New SMRT CEO

[Vblaster_w211]

Ya .. this is the 3G SAF whereby a NSF was robbed of his rifle by a Screwdriver wielding Bangala

Maybe thats your SAF, certainly not my.

 

If that Bangra attempted that stunt during my time, i am pretty sure a coconut would be shoved up his but-hole

 

We cannot expect all 300K of our fighting force to be the same elite status. For every one case, there are many other instances when our soldiers stood up to the tests. Let's be fair in our comments.

 

The same applies for armchair warriors who lightly put aside what our soldiers have done and are still doing in the frontlines. We should also just let the new team prove their worth in SMRT. Complaining even before they have a chance to perform is really, from what I see, armchair critics. Step up and contribute. If not, let's give the benefit of doubt to those who have stepped up and give them time to show their worth.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Vblaster_w211

[Nlatio]

Ya .. this is the 3G SAF whereby a NSF was robbed of his rifle by a Screwdriver wielding Bangala

Maybe thats your SAF, certainly not my.

 

If that Bangra attempted that stunt during my time, i am pretty sure a coconut would be shoved up his but-hole

 

 

alamak just one case the whole S the A the F kena comdemn.... ai dio...... relac lar... I am sure if the bagala try that stunt again..... some dogs will be happy to have him as dinner... .... but before that, gotta get him to Bro Radx to have the package sign.... at least the bone can be taken care of...

[Antlau]

Would you allow the top brain surgeon in Singapore to do heart bypass for your love ones? I mean the brain surgeon is also a brilliant doctor and is smart and has achievements or would you have a heart specialist? If you say no to the brain surgeon, would it not be strange if someone lecture you on looking down on the brain surgeon's achievements?

 

well... not to rebuke your views, so what is the job of a CEO in a big corporation like SMRT, or similar big corporations? he must know how to drive and repair the train, survey the tracks for faults, do the ticketing for the passengers etc? A CEO is different from that of a "specialist"... A CEO has to be a strategist, with management skills, listener, with good brains, and with good heart for his staff and his clients, of course knowledge in the relevant areas such as mechanical engineering or transportation science will be an advantage....

[Greyminswift]

Then how come desmond didnt follow MP chan path?!

 

Not all who are approached would want to make the necessary sacrifices such as loss of family privacy. You see the local internet scene - even daughters of ministers become fodder for gossip - like which one prettier etc. If his kids are still young, maybe he and the wife may not want to subject the kids to such loss of family privacy, not to mention time spend with the kids if he has to attend MPS, or attend other duties required of a MP.

 

[2012]

well... not to rebuke your views, so what is the job of a CEO in a big corporation like SMRT, or similar big corporations? he must know how to drive and repair the train, survey the tracks for faults, do the ticketing for the passengers etc? A CEO is different from that of a "specialist"... A CEO has to be a strategist, with management skills, listener, with good brains, and with good heart for his staff and his clients, of course knowledge in the relevant areas such as mechanical engineering or transportation science will be an advantage....

Small suggestion:

CEO takes the train unannounced to feel n see what passengers go thru, best done during peak hours.

[Antlau]

In addition, a lot of people, including CEOs and whatever, forget about the reputation (or rather the need not to tarnish the reputation) of the company / establishment, when they set about achieving their KPIs...

[CKP]

Quite sad to note many talk down on our SAF's capabilities, while the freigners that have benefitted from our SAF's help have nothing but praise for our Armed Forces.

....

It is fact when Katrina struck, our airboys were, again, the first foreign aid to arrive.

....

This is the 3G SAF, our SAF.

 

 

There are several omitted issues with many of your facts in your list that obviously overplayed SAF's capabilities

 

For example in Katrina,

 

1. Close proximity plays a very significant part to being the first to arrive.

 

For example, RSAF already has existing heavy air lift capabilities in very close proximity to the disaster area.

On 1 September, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) sent three CH-47 Chinook helicopters to Louisiana to assist in relief operations. These three aircraft, which were based in the Peace Prairie attachment in Grand Prairie, Texas, arrived in Fort Polk, Louisiana in the afternoon of 1 September to aid rescue operations mainly in resupply and airlifting missions.Thirty eight RSAF personnel, comprising pilots, aircrew and technicians were also deployed. The Singapore team worked with the Texas Army National Guard in the relief efforts.

 

 

2. Singapore already has existing agreements and prior security clearance approved for deployment and operation of military assets in the area.

