be assured that they will do their best to employ you for a meager $3 an hour? yes the government isn't there to give you a life and provide a living for you, but they are not supposed to make the situation worst! i've been reading your postings and i don't see any reason why i should vote for the PAP. i've already posted i want to believe but i need a reason to do so! frankly , im not surprised 888 can't see cos if there are supporters of Saddam, Gaddafi, surely there'll be those who can't see these problems. Despite articles from reputable sources like Tommy Koh, 888 still can't see. that's life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 (edited) as long as they are in parliament, we all should be afraid and very concerned. Vote of no confidence from the 60.1% power corrupts, absolute powers corrupt absolutely...judging by what you written here and what you have been advocating so far, it appears that you are all for a one sided parliament with the incumbent in absolute full control and unchallenged. that is most dangerous and unwise. history have consistently shown that a political party in full dominance will slip into decadence after years of being left unchecked and unchallenged. there has never been an exception to this. as it is, the signs are there that the decadence has already start to seep in since several yrs back...I am surprised you do not detect any signs of decadence at all. or should I say most staunch pap supporters are like that... Edited May 8, 2012 by Damienic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 y afraid of oppo in parliament? thats a healthy democracy isnt it? A democratic govt won't, but we the people will. We have such high standards - should not accept mediocrity in opposition! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expertz 1st Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 it would be near impossible for the oppo to clinch 60% due to the GRC system. as for mediocre, the current lot are mediocre judging by the mess ups of recent years. so it's probably not a bad idea to introduce some mediocre competition. they can only get better. the objective in choosing oppo is not to form a new govt. but to create a more competitive political setting where checks and balances take place. what has the opposition done for you to judge that they are mediocre? what law or change did they pass thru parliament that was later found to lack judgement? which opposition party has the political experience for you to judge upon? unless you are judging from a different history textbook, i've never lived in a singapore which has its policies dictated enough by an opposition party so how can you call the opposition parties mediocre when they have yet to prove themselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_a_car Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 A democratic govt won't, but we the people will. We have such high standards - should not accept mediocrity in opposition! You going to tell me TPL is the personification of an intellectual? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 Yahoo! Newsroom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 A democratic govt won't, but we the people will. We have such high standards - should not accept mediocrity in opposition! true, same goes for the ruling party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expertz 1st Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 A democratic govt won't, but we the people will. We have such high standards - should not accept mediocrity in opposition! i know of a leader who is a womanizer, has been involved with underaged prostitutes and his time in power has always been with controversy. the list of things he's been accused of can fill up an entire wiki page alone i'm pretty sure by your book he is considered extremely mediocre yet he is the longest serving president of his country can you guess who is he? he's mr silvio berlusconni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 how? by voting for the PAP? look around you! can't you see that everything is already turning into s--t? that's because we are slowly sucked into the whirlpool of globalization. It's got nothing to do with the govt's fault. 60.1% think that they are doing a good job - and are still trying to improve on many things. Can you do better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 at the end of this year just how many forumers will 1. get a pay cut 2. loss his job the future looks bleak Same sentiments...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 power corrupts, absolute powers corrupt absolutely...judging by what you written here and what you have been advocating so far, it appears that you are all for a one sided parliament with the incumbent in absolute full control and unchallenged. that is most dangerous and unwise. history have consistently shown that a political party in full dominance will slip into decadence after years of being left unchecked and unchallenged. there has never been an exception to this. as it is, the signs are there that the decadence has already start to seep in since several yrs back...I am surprised you do not detect any signs of decadence at all. or should I say most staunch pap supporters are like that... i like that, the historical aspect. we got the historical, political, economic, social, financial aspect to smash his argument into pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 You going to tell me TPL is the personification of an intellectual? maybe she is, compared to you maybe? That's why she's there and you here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expertz 1st Gear May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 that's because we are slowly sucked into the whirlpool of globalization. It's got nothing to do with the govt's fault. 60.1% think that they are doing a good job - and are still trying to improve on many things. Can you do better? you talk like as if globalization is a bad thing our govt has even said that we are playing as a global economy now if you think that PAP will shield you from globalization then you are wrong to every extent, they are mas importing FT to graciously accept globalization with open arms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_a_car Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 that's because we are slowly sucked into the whirlpool of globalization. It's got nothing to do with the govt's fault. 60.1% think that they are doing a good job - and are still trying to improve on many things. Can you do better? so what is the point of giving PAP uninterrupted power? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 i'm beginning to believe in your last line as well i've always told my friends, PAP sees a problem say, there is an itch on your hand so they will come up with a solution, to scratch the itch and they'll scratch too much until blood comes out then they'll question themselves, why now blood is spilling out? must be a new problem i'm starting to see that FT was a solution to a real problem, to address shortage of manpower they saw that FT is good so they brought more in, then they realized that FT would lower labour costs so companies benefit and PAP now want a piece of the pie... they can increase rental costs which will increase govt revenue i'm still waiting for a pro-PAP member, no need to be credible but with a sound argument for me to see the other side of the story. until then, i'm going to be pro-opposition To maintain a highly competitive environment, companies must be able to produce good results. Bosses must be able to pay high taxes yet remain happy. In a bid to achieve all that, something must give. Wages must remain low, productivity must keep increasing. That's the carrot the government must dangle so that companies will see Singapore as "competitive" enough for them to come and do business. At the end of the day, citizens must sacrifice since Singapore has no natural resources to fall back on. The government will never have a solution to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched May 8, 2012 Share May 8, 2012 frankly , im not surprised 888 can't see cos if there are supporters of Saddam, Gaddafi, surely there'll be those who can't see these problems. Despite articles from reputable sources like Tommy Koh, 888 still can't see. that's life. And there are blind supporters of SG opposition parties too! Despite their mediocrity! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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