 

Compare this to Russia example where there was a significant delay from time of offer of help to approval.

"Russia: Was one of the first countries to offer assistance. Up to four jets were placed on standby at the Ramenskoye Airport near Moscow as early as August 30, including heavy Ilyushin Il-76-TDs with special evacuation equipment, medical equipment, a water-cleansing system, a BK-117 rescue helicopter and two special cars; and a passenger IL-62, which brought 10 coordinators and 50 rescuers, as well as 6 tons of drinking water. On September 6, the Bush administration gave its approval"

 

 

3. Another important omitted information is that significant portion of the international response was requested by the USA only AFTER Septmeber 1st.

 

For example, "September 4, 2005, the United States officially asked the European Union for emergency help."

 

 

4. For a host of reasons, from no existing agreements to local and state labour union interests,

there was a significant rate of initial rejection of international offers of help.

 

For examples,

"Concrete help was refused by the US government initially, however on September 2, Condoleezza Rice said that the US authorities would assess the situation and contact French authorities accordingly. On September 4, US authorities formally requested French assistance."

"The Finn Rescue Force

Edited August 15, 2012 by CKP

[Royho1979]

well... not to rebuke your views, so what is the job of a CEO in a big corporation like SMRT, or similar big corporations? he must know how to drive and repair the train, survey the tracks for faults, do the ticketing for the passengers etc? A CEO is different from that of a "specialist"... A CEO has to be a strategist, with management skills, listener, with good brains, and with good heart for his staff and his clients, of course knowledge in the relevant areas such as mechanical engineering or transportation science will be an advantage....

 

I did not ask for the CEO to know the details of operations. A CEO of SMRT is a head of a commercial transport company that is focused on safety and profits, and a person with ZERO exp with public transport company and has zero exp in ANY organization that is focus on the bottomline CANNOT possibly be the best choice for CEO.

 

The qualities you quoted are bare minimum requirements and there are other qualities required. U noted that knowledge in relevant area is important, but you do know Desmond has near to zero knowledge right? You cant use his 20 year old degree bcos that gave him outdated knowledge and what was taught is probably forgotten (I have a Mech Engin degree and I can remember any of the technical modules now). Would you trust a Doc or lawyer who has not practiced for 20 years?

 

If thats all is needed to be CEOs, the Goldman Sachs, Emirates, Samsung and Nokias would be falling over themselves to have them in their organizations as CEO right?

Edited August 15, 2012 by Royho1979

[Vyap]

for a shareholder like me, it is not a fu(king joke , it is a scary one......

 

 

[whip] that's the way in sg

[Vyap]

for a shareholder like me, it is not a fu(king joke , it is a scary one......

 

 

[whip] that's the way in sg

[Vblaster_w211]

There are several omitted issues with many of your facts in your list that obviously overplayed SAF's capabilities

 

For example in Katrina,

 

1. Close proximity plays a very significant part to being the first to arrive.

 

For example, RSAF already has existing heavy air lift capabilities in very close proximity to the disaster area.

On 1 September, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) sent three CH-47 Chinook helicopters to Louisiana to assist in relief operations. These three aircraft, which were based in the Peace Prairie attachment in Grand Prairie, Texas, arrived in Fort Polk, Louisiana in the afternoon of 1 September to aid rescue operations mainly in resupply and airlifting missions.Thirty eight RSAF personnel, comprising pilots, aircrew and technicians were also deployed. The Singapore team worked with the Texas Army National Guard in the relief efforts.

 

 

2. Singapore already has existing agreements and prior security clearance approved for deployment and operation of military assets in the area.

 

Compare this to Russia example where there was a significant delay from time of offer of help to approval.

"Russia: Was one of the first countries to offer assistance. Up to four jets were placed on standby at the Ramenskoye Airport near Moscow as early as August 30, including heavy Ilyushin Il-76-TDs with special evacuation equipment, medical equipment, a water-cleansing system, a BK-117 rescue helicopter and two special cars; and a passenger IL-62, which brought 10 coordinators and 50 rescuers, as well as 6 tons of drinking water. On September 6, the Bush administration gave its approval"

 

 

3. Another important omitted information is that significant portion of the international response was requested by the USA only AFTER Septmeber 1st.

 

For example, "September 4, 2005, the United States officially asked the European Union for emergency help."

 

 

4. For a host of reasons, from no existing agreements to local and state labour union interests,

there was a significant rate of initial rejection of international offers of help.

 

For examples,

"Concrete help was refused by the US government initially, however on September 2, Condoleezza Rice said that the US authorities would assess the situation and contact French authorities accordingly. On September 4, US authorities formally requested French assistance."

"The Finn Rescue Force

Edited August 15, 2012 by Vblaster_w211

[Nlatio]

There are several omitted issues with many of your facts in your list that obviously overplayed SAF's capabilities

 

Your non Katrina examples have the same issues as well but again they are overplayed.

 

 

Your post veri long, cut short to reply. ..

 

Cannot say like that. Other country more capable does not meant we not capable what.

 

Near so what. If beh kan next door also cannot do sh*t tohelp others .

 

Kudos to our guys for giving a lending hand.

 

Capable or not I won't argue, but am damn proud of our guys for helping out and contribute to the rescue efforts. Important is they save valuable life.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Nlatio

[CKP]

Your point being? OK SAF is no good and not appreciated. OK, got your point. Thanks. Move on. Next.

 

Some of us have been there, done that. It takes capability to tuen a training ex to an operations. It demonstrates capability, quick decision to turnaround and to commit to a mission outcome with unplanned for circumstances and resources.

 

I'm plenty amused by the comments here. Anyway, this will be my last post on this subject, and I leave with a sad heart the state of cynism in Mycarforum and the willingness to put down the efforts and sweat of our soldiers when foreigners that we have helped are more than grateful.

 

We say we don't support FT sportswomen and men because they're FTs. I'll add the same group also enjoys putting down the appreciated efforts that demonstrated our SAF's capability just because, as I suspect, it is representative of the "Government".

 

These soldiers are our people who put their lives at risks. Appreciate that.

 

Sad...

 

 

I only stated the reasons why the examples you listed to justify SAF's deployment capabilities as the "best" in the world,

which you stressed as "first foreign help in the world to arrive during katrina" is not appropriate and omits other key reasons.

 

Somemore, there is a difference between "good" and the "best" in capablities.

 

 

"These soldiers are our people who put their lives at risks. Appreciate that."

 

You are talking about human sacrifice, but I was talking about how fast international help arrives in US during Katrina.

 

The reasons I listed earlier demonstrates that arrival at scene to help has little to no relevance to the "willingess to put your life at risk".

 

Most of the time spent is on political and bureacratic deliberations, and existing geopolitical security arrangements.

 

The above is by far the most important reasons that determine how fast international help arrives.

 

 

I think most people here are wise enough not to mix up the these two different topics.

 

Edited August 15, 2012 by CKP

[CKP]

Your post veri long, cut short to reply. ..

 

Cannot say like that. Other country more capable does not meant we not capable what.

 

Near so what. If beh kan next door also cannot do sh*t tohelp others .

 

Kudos to our guys for giving a lending hand.

 

Capable or not I won't argue, but am damn proud of our guys for helping out and contribute to the rescue efforts. Important is they save valuable life.

 

 

Like I said, argument fallacy of "Excluded Middle, False Dichotomy, Faulty Dilemma, Bifurcation":

 

Assuming there are only two alternatives when in fact there are more.

 

 

For example, EITHER SAF is the first to arrive (most capable, capable)

 

OR that SAF cannot arrive or is the last to arrive (not capable, least capable, incapable).

 

 

There are other alternatives like: "SAF may not be the first to arrive, but SAF still arrived quickly." (still capable, good not the best, not number 1)

 

 

 

[Porker]

Good post in response to the dude who is obviously employed by SAF

[CKP]

Good post in response to the dude who is obviously employed by SAF

 

His employer is not important to me.

 

Maybe the confusion arose from the word "overplay".

"Overplays" means "exaggerate" from good to the best,

or from below average to the poorest.

 

To him, "overplay" meant "from poor to good"

which partially explained his reactions.

 

 

 

Off topic, I hope to see more videos of you occupied

corrupting the minds of innocent kindergarten students with your gay agenda.

 

 

 

 

 

[Comnao]

Good post in response to the dude who is obviously employed by SAF

 

its not the obviously employed part that is irks

its the "my hero is the best; and no one else comes close" POV that gets to people

 

i may be employed or have vested interest in a particular company but there is no need to be so overly enthusiastic like a over-joyed dog that had not seen its master for 1 whole working day

 

at least Throttle did not even though, technically as a shareholder, the CEO Desmond actually "leeporks" to him

 

BTW... CKP ... also

i share the same sentiment

[Porker]

My name is Porker. Not Masaki Sumitani